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How would you setup the page file on this system?

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Phenom II x4 B50 @3.2Ghz
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3x HDD All 7,200rpm
WD 640 GB Black 64MB - The Fastest
WD 500 GB Caviar Blue 16MB - 2nd Fastest
Seagate 400GB 16MB - (OLD and so so slow :laugh:)


It's a crappy temporary system (my gfx card is so bottlenecked :laugh:) I am using it to tide me over until I can get the full funds for my 2011 socket build. With only 4GB of RAM and these drives available I'm looking for your knowledgable input on the best,optimal page file config I can use these drives in with regards gaming needs.

Things to note

I want some form of storage on one of them
I am using a 2GB Vram GFX Card with only 4GB System Ram
All of my games are either Steam (the majority) or Origin (BF3 and FIFA 12)

Any help greatly appreciated as always :)
 

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I'd just put a 4GB page file on the fastest Non-OS drive.
 

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I'd just put a 4GB page file on the fastest Non-OS drive.
So just a fixed 4096-4096 on the fastest non-os drive. Is it better to do that straight away after a fresh install of the OS?

EDIT - Here's what I'm thinking

640GB Black - Windows/Steam/Origin
500GB Cav Blue - 4096-4096 Page File/Storage
400GB Seagate - Pictures/Videos/Documents/Downloads
 
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So just a fixed 4096-4096 on the fastest non-os drive. Is it better to do that straight away after a fresh install of the OS?
It doesn't really matter.
I always leave a little page file on the C drive too, as I remember an app or two had problems with no page file on the C drive.
 

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Good to know, so perhaps leave a 200mb one on the C drive then.
I personally leave it turned off unless I need it on. I don't run a whole lot of applications that need a page file. Plus with 16gb of ram it's not really necessary either. Honestly, if you're going to start thrashing, it's time for an upgrading because swapping memory from the hard drive is just straight up slow.
 

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I personally leave it turned off unless I need it on. I don't run a whole lot of applications that need a page file. Plus with 16gb of ram it's not really necessary either. Honestly, if you're going to start thrashing, it's time for an upgrading because swapping memory from the hard drive is just straight up slow.
Read the first post, I will be getting a new system (similar to yours actually) within the next couple of months. This is purely temporary and just wanted to make sure I had it as optimal as I can for that time without having to worry. I also didn't know whether having a 2GB vid card with a 4GB System would cause any issues. I look foorward to having 16GB Ram :D
 
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Read the first post, I will be getting a new system (similar to yours actually) within the next couple of months. This is purely temporary and just wanted to make sure I had it as optimal as I can for that time without having to worry. I also didn't know whether having a 2GB vid card with a 4GB System would cause any issues. I look foorward to having 16GB Ram :D
It's nice. Are you going with a 3820?
 
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The more "standard" the page file the better. I'd do c drive and wouldn't go under 4096. I don't know why messing with this breaks so many programs that shouldn't need it or don't even seem to use it, but it does.
 

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Oh no Lan, why did you have to chip in :) I'll try my luck with the setup I posted a few posts ago and will post back if I have any issues in the next couple of months :)

@Aquinus - Yeh I think that's the chip I'll be going for. How are you finding the motherboard and what about temps as I have read it's quite a toasty platform when overclocked?
 

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General rule of thumb is 1.5 times the amount of RAM isn't it? So that would be 6gb?
 
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I set 256-256 or 512-512 on C: drive over the last 5 years and never had any issues.

Any program that NEEDS a pagefile now tends to make its own swap/scratch/temp file. Unless you have a habit of running old programs it wont cause any issues whatsoever.

Some games might go past the 4GB of RAM you have. A second PF as mentioned already on a nonOS HDD will help with that. It really depends on the game. (The only one I saw in recent memory was civilization 5)

Windows will tell you if you need to make your PF bigger, and I have not had any programs crash because of too small a PF.
 

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@Aquinus - Yeh I think that's the chip I'll be going for. How are you finding the motherboard and what about temps as I have read it's quite a toasty platform when overclocked?
It's really not that bad, I really like the motherboard but it costs a pretty penny. I have a Zalman CNPS 9900MAX-B and I don't go over 72*C at 1.41v and 1.46v gets pretty close to 80*C. It doesn't idle higher than my Phenom II 940 which is a plus too. Keep in mind that the boys at Guru3D were able to do a 4.3ghz overclock without even touching the voltage, so it's really not that bad (stock at 1.35v iirc.) At stock I barely hit 55*C.
 

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I meant to ask does the option -

"Turn off windows write-cache buffer flushing on this device"

show any tangible benefits to hard drives performance at all?
It could decrease latency, but unless your rig is on a UPS, if you lose power during a write you could corrupt data on your drive.