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HP Labs Proves Existence of New Basic Element for Electronic Circuits - Memristor

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HP today announced that researchers from HP Labs, the company’s central research facility, have proven the existence of what had previously been only theorized as the fourth fundamental circuit element in electrical engineering. This scientific advancement could make it possible to develop computer systems that have memories that do not forget, do not need to be booted up, consume far less power and associate information in a manner similar to that of the human brain.


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This is quite interesting. It could really help with boot times, and current DRAM problems of loss of data when unpowered. With the memristor though, would they still need to refresh?

A quote from Fudzilla (http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7118&Itemid=1):

Williams compared memristor properties to water flowing through a garden hose. In a regular circuit, water flows from more than one direction. But in a memory resistor, the hose “remembers” which direction the water/current is flowing from, and it expands in that direction to improve the flow. Likewise, if water or current flows from the other direction, the hose/current shrinks from that direction. According to Williams, "It remembers both the direction and the amount of charge that flows through it. ...That is the memory.”
Quite a good comparasin, and it makes sense how it could be used effectively. :D
 

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It could really help with boot times, and current DRAM problems of loss of data when unpowered.
Its not so much that it would just help with boot up times- it would do away with the process altogether. Your PC would just come back on to the exact same state it was at before your pressed "shutdown". Awesome.

I dare say you could "flush" it if the data had become corrupted somehow.
 
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I wonder how a viral code could manipulate these new transistors with memory. Imagine a virus getting onto one and secretly injecting its code into virtually everything that goes through it.
 
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This could be a big step towards developing true AI.
 
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Somebody in HP's marketing department is losing their mind right now...

"We called it WHAT!?!?" (Head explodes)
 

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this is very interesting... i agree with magibeg although im not sure if that would actually be possible but if it was then we would prob need to replace allot of hardware...at anyrate this is looks like a big leap in technology.
 
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lol, didn't know that HP had a research team, but good job
 

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now that i think about this more the word "skynet" rings a bell....
 
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Ok looking at the small picture I see something amazing that can be done with games with this. We all have our own style of play. Some aggressive and some conservative. This never really changes because the "AI" in games are pretty much all the same. In the end they are all pretty predictable. Especially FPS.

Now let say our hardware in the near future uses this new memristor to also track your style of play in every game. After a while it will be able to predict your next move just from your habit or "style". This would allow the game to run different scripts to cater to your particular style of play. No more mindless drones following you into dark hallways. No more sitting back and sniping everyone in the level and walking to the exit. Hell even bunny hopping would be brought to an end. I know this is small thinking but man no game would ever play or be the same......in theory.
 

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magibeg has a point..I mean, if we're using this for RAM technology, does anyone remember that program that reads your ram to find your login details? physical attacks would become nigh unstoppable, the RAM would never fully lose the data, even if turned off..
 

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So if we get a bad set of this memory could we say it has brain damage? Sorry guys I couldnt stop myself. I do think this is a huge step and almost scarry thinking of actual AI...
 
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Ok looking at the small picture I see something amazing that can be done with games with this. We all have our own style of play. Some aggressive and some conservative. This never really changes because the "AI" in games are pretty much all the same. In the end they are all pretty predictable. Especially FPS.

Now let say our hardware in the near future uses this new memristor to also track your style of play in every game. After a while it will be able to predict your next move just from your habit or "style". This would allow the game to run different scripts to cater to your particular style of play. No more mindless drones following you into dark hallways. No more sitting back and sniping everyone in the level and walking to the exit. Hell even bunny hopping would be brought to an end. I know this is small thinking but man no game would ever play or be the same......in theory.
Speaking of games and graphics...with memory of this type, coupled with multiple cored cpu's and gpu's...maybe we (the regular joes) can make the jump to Ray-Tracing and finally leave Rasterisation behind. :)
 
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Speaking of games and graphics...with memory of this type, coupled with multiple cored cpu's and gpu's...maybe we (the regular joes) can make the jump to Ray-Tracing and finally leave Rasterisation behind. :)
Who knows! Maybe we could finnaly run Crysis at its full settings too. :shadedshu
 
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We all know that A.I will be developed, if its not already developed yet maintained for now.
I think we should strive to reach the ' Skynet ' stage of technology, having in mind ofcourse the outcome of the Terminator movies. We are smarter and more strategic, for now . . .

Well done HP, keep up the research. This is a major breakthru in computer science.
 
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Here's an example of ray tracing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLte5f34ya8 The power needed seems a bit much..and a bit complex...but then again this guy is creating the image...for those of us that just want to enjoy it for gaming, I think the configeration would be alot simpler and we could and should be able to "squeeze" everything into one PC. Considering that most "gaming" rigs are more powerful than a PS3, it's very possible...I could be wrong, but I don't think so...:D Memory such as this could literally blow the doors off of graphics as we see them today...moving photographs anyone?
 
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lol, didn't know that HP had a research team, but good job
Huh?!? :twitch: Where have you been for the past decade? Besides IBM, HP operates one of the largest and most well-respected labs in the world. They conduct countless experiments every day and file over a thousand patent applications each year (many of them cover entirely different fields).
 
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the memristor was the fourth fundamental circuit element, along with the resistor, capacitor and inductor
So fundamental that they couldn't find a UNIQUE name for it? Dreadful. :ohwell:

#1, I think the quote should be "...PASSIVE circuit element", otherwise there are things like transistors, and their derivatives, that would make that, not 4, but 5.. (or more).

#2, isnt a diode a passive circuit element? So the "memristor" is the 5th. Perhaps the poor scientist is suffering a bit of memristorance, and forgot about the diode! :roll:
 
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Lol, I started thinking, uhoh, here comes AI, all the disaster movies could become reality!!! lol. I robot, Terminator, The Matrix ...

But then again, Artificial Intelligence surely depends on something to think for itself and adapt on its own?

All this memristor does is theoritcally provide a log with in it. Then all that happens when a program uses it is make decisions based on that log, and those descisions will have still been based on whatever the programmer has written.

If I have interpretted this correctly, surely there is going to be a limit on how much data the memsistor can store. Infinite is impossible, (mind you theoritcally so is space, lol!)

I would have thought that it maybe an advancement but I think it has huge potential for security flaws. Viruses and the like could hack into the memsistor and read its contents, imagine what could be on there!!!

At least with the way things are now, if worse comes to worse, you yank the power wipe the hdd and they are gone. (unless you got a bios virus :( )

To a certain extent I can't actually imagine what they would be good for,

The post about games learning from your style could quite easily be done onto HDD's into a universal folder which all games could use.

The thing is with electronics, silicon chips, etc. They are all of fixed size, once the hdd is full its full, when you have used all ur ram thats it. The CPU can only do a certain amount of calculations per second (even OC'd they all have a limit eventually).

Now take the "intelligent" brain (of any being). It never runs out of "storage" space, if you keep using your brain and you get better at stuff (increase your calculations per second), or the amount of things you can do at the same time the, a computer cant do this, thats why I cant see true AI ever working on the electronics we've got now.

I think the only possible way of AI even being a remote possibility is when they get to grips with Biochips...
 
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Dude, I want this so bad. I am tired of the same old crap we are getting today, I'm ready for some change, I'm ready for Advancement!!
 

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Lets just hope this doesnt give computers a mind of their own now guys. I personally dont want a computer to have a mind of its own that would be scary as hell.
 

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Lets just hope this doesnt give computers a mind of their own now guys. I personally dont want a computer to have a mind of its own that would be scary as hell.
*cough*skynet*cough*
 
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#24
Skynet the moost advanced anti-virus system in the world that got access to miltary systems
and who is the virus? we are.. :p

it would be nice if the AI can do research in technolagy like
Space tech
Nanotech
Laser tech
Teleportation?
Medical research
weapons?
Hardware
 

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Skynet the moost advanced anti-virus system in the world that got access to miltary systems
and who is the virus? we are.. :p

it would be nice if the AI can do research in technolagy like
Space tech
Nanotech
Laser tech
Teleportation?
Medical research
weapons?
Hardware
do your really want a computer in charge of stuff like that?