Hypochondriac or is it real

[nomdeplume]

I neither live somewhere warm or keep the space my computer is in so. Temps have recently been hovering around 25C during light use. After running ROG realbench it idles at 34C. Now I'm not saying but I'm just saying.

Temps never broke above 50C (CPU or VRM) during test. After which I shut down the computer. Next day the 10C jump was there out of the gate. No amount of hunting for crap running in the background has produced a feasible answer.

I'd appreciate ideas what could possibly have gone wrong or be the cause here.

 

[jboydgolfer]

what is it your asking?

 

[nomdeplume]

I'd appreciate ideas what could possibly have gone wrong or be the cause here.

In a 90 F room it ran at 28C. Same fan settings, same everything. I'm lost as to what could have happened here.

 

[jboydgolfer]

I'd appreciate ideas what could possibly have gone wrong or be the cause here.

I get that you're looking for feedback, what I don't get is what that first post means, it doesnt make sense to me, so i asked for clarification. Typing in bold isnt making a difference

 

[nomdeplume]

How is reporting the existence, causation, and effects of a problem lacking in clarity.

Computer ran fine. Computer ran ROG Realbench. Computer displays issues. No other change. No other discernible reason for existence of problem.

 

[EarthDog]

So, let me get this straight..(it is confusing)........ you typically idle at 25C (darn near impossible in the first place), but after running Realbench, you now idle at 34C regardless? I don't see the association here of RB being an issue outside of a correlation.

If your load temps are still in order, then there isn't anything wrong or a solution needed IMO. Idle temps are largely not relevant.

 

[hat]

He's saying his idle temps increased 9c after running realbench.

 

[jboydgolfer]

I neither live somewhere warm or keep the space my computer is in so. Temps have recently been hovering around 25C during light use. After running ROG realbench it idles at 34C. Now I'm not saying but I'm just saying.

this is an explanation of an issue like a chocolate bar is a meal. ive been a native english speaker for over 40 years and , i cannot make heads or tails of what it means.

good luck with your problems

 

[hat]

It's not really that hard to understand... running Realbench seemingly caused his idle temps to increase. How are load temps right now though?

 

[nomdeplume]

Thank you @hat . Load temps follow the same pattern of being approximately 10C higher. Computer was stable and showed no signs of malware, viruses, or otherwise prior to running the benchmark. With the benchmark open, before running, temps were 26C in a 50F room.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

How is reporting the existence, causation, and effects of a problem lacking in clarity.

Computer ran fine. Computer ran ROG Realbench. Computer displays issues. No other change. No other discernible reason for existence of problem.

First off no procesor reports acurate idle temps ,secondly often reporting software gets it wronger.
If you're TIM was really old it could have just cracked or seperated that's my first step, re Tim.

 

[nomdeplume]

It may not report accurately but it sure maintained the second ideal condition of reporting consistently. Using Hwinfo or CoreTemp.

TIM is 3-4 months old and does not see heavy and lengthy periods of high temps. This is a fairly simple equation of used X program and Y problem occurred.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

It may not report accurately but it sure maintained the second ideal condition of reporting consistently. Using Hwinfo or CoreTemp.

I would suggest a re Tim , how long did you run that bench,?

 

[nomdeplume]

I ran the benchmark not the stress test. More accurately, I ran the benchmark without including the Open CL portion. So at most it took 4 minutes to complete. I did not time it.

 

[EarthDog]

The room your PC is in is 50F? That is cold (and makes 25C idle possible).

RB doesn't install anything or leave remenants etc, so that was more than likely a coincidence. What caused this, no idea, but I would bet empirical testing plays a role here.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I ran the benchmark not the stress test. More accurately, I ran the benchmark without including the Open CL portion. So at most it took 4 minutes to complete. I did not time it.

Wow , that's not something you would expect to cause issues , retim still, it's sounds like it went bad in that run , possibly retry and monitor temps with your finger on the cancel button.

 

[hat]

Reseating the cooler is worth a try, at least.

 

[Papahyooie]

I guess running the benchmark at cold temps might have caused the TIM to separate somehow? I don't know anything about the thermal expansion of TIM, but I'm sure it has to have *some* expansion.

Re-TIM, as said above... if that doesn't work, I'm gonna go with hypochondriac lol.

 

[neatfeatguy]

I'd appreciate ideas what could possibly have gone wrong or be the cause here.

In a 90 F room it ran at 28C. Same fan settings, same everything. I'm lost as to what could have happened here.

You using some kind of LN to cool the system or......I guess I'm failing to see the issue here.

90F = 32.2C

If it is indeed 90F in your room, there is no way any air cooler or AIO system could get your idle temps below 32C.

My house stays around 70F (21.1C). I have my 4670k OC'ed to 4.4 right now (maybe 4.3, not at home to verify at the moment) and when she does sit idle at the desktop, with a H100i cooler, her idle temp is right around 25C. Even if my CPU ran a touch cooler when idling, it could not get cooler than the ambient temp of 21C.

Thank you @hat . Load temps follow the same pattern of being approximately 10C higher. Computer was stable and showed no signs of malware, viruses, or otherwise prior to running the benchmark. With the benchmark open, before running, temps were 26C in a 50F room.

Here you post 50F (that would be 10C). That's a cold room to be sitting in. If you are indeed in a 50F room, I'd expect your idle temps to be lower than 26C (closer to 15C). So....what is the ambient temp in the room your computer is in?

 

[nomdeplume]

This went off the rails from word one. Temps do not spike in a cold room with a likely even colder floor. I can only ascribe said spike to one easily placed event. Which was not a well documented on TPU experiment with higher ambient temps and performance.

I'm quite doubtful TIM or the cooler suddenly lost the ability to function. Out of diligence I will repaste and reseat the cooler. This in the face of any other reasonable explanation what could have occurred to create this large change.

This computer sees very occasional light gaming use and lots of time running a browser or other light duty program. There is no rager 18 hour 4K gaming session with max setting and with the computer stuffed in a packed closet with no airflow to speak of. I take very good care of it and keep temps consistently low. A drastic change in the attitude of my fans signaled a problem I had some hopes of reasonable if not intelligent discourse on. Thanks?

 

[Splinterdog]

I really don't understand why the OP is using both Centigrade and Fahrenheit. Us one or the other please.
"In a 90 F room it ran at 28C "
" ...temps were 26C in a 50F room
Frankly, I wouldn't lose too much sleep over this.

 

[nomdeplume]

In the US we don't typically refer to anything but certain technical measurement using the metric system. My apologies if this caused you undue strain.

 

[EarthDog]

But, it is more than common when talking about PCs, to list in C. The point being to be consistent either way to prevent confusion. This thread is difficult to follow... on one hand you mention stable temps, then the other "with higher ambient temps and performance".

You can try uninstalling the application. If that changes temps, you know the culprit. I doubt it will, but, its free and takes seconds to check.

Outside of that, you would need to do some empirical testing as it doesn't make sense running a non tray application once caused temps to go up 10C idle and load.

 

[the54thvoid]

Could there be a rank outsider causing issues? I use an Asus software suite, with Fan Expert (II)? After the mitigation patches, I lost my fan control software UI. It eventually righted itself after another Windows update. What I'm suggesting, as much as it is unlikely, has the Asus RB software, somehow affected any running mobo utility (like Fan Control)?

Outside shot, but a legit one based on my own experience.

 

[hat]

I'm now convinced there must be some sort of weird issue at play given @nomdeplume stated load temps are ~10c higher as well.

Maybe take a look in your BIOS? This is really a longshot, especially given that H series board, but maybe that program or something else changed something in the BIOS causing odd behavior. You can't magically just make something run 10c hotter for no reason...