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I cannot believe what i'm seeing here no way is this cooler on this card

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no it wont
 

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thats pretty weird, but hey if they did it. It must work!
 
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I bet it will 55nm or not thats a hot mofo and it got next to no cooling.
I don't think it will die either, They'd lose their ass in returns if it wasn't up to the task. I bet it negatively impacts overclocking tho.
 
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I don't think it will die either, They'd lose their ass in returns if it wasn't up to the task. I bet it negatively impacts overclocking tho.
It's gonna die in Joe Averages Hp case with two 92 mm fans. Its gonna die. :twitch: I bet the PCB burns your finger during lite use.
 
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It's gonna die in Joe Averages Hp case with two 92 mm fans. Its gonna die. :twitch:
Nah. Again, they wouldn't bother with it if it would. They are going to test it in "Joe average" conditions before they release it.
 

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it wound die so stop arguing with us!:shadedshu
 

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yeah, i'm sure they probably do test it in "Joe Average" conditions too, don't think ASUS is that dumb.
 
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I don't think it will die either, They'd lose their ass in returns if it wasn't up to the task. I bet it negatively impacts overclocking tho.
Nah. Again, they wouldn't bother with it if it would. They are going to test it in "Joe average" conditions before they release it.
I'm not so sure even these bad boys died like crazy. They don't run near as hot as the 260 gtx.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121253:twitch:
 

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yes they did die
 
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Where do you get those died? I haven't seen it.
Had them and they are hot hot near the voltage regulators and lots of them died especially the 4870 version.
 

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*fullstop*

Do not want. No memory cooling... gpu cooler is about good enough for a 9800GT.
 

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Had them and they are hot hot near the voltage regulators and lots of them died especially the 4870 version.
Overclocked?
 
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Read the newegg reviews even those 4850 are hot hot look at the cons. They finally changed the 4870 version to the knight style cooler.
 

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looks to me like a perfect card to buy.

IF I was thinking of replacing the cooling anyway. A ton more noob friendly to put on a aftermarket cooler, versus disassembling the stock behemoth.

Other than that I would pass if I planned to use it as-is.
 

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Read the newegg reviews even those 4850 are hot hot look at the cons. They finally changed the 4870 version to the knight style cooler.
I also read reviews that say they stayed cool. Still, were they OCed? If so, it doesn't count. The cooler is only guaranteed to do it's job at advertised speeds, and that's all they are required to do.

I'm not saying it's a good design, just that I don't think they'll be dying at stock speeds anytime soon.
 
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here are a few excerpts

Con :it does run hot with the stock heat sink. I have a friend that is using the Zalman VF1000 cooler on this card and he is satisfied with the temps. I forgot what he told me the temps were but he is running two of these CrossFire with the Zalmans on them and he's been playing Crysis with no problem. It's just a shame that the stock heat sinks don't keep the card cool enough. I can see where the cards would fail due to high temps.


Cons: Runs insanely hot, I'm not even kidding. I knew this in advanced from reading reviews, benchmarks and because ATI cards just run really really hot but wow...

Cons: Card runs very hot, but it’s due to having a single slot cooler solution. Fan gets loud when doing the XML fan mod. solved the problem with a Koolance water block.

Cons: the heat this thing generated overwhelms any attempt to cool it. I've got seven fans in a roomy case and still, mid-game, the heat will kill the system and force a restart. (even WITH the ati 4850/4860 fan speed hack!)
Cons: There's a fine line between a "good value" and "shoddy riffraff", and this crosses into the less admirable category. Don't be fooled--the card doesn't just "run hot." Even with the (buggy) fan controller software, at full speed, it both sounds like a jet engine and runs at 70 degrees during some games. That is completely unacceptable, especially because it's so hot that it affects my CPU cooling. I would be scared to think of what kind of cooling would be necessary if you wanted to CrossFire these.

Con: Very, very hot even in a Silverstone towercase with the wind tunnel and several fans, the heat output is ridiculous. After 3 months, I started seeing gray dots an dlines on the video during post and when I tell XP to go into VGA/safe mode it does not recognize the card. I reinstalled XP, installed newer drivers and swapped out the heatsink..this is being RMA'd. First time RMA'ing to Asus after buying lots of their products...lets see what their support is like....

con:poor cooling at default speed, head-splitting noise at higher fan speeds.

con: The card will overheat when displaying a simple EGA screen, such as your PC bios. the fan appears to be running fast enough, yet the card overheats. Weird. In gameplay, the card will occasionally display a pop-up window "VPU Recover has reset your graphics accelerator as it was no longer responding to graphics driver commands". Upgrading to latest driver did not resolve this.

con :Hot and can be somewhat noisy when the fan is over 60%
Trust me i had the 4870 version and had to modify it . Remember this is on a down clocked 45 nm chip not a 200 gtx 55nm chip it will run hotter than any 4800 series card with maybe the 4890 toxic as a exception.
 
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t does run hot with the stock heat sink. I have a friend that is using the Zalman VF1000 cooler on this card and he is satisfied with the temps. I forgot what he told me the temps were but he is running two of these CrossFire with the Zalmans on them and he's been playing Crysis with no problem. It's just a shame that the stock heat sinks don't keep the card cool enough. I can see where the cards would fail due to high temps.


Cons: Runs insanely hot, I'm not even kidding. I knew this in advanced from reading reviews, benchmarks and because ATI cards just run really really hot but wow...

Cons: Card runs very hot, but it’s due to having a single slot cooler solution. Fan gets loud when doing the XML fan mod. solved the problem with a Koolance water block.

Cons: the heat this thing generated overwhelms any attempt to cool it. I've got seven fans in a roomy case and still, mid-game, the heat will kill the system and force a restart. (even WITH the ati 4850/4860 fan speed hack!)
Cons: There's a fine line between a "good value" and "shoddy riffraff", and this crosses into the less admirable category. Don't be fooled--the card doesn't just "run hot." Even with the (buggy) fan controller software, at full speed, it both sounds like a jet engine and runs at 70 degrees during some games. That is completely unacceptable, especially because it's so hot that it affects my CPU cooling. I would be scared to think of what kind of cooling would be necessary if you wanted to CrossFire these.

Very, very hot even in a Silverstone towercase with the wind tunnel and several fans, the heat output is ridiculous. After 3 months, I started seeing gray dots an dlines on the video during post and when I tell XP to go into VGA/safe mode it does not recognize the card. I reinstalled XP, installed newer drivers and swapped out the heatsink..this is being RMA'd. First time RMA'ing to Asus after buying lots of their products...lets see what their support is like....


trust me i had the 4870 version and had to modify it .
And the 4870 is a hotter card. And, again, were you OCed?

As far as Newegg reviews, here's one on the 4850.

Pros: runs cool, i don't know why people say the claciator is bad (asus heatsink for the card.)
i overclocked to 715, but can go much farther.
memory overclocked to 1099, 2198 effective.
stays at 48 room temp ( live in california, so my room temp is like 30-35)
at full load the fan runs at 36% speed, because the temp never goes above 60, hovers in the mid 50's( 54-56 )(overclocked)
barely touches the 50's not overclocked.
not too big, but still a dual slot.
new egg was great.
comes with all adapters( dvi-vga,s-video to RGB, dvi to hdmi, molex to 6 pin pci,)
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it it can go beyound a stock 4870, but not close to an overclocked one. runs cod waw on highest settings on crazy resolutions, at above 60 fps ( CRAZY )
 
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And the 4870 is a hotter card. And, again, were you OCed?

As far as Newegg reviews, here's one on the 4850.

Pros: runs cool, i don't know why people say the claciator is bad (asus heatsink for the card.)
i overclocked to 715, but can go much farther.
memory overclocked to 1099, 2198 effective.
stays at 48 room temp ( live in california, so my room temp is like 30-35)
at full load the fan runs at 36% speed, because the temp never goes above 60, hovers in the mid 50's( 54-56 )(overclocked)
barely touches the 50's not overclocked.
not too big, but still a dual slot.
new egg was great.
comes with all adapters( dvi-vga,s-video to RGB, dvi to hdmi, molex to 6 pin pci,)
runs crysis warhead on enthusaist if overclocked to 730(20-30)fps,
it it can go beyound a stock 4870, but not close to an overclocked one. runs cod waw on highest settings on crazy resolutions, at above 60 fps ( CRAZY )


Wile I had two Asus 4850's and a 4870 and changed the cooler on them all they were crazy hot overclocked or not. The 260 gtx 55 nm runs hotter than a 4870 anyways even at stock thats why it has the giant heat pipe cooler when shipped , not this dinky crap..

and for every good one you post I can post several times that are bad bad.
 

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Wile I had two 4850's and a 4870 and changed the cooler on them all they were crazy hot overclocked or not. The 260 gtx 55 nm runs hotter than a 4870 anyways even at stock thats why it has the giant heat pipe cooler when shipped , not this dinky crap..
I don't doubt they were hot. But, being hot doesn't automatically mean the card is going to die. I never said this is a good design, just that I doubt they will die quickly, especially at stock speeds. A cooler does not have to allow enough heat rejection for OCing. All it has to do is cool the card at advertised speeds.
 
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thats enough cooling

there are GT200's with single slot air cooling like the ref 8800GT cooling too
 
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thats enough cooling

there are GT200's with single slot air cooling like the ref 8800GT cooling too
There is no comparing a 8800 gts GPU to the GPU on the 200 gtx series cards. The 200 gtx GPU is the largest most complicated GPU on the planet hands down. At least for general use and mass produced. That's why the boys at geforce lost their ass making it. It would be like comparing a very fast Corvette to a Dragster. (at least speed and heat wise).
 
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?

I am saying that their are single slot coolers for some GT200 GPU's like whats on the reference 8800gt