I just succesfully baked DDR4

[Bomby569]

Is that a serious question?

gravity couldn't work in that case as you said, it's impossible. If your saying things will fall from the back, imagine a gpu that's what most of uses put on the oven, how many pieces are soldered and how many usually fall? you'd have a hundred little things fall off.

 

[stinger608]

Good to see you fixed it, but I do have to question why you didn't just get it replaced under warranty. Most ram has a lifetime warranty.

G.skill even let me RMA ram I bought used. All I had to pay was shipping and they gave me a brand new kit.

This!

I was just going to ask that exact question. The OP stated, "i saved myself buying a identical, 32GB kit tomorrow."

You could have just did an RMA through the manufacture.

One of the issues with baking motherboards, video cards, and any of the larger components; the fumes from these larger items are toxic. RAM sticks I'm sure wouldn't be near as toxic as they are quite small.

 

[RyzenMaster.sys]

And baking hardware would void your warranty too...

 

[Shrek]

I would say it is not wise to bake electronic components in the same oven one uses for cooking.

 

[RyzenMaster.sys]

I prefer to use a heatgun to an oven for that reason and others. But only, ONLY as a last resort.

 

[Jism]

I'm guessing that stick does not have two-sided memory chips. Because if that's the case, then it would not be impossible for the ones facing down to just follow the rules of gravity and fall off.

It does. It's a 16GB stick. I have 2 of 'm. As i wrote down i could narrow down using memtest86 the exact stick and even failing adress. I dont have equipment to narrow down exactly which memory chip or perhaps solder a new one on top.

Good to see you fixed it, but I do have to question why you didn't just get it replaced under warranty. Most ram has a lifetime warranty.

G.skill even let me RMA ram I bought used. All I had to pay was shipping and they gave me a brand new kit.

I'm not sure; it's a corsair kit with Hynix based memory. I'd have to go through the RMA and pretty much be running with replacement memory till the time being.

I kind of live with the idea now that hardware usually does'nt last that very long. It's never bin overvolted either since it's terrible for overclocking.

I would say it is not wise to bake electronic components in the same oven one uses for cooking.

I ventilated it alot. So it shoud'nt be or cause an issue really. Tonight i grilled chicken wings in there and they tasted perfectly fine.

I prefer to use a heatgun to an oven for that reason and others. But only, ONLY as a last resort.

I did'nt had the proper equipment either. But an oven is a excellent choice for reflowing. Esp this one. This thing just brings "real" heat to the table.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Temporary fix

True if no liquid flux was used. If flux was used it'll be a solid fix.

 

[eidairaman1]

Is that a serious question?

Pay him no mind

True if no liquid flux was used. If flux was used it'll be a solid fix.

Baking whether fluxed or not is just a timed device waiting to fail.

 

[Mussels]

I wish i'd thought of this before i threw out an 8GB stick of corsair DDR4 a few months back

What an obvious, logical extension of the GPU baking

 

[cst1992]

Baking whether fluxed or not is just a timed device waiting to fail.

I never really knew what happens to electronics when you bake a board(apart from obviously the solder liquefying again) so when the HDMI on my old LG TV failed, I could have baked the motherboard if I really wanted to but I didn't. I also didn't have a spare oven, so there's that too.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Baking whether fluxed or not is just a timed device waiting to fail.

Sorry, that is not correct. Baking without getting liquid flux under the part being reflowed(baked) is hit or miss, but when done properly with liquid flux being injected into the space under the part with the cold solder ball joint works very well and is a permanent fix that lasts. Reflowing is a service I still provide for XB360's & PS3's as well as PC parts.

 

[Bomby569]

Sorry, that is not correct. Baking without getting liquid flux under the part being reflowed(baked) is hit or miss, but when done properly with liquid flux being injected into the space under the part with the cold solder ball joint works very well and is a permanent fixed that lasts. Reflowing is a service I still provide for XB360's & PS3's as well as PC parts.

it depends on what the problem was, it certainly doesn't hurt, but it isn't a miracle cure. I'm sorry but the way you wrote it seems it fix any problem, it doesn't. It also isn't a permanent fix, it may fail in a month a year. It can make the fix last longer depending on what the original problem was.

 

[Mr.Scott]

Yep; or maybe not.

I saved myself a brand new 32GB kit.

Nah. You just delayed the inevitable. Should have just RMA'ed them.

 

[RyzenMaster.sys]

Baking is a temporary fix. You really just ended up making yourself have to buy a new kit since you can't RMA these now.

Corsair is lifetime warranty

 

[delshay]

Corsair is lifetime warranty

Going back how far. I have trays of corsair DDR1 memory modules , well over 100..

 

[RyzenMaster.sys]

Going back how far. I have trays of corsair DDR1 memory modules , well over 100..

Not sure. I bought some Corsair DDR1 brand new in original packaging earlier this year. Really nice ram. But nowhere does the packaging mention anything about warranty.

Edit, Corsair's website says "All DRAM memory modules have a limited lifetime warranty"

https://help.corsair.com/hc/en-us/articles/360033067832-Corsair-Limited-Warranty

Just about any ram has a lifetime warranty tbh.

 

[Shrek]

I never really knew what happens to electronics when you bake a board(apart from obviously the solder liquefying again) so when the HDMI on my old LG TV failed, I could have baked the motherboard if I really wanted to but I didn't. I also didn't have a spare oven, so there's that too.

The motherboard capacitors won't like the reflow temperature; a heat-gun is more localized.

But for a connector, a soldering iron is the better option; I had the USB connector go bad on an old Nook and a soldering iron was all it needed.

 

[eidairaman1]

The mother board capacitors won't like the reflow temperature; a heat-gun is more localized.

Yup but that nozzel better be tiny and you have to be quick not to overheat the spot.

 

[lexluthermiester]

it depends on what the problem was, it certainly doesn't hurt, but it isn't a miracle cure.

If a cold solder joint(crack/break) is the problem, it is a perfect cure. However, if the problem is a flaky part, reflowing will do nothing.

I'm sorry but the way you wrote it seems it fix any problem, it doesn't.

That's not what I said. "Cold solder ball joint" was specifically mentioned to distinguish between that and other problems.

It also isn't a permanent fix, it may fail in a month a year.

Yes, it is.

It can make the fix last longer depending on what the original problem was.

IF it was a cold solder joint, reflowing is a permanent fix.

There seems to be a lot of confusion on this subject, so let's be clear. Ball joints underneath a part package(chip or component) are soldered just like any other electronic part. If the joint was less than optimal at the factory, reflowing using a proper liquid flux at proper oven temps for a proper amount of time will result in a permanent fix for a cold solder ball joint.

This is not magic, it is simple electronic know-how and physics.

 

[Jism]

Ive reheated quite some GPU's, laptop motherboards and what not using the oven. Only one occasion would not help at all as the problem itself was a not functioning VRM on a Radeon 6990 (Dual GPU card). Other then that none of those components ever failed either after reflow. I understand that it might be a temporary fix; i mean time will tell really, but if done proper i dont see any issues with it. No it's not certified for enterprise use obviously. And yes there's a new flaw at this point that it might happen again.

But i'm not worried about it. I mean the proces of RMA towards corsair might take weeks if not months. I'd had to buy a kit anyway in order to keep using my system.

 

[Shrek]

If you do have to do it again, try flux; but not in an oven used for food.

 

[Jism]

Sure, but how do you access a GPU or DRAM chip thats flattened on a PCB like that...

I cant be moving the PCB at all when heated at 200 degrees. Risk of components falling off would be too great.

 

[Shrek]

Just pour liquid flux around the outside of the chip (when cold) and it will make its way in; just don't put flux on all 4 sides which may trap air.

I use Kester 186 but I think there are fluxes that are specific to reflow.

 

[RyzenMaster.sys]

Its not JUST reflowing the solder joints, it's also heating the chips themselves.

 

[eidairaman1]

Its not JUST reflowing the solder joints, it's also heating the chips themselves.

Yup ive seenthis happen with helping a fellow student repair his project, he damaged a near by chip with indirect heat from a solder iron.