I just switched to Linux Mint (latest beta release) I AM FREAKING IN LOVE!!! TAKE CARE WINDOWS 10 and 11 LMAO

[ThrashZone]

so is Linux Mint, I did 5 clicks total and was gaming. lol

Hi,
That is because of steam support mainly
Wine might not be all that stream lined it all depends on what you want to use just like what games you want to play.

I first used mint mate and cinnamon 5-6 years ago not much has changed sadly I picked it back up 6-8 months ago pretty much after I got my z490 rig and run it mainly on it
It's glacier slow on progression so it's always fun at first because it's new but that will wear off sooner or later and you might be like wth lol

 

[Hyderz]

i have a spare laptop i7 4710mq, 12gb ddr3 ram, 128gb ssd, 512gb ssd. 840m gpu.
i want to learn about linux and try to play around. Is this machine sufficient?
i have never tried linux before

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Linux will run on just about anything.
Just make a usb installation media and you can run it off that without ever installing it on the machine lol

 

[Nash]

Hi,
Linux will run on just about anything.
Just make a usb installation media and you can run it off that without ever installing it on the machine lol

Windows will install to, and run from a USB stick when the BIOS presents it as a drive.
It's not fast. Not fast at all.... Lol

 

[Space Lynx]

Hi,
That is because of steam support mainly
Wine might not be all that stream lined it all depends on what you want to use just like what games you want to play.

I first used mint mate and cinnamon 5-6 years ago not much has changed sadly I picked it back up 6-8 months ago pretty much after I got my z490 rig and run it mainly on it
It's glacier slow on progression so it's always fun at first because it's new but that will wear off sooner or later and you might be like wth lol

why would I ever need Wine when Proton supports 6000+ games now and I have a crap ton of backlog on my steam I want to play. i'm good to go for years.

 

[qubit]

Great that Linux is working for you. In particular, I hate product activation in all its forms, no matter how "easy" it is, so it's great not to have to put up with that.

On the other hand, you might find yourself getting sucked back into the Windows world for certain things simply because it's got such immense momentum and support behind it. Things like a particular game that you must have, or perhaps a new printer or scanner will be Windows only etc.

 

[AusWolf]

So first impressions so far today... it's smooth!!! So smooth! It's very user friendly... I have already installed Steam with two clicks, updated all my drivers from the welcome window that pops up on first install, installed proprietary Nvidia driver, got gsync working.

Steam has an awesome feature that only loads automatically compatible Linux games in your library, so I don't have to sift through the store page for each game to see if it is compatible... got two games going so far and no issues at all.

Got firefox all set up as well, 0 issues... honestly... I really see no need for Windows anymore, I already prefer Libreoffice (even when I had windows) and Libreoffice is default on Linux, and it works fantastic.

For a basic user who just browses the web (mostly TPU) and plays older games and indie games... there is seriously no reason to even have Windows anymore. I tried Ubuntu earlier in the year and it felt a little laggy from time to time, but this latest Linux Mint release feels perfect. It's been a seamless transition for me.

It feels good to finally be free.

I wish I could share your enthusiasm. I love Linux Mint, I really do. I've also tried Ubuntu a couple of years ago which was also a positive experience.

I only have a few issues with Linux in general which are big enough for me not to swap:

• Using compatibility tools to run games is not the same as running them natively.
• Driver installation (or installation in general) can be a bit of a chore.
• I have lots of stuff saved into Chrome. I know Chromium exists, but meh...
• LibreOffice works great until you try to open one of your documents with MS Word or PP. Then you can start formatting the whole thing again. Good luck sending CVs/resumes to employers!
• After all these years, why still force the usage of that stupid terminal for more than basic functions? It's not 1986 for F's sake!

 

[lexluthermiester]

why would I ever need Wine when Proton supports 6000+ games now and I have a crap ton of backlog on my steam I want to play. i'm good to go for years.

For non-gaming Windows programs.

 

[Space Lynx]

I wish I could share your enthusiasm. I love Linux Mint, I really do. I've also tried Ubuntu a couple of years ago which was also a positive experience.

I only have a few issues with Linux in general which are big enough for me not to swap:

• Using compatibility tools to run games is not the same as running them natively.
• Driver installation (or installation in general) can be a bit of a chore.
• I have lots of stuff saved into Chrome. I know Chromium exists, but meh...
• LibreOffice works great until you try to open one of your documents with MS Word or PP. Then you can start formatting the whole thing again. Good luck sending CVs/resumes to employers!
• After all these years, why still force the usage of that stupid terminal for more than basic functions? It's not 1986 for F's sake!

Proton is literally just a toggle off on switch in Steam settings... installing steam and nvidia drivers were two clicks in the welcome home screen... 0 issues on my end honestly. I also use libreoffice just fine for many years now even on windows, just remember to save as docx not its default.

 

[AusWolf]

Proton is literally just a toggle off on switch in Steam settings... installing steam and nvidia drivers were two clicks in the welcome home screen... 0 issues on my end honestly. I also use libreoffice just fine for many years now even on windows, just remember to save as docx not its default.

I've never tried Proton. Maybe I will.

As for LibreOffice, it's great that you use it nicely. I did too. Your problems start when you send a document to someone who uses MS Office (which is basically everybody). Then all your design and formatting (maybe even the font) turns into a mashed potato.

 

[Space Lynx]

turns into a mashed potato.

this is true. lol i had some issues with it. but most of my stuff is very simple with no formatting so i rarely notice it

I have a work laptop that is windows only and comes with Office (provided by company I work for) and so now I use Office. I have to say even though I am a basic user, Office is still better overall. It just "feels" better. I have no idea what I mean by that. lol but it does...

 

[The red spirit]

this is true. lol i had some issues with it. but most of my stuff is very simple with no formatting so i rarely notice it

I have a work laptop that is windows only and comes with Office (provided by company I work for) and so now I use Office. I have to say even though I am a basic user, Office is still better overall. It just "feels" better. I have no idea what I mean by that. lol but it does...

By any chance, have you tried SoftMaker's FreeOffice. It's like like MS Office Lite.

 

[mb194dc]

Interesting post. I've been considering this for a while.

I have Servers running Ubuntu and previously Debian. It's seriously unintuitive at times though.

That is what has always stiffled Linux. There was a news group post on it in the 90s, regarding the difficulty of doing the most simple tasks around disk management and mounting etc. Need dig it up. It's still true now largely...

If someone had come up with a similar to Android desktop UI for Linux in the 90s, Windows as we know it wouldn't exist probably.

Will have to give mint a try in a vm at least.

 

[Ja.KooLit]

Your thread attract alot of attention

Anyway, I think I have a general idea that most of TPU linux users are mostly Ubuntu or ubuntu based and/or Debian. Not so much love on Fedora, OpenSuse and Arch. Last month I created a thread asking about some help on AUR (for Arch) and I never get any reply ha ha.

But then, its good to see that TPU Linux Community is growing.....

 

[Anarchy0110]

Can I give a shoutout to Pop_OS by System76 here? It's really good.

 

[Ja.KooLit]

Can I give a shoutout to Pop_OS by System76 here? It's really good.

Have you updated to new Cosmic yet? I think I saw some reviews that its positive

 

[Anarchy0110]

Have you updated to new Cosmic yet? I think I saw some reviews that its positive

Just done an upgrade a few minutes ago, and yes the YouTube vids from some avid Linux guys are all really positive.
This is my first long-term attempt at using an Ubuntu distro though, so I can't say anything much.
I still have to figure out how to use Lutris to get games running as well, haven't got much time.

 

[Space Lynx]

By any chance, have you tried SoftMaker's FreeOffice. It's like like MS Office Lite.

I have not, thanks for the mention. Most likely will stick with Libre though and then actual Office on my work laptop.

 

[Aquinus]

Steam is the reason why I can get away with using Linux or OS X for everything. The only reason I used Windows in the past was for games, but Proton and the quality of GPU drivers has made a great difference in this space. There aren't many reasons these days for me to run Windows these days and those reasons doesn't warrant it being on any of my commonly used machines.

 

[PaulieG]

How well does distributed computing like world community grid work on the various distros? I don't game on PC at all these days, but it's very important to my that WCG works properly.

 

[Space Lynx]

How well does distributed computing like world community grid work on the various distros? I don't game on PC at all these days, but it's very important to my that WCG works properly.

No idea... but a quick google search said (I'd def try it on a spare drive first to make sure it all works up to speed before switching over permanently):

How do I install the Linux application on Ubuntu or other Debian-based distributions?​

In order to install the Linux application on Debian-based Linux distribution such as Ubuntu Linux, you will need to run the following commands:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install boinc-client boinc-manager

The application will be configured to automatically run when you restart your computer.

You will also need to attach your application to World Community Grid by running the following command:

sudo -u boinc boinccmd --project_attach http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org <Account Key>

Your <Account Key> can be found on your My Profile page.

 

[yotano211]

Proton is literally just a toggle off on switch in Steam settings... installing steam and nvidia drivers were two clicks in the welcome home screen... 0 issues on my end honestly. I also use libreoffice just fine for many years now even on windows, just remember to save as docx not its default.

Is libreoffice the same thing as openoffice or different names. I've been using open-office for many years.

 

[Space Lynx]

Is libreoffice the same thing as openoffice or different names. I've been using open-office for many years.

they are different.

edit: nm i think i was wrong, i think it is a branch of open office you are right. weird i thought i read that somewhere

 

[johnspack]

Yep, Libreoffice is a port of Openoffice, basically the same code. And Birdie, an infinite source of pain? Heh. To me that describes windows 10.
If you would just spend some time learning it.... oh why bother.

 

[claes]

Linux on the desktop: an infinite source of pain.

Don't believe anyone who says otherwise - you can try it of course and then run away with third-degree burns.

I wonder why this topic keeps getting updated.

Preface to the critique:

This is not a Windows vs. Linux comparison, however sometimes you'll find comparisons with Windows or Mac OS as a point of reference (after all, their market penetration is in an order of magnitude higher). Most issues listed below are technical by nature, however some of them are "political" (it's not my word - it's what other people say) - for instance when companies refuse to release data sheets or they release incomplete data sheets for hardware, thus Linux users don't get all the features or respective drivers have bugs almost no one in the Linux community can resolve.

I want to make one thing crystal clear - Windows, in some regards, is even worse than Linux and it has its own share of critical problems. Off the top of my head I want to name the following quite devastating issues with Windows: • Windows rot, • no enforced file system and registry hierarchy (I have yet to find a single serious application which can uninstall itself cleanly and fully), • no true safe mode, • the user as a system administrator (thus viruses/malware - most users don't and won't understand UAC warnings), • no good packaging mechanism (MSI is a fragile abomination), • no system-wide update mechanism (which includes third party software), • Windows is extremely difficult to debug, • Windows boot problems are often fatal and unsolvable unless you reinstall from scratch, • Windows is hardware dependent (especially when running from UEFI), • heavy file system fragmentation on SSD disks, • Windows updates are terribly unreliable and they also waste disk space, etc.

Author’s critique of Windows:

Why Windows 10 sucks or Everything Wrong with Microsoft Windows

itvision.altervista.org

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