I need a great video editing program and system to run it.

[trt740]

I will need it for my Pastor to make videos for my church and I would like your impute. We would be making DVD presentations , video editing etc... I also need some ideas on building a system in 1000.00 price range that can handle this type of video production. Can you guys help me with some links to hardware ands software. Build my church a system. I forgot to tell you guys If you know of a great video card like an ALL IN Wonder card and a good video camera to use that would be great.

 

[Dr. Spankenstein]

Are you needing DVD replication ability, like to press a few hundred DVDs quickly?
If so, I don't think your budget can handle the software and hardware expense.
Check supermediastore for duplicators.
For software, I go with tried-and-true TMPGEnc. There are Basic and Pro versions depending on what you need. If you need to make Redbook compliant CDs/DVDs you'll most likely want TMPGEnc xpress 4.0.

 

[Easy Rhino]

well i think you can do a lot with 1000 if you spend it wisely. does that 1000 include buying a monitor??? if it does you can get a nice 19 inch widescreen for under 200. go with a solid dual core cpu that is medium to high end. dont bother with quadcore since it is too expensive on your budget and since it is for church it wont be like you need to turn out videos on a tight time constriction. you also dont need a super powered gpu. perhaps the 3850 which is under 200 i think. get a 3 500 gig drives and raid them up. you can get a cheap case and a cheap dvd burner and a cheap board with ethernet and audio, although you may want to shell out 100 bucks for a decent audio card. and im guessing you want to feed the video from the dv cam to the hdd so make sure the board has firewire and you should be set.

 

[Easy Rhino]

ok here is what i put together for you from newegg. comes with 4 250 gig drives so you can raid them together and a 20 inch widescreen monitor for nice editing desktop space. decent speakers and keyboard/mouse combo and pretty fast dual core cpu with 2 gigs ddr800 and 550 watt psu. i would recommend spending an extra 40 bucks though on the psu and getting something around 600 watts and a more reputable brand.


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Subtotal: $1,076.86

 

[Dr. Spankenstein]

"Now we have no money for a camera....plus it's gonna take weeks to make 150 copies of last weeks Baptism on one stinkin burner!"



I think we need to factor these things into the final budget. I know that my church cranks out 300+ cassettes/CDs/DVD immediately after every service/event. I think he might be needing the duplicator!

 

[Easy Rhino]

"Now we have no money for a camera....plus it's gonna take weeks to make 150 copies of last weeks Baptism on one stinkin burner!"



I think we need to factor these things into the final budget. I know that my church cranks out 300+ cassettes/CDs/DVD immediately after every service/event. I think he might be needing the duplicator!

it sounds to me like he just needs a system to produce videos. a 1000 budget is pretty tight for something like that. the system i compiled will cost atleast 1150 after shipping. that doesnt include an OS and the editing suite like final cut and some other toys like photoshop. more realistically i think his budget should be 2000. at that price he can afford some nice software, another 20 inch monitor, 4 500 gig drives rather than 4 250 gig drives and 4 gigs of ram rather than 2. maybe even a decent set of real studio speakers and a 200 dollar soundcard.

 

[Dr. Spankenstein]

He will need to help us differentiate between a video editing workstation (your system) or a comp that can rough edit/mix video and mass duplicate.
I'm sure that quality isn't top priority, so no need to go overboard with monitors (meaning speakers) and a fancy display. But TBH, I would love to have the rig you suggested at MY disposal!

I do just fine with my DV cam via Firewire (like you suggested), my 1950XT, TMPGEnc Xpress 4.0 and a stack of Taiyo 8x. An ATI card will let you convert video files quick-and-clean with the VIVO codec. Use Ray Adams XCoder GUI, and you've got an awesome transcoder that has very little CPU overhead for whatever CPU/GPU combo you want to run.

 

[sixor]

there are lot´s of freeware video editors

the most known i think is virtualdub, but in www.free-codecs.com you´ll find lot´s of free and shareware programs for video editing

you should get the last ati all in wonder card (don´t know what was the latest) but all of them are great

also maybe it´s not the best solution, but a nice dc sony like the w55 records mpg video at 640*480 30fps and it´s very cheap, add a 2 or 4gb memory and you have like 30 min of video recording

 

[trt740]

Are you needing DVD replication ability, like to press a few hundred DVDs quickly?
If so, I don't think your budget can handle the software and hardware expense.
Check supermediastore for duplicators.
For software, I go with tried-and-true TMPGEnc. There are Basic and Pro versions depending on what you need. If you need to make Redbook compliant CDs/DVDs you'll most likely want TMPGEnc xpress 4.0.

no more like video product, instructional videos and presentations.

 

[Dr. Spankenstein]

Well then, you'll want to make extra sure that your dups will play on any/all players.

My advice: Don't skimp on the software.

Nothing more frustating than pressing "Play" only to see: "Disc not recognised."

 

[trt740]

well i think you can do a lot with 1000 if you spend it wisely. does that 1000 include buying a monitor??? if it does you can get a nice 19 inch widescreen for under 200. go with a solid dual core cpu that is medium to high end. dont bother with quadcore since it is too expensive on your budget and since it is for church it wont be like you need to turn out videos on a tight time constriction. you also dont need a super powered gpu. perhaps the 3850 which is under 200 i think. get a 3 500 gig drives and raid them up. you can get a cheap case and a cheap dvd burner and a cheap board with ethernet and audio, although you may want to shell out 100 bucks for a decent audio card. and im guessing you want to feed the video from the dv cam to the hdd so make sure the board has firewire and you should be set.

Well he wanted a pumped up video card like a 3870, and don't you think a q6600 might be better than a dual core? Hes going to be using Adobe product thats is used for video production. Do you think a AMD 5000+ black edition cpu is enough? The church is trying to save money by producting chruch related video and teaching themselves rather than buying them, thats what he will mainly be doing. Thx this is exactly the kina of thing we need keep it comming

 

[trt740]

there are lot´s of freeware video editors

the most known i think is virtualdub, but in www.free-codecs.com you´ll find lot´s of free and shareware programs for video editing

you should get the last ati all in wonder card (don´t know what was the latest) but all of them are great

also maybe it´s not the best solution, but a nice dc sony like the w55 records mpg video at 640*480 30fps and it´s very cheap, add a 2 or 4gb memory and you have like 30 min of video recording

can you link that camera here. This is great.

 

[trt740]

He will need to help us differentiate between a video editing workstation (your system) or a comp that can rough edit/mix video and mass duplicate.
I'm sure that quality isn't top priority, so no need to go overboard with monitors (meaning speakers) and a fancy display. But TBH, I would love to have the rig you suggested at MY disposal!

I do just fine with my DV cam via Firewire (like you suggested), my 1950XT, TMPGEnc Xpress 4.0 and TMPGEnc Xpress 4.0. An ATI card will let you convert video files quick-and-clean with the VIVO codec. Use Ray Adams XCoder GUI, and you've got an awesome transcoder that has very little CPU overhead for whatever CPU/GPU combo you want to run.

I'm really dumb on this topic can you tell me what each device is for and how basically you would use it. Also didn't they stop making the all in wonder cards, and he doesn't need a dx10 card right. I know little or nothing about video production on a computer. Whats this program for TMPGEnc Xpress 4.0 and this one aswell TMPGEnc Xpress 4.0. Do I buy them or are they free?

 

[trt740]

it sounds to me like he just needs a system to produce videos. a 1000 budget is pretty tight for something like that. the system i compiled will cost atleast 1150 after shipping. that doesnt include an OS and the editing suite like final cut and some other toys like photoshop. more realistically i think his budget should be 2000. at that price he can afford some nice software, another 20 inch monitor, 4 500 gig drives rather than 4 250 gig drives and 4 gigs of ram rather than 2. maybe even a decent set of real studio speakers and a 200 dollar soundcard.

The software hes getting is free. It's some expensive Adobe premier software so thats not a problem. Hes was asking me to ask you guys for some other good cheap video production software if you know of any? The computer could be build for around 1000.00 corrrect? and he does need two monitors but they could be 17 or 19 inch flate screens. I'm going to build the computer with Techpowerups help. I was hoping we could build a system on paper with links from newegg etc... So maybe a a AMD dual core to save money like a 5000 black edition, a cheaper tower case, a all in wonder video card , 3 /500 gig SATA drives, a DVD/ Cdrom burner and windows xp professional. Plus two smaller nice montiors sound good. OOPs forgot hes gonna need a good sound card for audio aswell. If I didn't tell you thanks alot.

 

[trt740]

ok here is what i put together for you from newegg. comes with 4 250 gig drives so you can raid them together and a 20 inch widescreen monitor for nice editing desktop space. decent speakers and keyboard/mouse combo and pretty fast dual core cpu with 2 gigs ddr800 and 550 watt psu. i would recommend spending an extra 40 bucks though on the psu and getting something around 600 watts and a more reputable brand.


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Subtotal: $1,076.86

this is exactly what i need something like this.

 

[Dr. Spankenstein]

^^ Don't forget the OS!!

I'm really dumb on this topic can you tell me what each device is for and how basically you would use it. Also didn't they stop making the all in wonder cards, and he doesn't need a dx10 card right. I know little or nothing about video production on a computer. Whats this program for TMPGEnc Xpress 4.0 and this one aswell TMPGEnc Xpress 4.0. Do I buy them or are they free?

My DV cam is an el cheepo JVC that records digitally on mini-DV tapes. Mine is now 6yrs old and I imagine they could be had quite cheap now. It uses a Firewire or 1394 cable to transfer the video to the hard drive for editing/archiving.

The X1950XT is my ATI beauty from the heady days before the HD series! Helloooooooo....any fossils like me still around?!? You can still find all-in-wonder cards, but why? You don't need a TV or radio tuner, do you?

TMPGEnc Xpress is a full featured MPEG encoder to make DVD compliant discs. Unfortunately, not freeware. Besides, freeware solutions would take multiple stages of editing, transcoding and verification compounded by a steep learning curve (not to mention the gaggle of codecs and such you'll have to find/juggle/experiment with. Although I am cheap, my time is not: so I go with a more refined solution. You'll have no problems with Adobe Premier, so go with that.

Any questions, feel free to ask...

 

[JacKz5o]

4GB of RAM helps a lot. I would recommend to go with a low-mid range C2D and overclock it, will blow the AM2 out of the water. The extra L2 cache on the Core 2s helps a lot in rendering.

 

[Easy Rhino]

jackz50 is correct. if you want to save money on the cpu then get a "slower" intel c2d and overclock it. then add 4 gigs of ram. i dont think you will be able to buy 2 monitors and stay within your budget. and btw, i would recommend 4 250 gig drives in raid rather than 3 500 gig drives. you may get more space with the 500 x 3 but i dont think you will need over 1 terabyte and you can always burn your projects to dvd. with 4 x 250 you will get better performance and you can use it for redundancy just in case a drive dies you can easily recover your data. down the road if you want for 400 bucks get a NAS that holds a terabyte just for extra space.

 

[suraswami]

If you don't need horse power just find a AGP based 9800 pro All-in-wonder. Get the MSI or Biostar AM2 mobo with AGP slot in it (which is about $50). X2 6000 atleast. Then rest is the same, HDD, DVD burner/duplicator etc. I am sure somebody here should be having such AGP card.

Or option 2 would be get a X600 or X700 based PCI-E card ($30 brand new)(Still DX9 which is good enough), K-world brand cheap Video capture card($25)/$10 fire-wire card. PCI-E compatible AM2 mobo ($50) (Biostar) + X2 6000 + others and you are good to go. Still think $1000 is a pretty good budget.

JVC Video camcorders are far superior to those Canon crap. I have a JVC and it is awesome. You can get a mini-dv version for around $175.

Once you finish building your entire system you will still be having cash to buy a duplicator

Just my 2 cents.

 

[trt740]

whats a good all in one video capturing card not junk but decent. So far I have a system bulit using a 6400x2 ,a 750 mb Western digital hardive 7200 rmp, 19 inch HandsG montior widescreen, 4 GB of Gskill DDR2 800, M2N32 sli deluxe wireless motherboard so he can broadcast Wireless in the small main church area, 3850 512MB card, Xp profession, cooler master stacker case, LG dvd burner. Thats about 1100.00 shipped after rebates. If I use a e6550 and a comperable intel boaard it is about 1200.00. I think the AMD chip would be better because hes not going to overclock it. I might get a 5000+ black edition or 6000+ but we are only taking a saving of 20.00 to 60.00. Also whats a decent lower end HD ready video card fom Nivda, and instead of the 3850 is there any reason not to go with a older 7900 gtx for SLI or 8600 gts 512mb, would he see zero benifit in SLI in the future.? Also would a 2600 xt or something lower from ATI be okay for this or even a x1900xt 512mb. I'm a gamer and don't know a thing about this my church can barely keep the lights on so I'm trying to get a bang for the buck system. This is a Rick Warren style church(purpose driven life) They give just about everything income wise to outreach programs ETC... trying to help the poor. So they are on a tight budget.

 

[Easy Rhino]

whats a good all in one video capturing card not junk but decent. So far I have a system bulit using a 6400x2 ,a 750 mb Western digital hardive 7200 rmp, 19 inch HandsG montior widescreen, 4 GB of Gskill DDR2 800, M2N32 sli deluxe wireless motherboard so he can broadcast Wireless in the small main church area, 3850 512MB card, Xp profession, cooler master stacker case, LG dvd burner. Thats about 1100.00 shipped after rebates. If I use a e6550 and a comperable intel boaard it is about 1200.00. I think the AMD chip would be better because hes not going to overclock it. I might get a 5000+ black edition or 6000+ but we are only taking a saving of 20.00 to 60.00. Also whats a decent lower end HD ready video card fom Nivda, and instead of the 3850 is there any reason not to go with a older 7900 gtx for SLI or 8600 gts 512mb, would he see zero benifit in SLI in the future.? Also would a 2600 xt or something lower from ATI be okay for this or even a x1900xt 512mb. I'm a gamer and don't know a thing about this my church can barely keep the lights on so I'm trying to get a bang for the buck system. This is a Rick Warren style church(purpose driven life) They give just about everything income wise to outreach programs ETC... trying to help the poor. So they are on a tight budget.

what do you need a capture card for? are you capturing cable channels or something? these days you dont need a capture card if you are going from a digital device. just use firewire. and i would really recomment multiple harddrives because it improves performance.

 

[trt740]

what do you need a capture card for? are you capturing cable channels or something? these days you dont need a capture card if you are going from a digital device. just use firewire. and i would really recomment multiple harddrives because it improves performance.

I thinks he going to cover old VHS tapes to dvd from old sermons and teaching tapes hes made.

 

[trt740]

what do you need a capture card for? are you capturing cable channels or something? these days you dont need a capture card if you are going from a digital device. just use firewire. and i would really recomment multiple harddrives because it improves performance.

I have two hardrives in my system. I have never put them in a raid expain how I do this. Do I just enable the raid function and it will start using it or do I have to do it when I first install windows.

 

[Easy Rhino]

I have two hardrives in my system. I have never put them in a raid expain how I do this. Do I just enable the raid function and it will start using it or do I have to do it when I first install windows.

i wont go into details here because there are several different ways to do it. you just need a motherboard that is capable of doing a raid array. if not you can get a special pci raid card. if you search the forums im pretty sure someone goes into detail on raid.

 

[suraswami]

Sometimes ATI video cards comes with Video in capability. Check for it.