I need help build 600 euro pc

krusha03 · Oct 5, 2016

Z170 is of course the best because you can overclock even non k cpus by upping the bclk

slozomby · Oct 5, 2016

wolar said:
The most problem i have is choosing a motherboard from b150 h170 z170 being so close in price they are confusing.

if you're not getting a K proc then you don't need a Z motherboard. if you're getting a K proc you want a Z motherboard.

P4-630 · Oct 5, 2016

slozomby said:
if you're not getting a K proc then you don't need a Z motherboard.

krusha03 said:
Z170 is of course the best because you can overclock even non k cpus by upping the bclk

$ReaPeR$ · Oct 5, 2016

wolar said:
Hi guys i will make a computer and i need help picking out whats the best components to get for it. The site i will buy it from its computeruniverse , i got a 750 ti that i will tranfer over. Also i need a 240-256gb SSD. I would like it to be as "future proof" as i can get for that budget. Thanks guys

what do you think about this system? i didn't put a GPU because you said that you would use the 750ti, and i didn't put a case because i don't know what you would prefer.

Komshija · Oct 5, 2016

wolar said:
Well a 30euro cooler to get cooler and quieter than stock is worth it i think ,
for the psu i do agree its a bad choice for this price point but i do want to get a good component one ,
although if you say that the corsair one will do fine then i might grab that and save 40-50 eur or so.
The most problem i have is choosing a motherboard from b150 h170 z170 being so close in price they are confusing.

Corsair CX550M is made by CWT and uses chinese or taiwanese capacitors. Not necessarily bad, but they are second tier. Enermax Maxpro is produced by Enermax and uses japanese capacitors, but it isn't modular.

If you plan to upgrade CPU in the future, take MSI Z170A Krait Gaming 3X or Krait Gaming R6 Siege motherboard, which are 30€ more expensive than the one I previously suggested. However, if you plan to keep your PC for about 4 or less years, go with MSI H170 Gaming M3, which is a very good motherboard.
If you are on a very strict budget, pick Gigabyte GA-B150 HD3P which is 30€ cheaper than MSI H170.
My personal choice for i5 6500 would be MSI H170 Gaming M3...

wolar · Oct 12, 2016

I'm going for something like this, i know 650w is overkill but its the same price as the 550w so why not (im not going over by many watts to reduce efficiency anw).
Also for the case there is the fractal r4, define s, s340 , so im going for something among those 4 (with the one on the build being the most favorite).
Cpu with stock cooler is 23 euro more so its cheaper to go for aftermarket cooler, i think this one will suffice.
Do you see anything i should change ?

Thanks all for the help.

wolar · Oct 12, 2016

Komshija said:
Corsair CX550M is made by CWT and uses chinese or taiwanese capacitors. Not necessarily bad, but they are second tier. Enermax Maxpro is produced by Enermax and uses japanese capacitors, but it isn't modular.

If you plan to upgrade CPU in the future, take MSI Z170A Krait Gaming 3X or Krait Gaming R6 Siege motherboard, which are 30€ more expensive than the one I previously suggested. However, if you plan to keep your PC for about 4 or less years, go with MSI H170 Gaming M3, which is a very good motherboard.
If you are on a very strict budget, pick Gigabyte GA-B150 HD3P which is 30€ cheaper than MSI H170.
My personal choice for i5 6500 would be MSI H170 Gaming M3...

I'm between Enermax Maxpro , corsair vengeance and seasonic s12ii for psu, all 3 seem to have good reviews and i dont care being modular or not.
I really don't have any idea which to go for

Edit: actually as the budget allows for something more expensive i do have the choice to go for something else also. Not sure if its worth it though.

slozomby · Oct 12, 2016

not bad. i'd probly spend the extra 2 euros on the asrock z170 board list above in case you decide to upgrade later.

i7Baby · Oct 12, 2016

Computer Universe is a bit expensive. Try -

CPU: AMD FX-8370 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor (€176.98 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (€35.71 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (€137.52 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory (€58.74 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Silicon Power Slim S55 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€62.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case (€79.84 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€63.51 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €614.30

wolar · Oct 12, 2016

i7Baby said:
Computer Universe is a bit expensive. Try -

CPU: AMD FX-8370 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor (€176.98 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (€35.71 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (€137.52 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory (€58.74 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Silicon Power Slim S55 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€62.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case (€79.84 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€63.51 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €614.30

Thanks for the reply but i decided to go for an i5 , also i'm not from Germany i will be ordering from 1 place to ship here.

krusha03 · Oct 12, 2016

wolar said:
I'm going for something like this, i know 650w is overkill but its the same price as the 550w so why not (im not going over by many watts to reduce efficiency anw).
Also for the case there is the fractal r4, define s, s340 , so im going for something among those 4 (with the one on the build being the most favorite).
Cpu with stock cooler is 23 euro more so its cheaper to go for aftermarket cooler, i think this one will suffice.
Do you see anything i should change ?

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Thanks all for the help.

For 3 euros more get at least the Z170 board. Also as I showed you by buying cheaper case and shipping on a cooler now you can get a i7 in around the same price range or get a 500GB SSD with an i5. Do you really need to spend more than 10% of your budget on a case?

wolar · Oct 25, 2016

Thanks all for the help, these are the items i ordered yesterday. I might add a 1050 ti to replace the 750ti .
I know PSU is overkill but it was about the same price as the 500w one. Also motherboard was 10euro more expensive than the msi H170 one and i decided to get this ,
might do some bclk OC if i can get the bios that allows it.

Kanan · Oct 26, 2016

wolar said:
Thanks all for the help, these are the items i ordered yesterday. I might add a 1050 ti to replace the 750ti .
I know PSU is overkill but it was about the same price as the 500w one. Also motherboard was 10euro more expensive than the msi H170 one and i decided to get this ,
might do some bclk OC if i can get the bios that allows it.

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Looks okay but rather buy a rx470 than a gtx 1050ti, way faster and only a tad more expensive.

wolar · Nov 15, 2016

Guys i got the items but its not booting , i tried outside of the case with motherboard+cpu + cooler (connected to cpu_fan) and 1 or both rams on different slots , PSU connected 24pin and cpu 8pin.
I start it it shows nothing (i tried installing the 750 ti too) , i changed from hdmi to dvi still nothing , i even did a cmon reset still nothing , i tried with different psu also .
I do not own other ddr4 to test or other 1151 motherboard, any idea what is going wrong or how to fix it ?
There is no screen or audio on the motherboard to identify the problem so i am clueless on what is going wrong , PC starts (black screen) and after a while it shutdowns and restarts (endless loop)

wolar · Nov 15, 2016

I read now one comment that says with higher clock ram the motherboard wont boot , you have to install a 2133mhz ones and set from bios the xmp to boot , i hope this is the problem and i will test it as soon as i can get my hands on one

slozomby · Nov 15, 2016

before you go scavenging for ram. a little troubleshooting is in order.
1st unplug everything but power and fans and double check those connections. remove any pci/pcie devices.
put in 1 ram stick and see if it boots.

high speed ram should default to 2133 and boot. if theres a cmos clear option via button or jumper try that.

wolar · Nov 16, 2016

But i said i did all those things

also i assembly the motherboard and cpu outside of the case so no fans or any other connection just cpu motherboard cooler PSU and ram(which i tried in every spot each ram).
I know high speed ram should default to 2133 and boot but i found a comment on amazon that says it wouldnt boot with higher freq ram and he had to put lower speed ones , configure the bios and then put the other ram to work.
Ofcourse it may be a DOA mobo but i have to try that first , also to eliminate the possibility the ram are at fault so all that remains is the motherboard and CPU.
I discharged myself before touching the components and i aligned the cpu to the motherboard correctly, i did not screw up anything i'm certain.

wolar · Nov 16, 2016

Problem is fixed , everything works great and temps are incredibly low , to the point where i consider something being wrong

CPU : 19C idle , 34C under full load (OCCT)

System Name	Desktop / Laptop
Processor	AMD Ryzen R7 5600x / Intel i5-4200U
Motherboard	ASUS TUF B550-Plus / Lenovo MB
Cooling	Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 / Stock
Memory	Corsair Vengeance 2x16GB DDR 3800 / 8GB DDR3-1600MHz
Video Card(s)	AMD Radeon 6900XT / Intel HD 4400
Storage	2.5TB SSDs + 4TB HDD / Samsung 850 EVO 500 GB
Display(s)	34" LG Ultrawide / 12.5 " 1080p IPS Touchscreen
Case	Fractal Design R6 / Lenovo X240
Audio Device(s)	Onboard / Onboard
Power Supply	Enermax REVOLUTION87+ 1000W / Lenovo 40W
Mouse	Razer Basilisk X
Keyboard	Dell Business Multimedia Keyboard
Software	Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
Benchmark Scores	Chicken Invaders 5 @125+ FPS

System Name	Gaming Desktop
Processor	i7 6700k
Motherboard	asus rog alpha
Cooling	H110i
Memory	Corsair Dominator 16gb DDR4 3200
Video Card(s)	GTX 1080
Storage	EVO 840 500gb, EVO 850 500gb, Perc 710 Raid WD RED 4tbx4
Case	Corsair 500r
Power Supply	Antec 850
Mouse	Logitec G502
Keyboard	a cheap dell

System Name	AlderLake / Laptop
Processor	Intel i7 12700K P-Cores @ 5Ghz / Intel i3 7100U
Motherboard	Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master / HP 83A3 (U3E1)
Cooling	Noctua NH-U12A 2 fans + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme + 5 case fans / Fan
Memory	32GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6000MHz CL36 / 8GB DDR4 HyperX CL13
Video Card(s)	MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio / Intel HD620
Storage	Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2 / Samsung 256GB M.2 SSD
Display(s)	23.8" Dell S2417DG 165Hz G-Sync 1440p / 14" 1080p IPS Glossy
Case	Be quiet! Silent Base 600 - Window / HP Pavilion
Audio Device(s)	Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533
Power Supply	Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W / Powerbrick
Mouse	Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless / Logitech M330 wireless
Keyboard	RAPOO E9270P Black 5GHz wireless / HP backlit
Software	Windows 11 / Windows 10
Benchmark Scores	Cinebench R23 (Single Core) 1936 @ stock Cinebench R23 (Multi Core) 23006 @ stock

System Name	Ryzen/Laptop/htpc
Processor	R9 3900X/i7 6700HQ/i7 2600
Motherboard	AsRock X470 Taichi/Acer/ Gigabyte H77M
Cooling	Corsair H115i pro with 2 Noctua NF-A14 chromax/OEM/Noctua NH-L12i
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z 32GB @3200/16GB DDR4 2666 HyperX impact/24GB
Video Card(s)	TUL Red Dragon Vega 56/Intel HD 530 - GTX 950m/ 970 GTX
Storage	970pro NVMe 512GB,Samsung 860evo 1TB, 3x4TB WD gold/Transcend 830s, 1TB Toshiba/Adata 256GB + 1TB WD
Display(s)	Philips FTV 32 inch + Dell 2407WFP-HC/OEM/Sony KDL-42W828B
Case	Phanteks Enthoo Luxe/Acer Barebone/Enermax
Audio Device(s)	SoundBlasterX AE-5 (Dell A525)(HyperX Cloud Alpha)/mojo/soundblaster xfi gamer
Power Supply	Seasonic focus+ 850 platinum (SSR-850PX)/165 Watt power brick/Enermax 650W
Mouse	G502 Hero/M705 Marathon/G305 Hero Lightspeed
Keyboard	G19/oem/Steelseries Apex 300
Software	Win10 pro 64bit

System Name	1.21 gigawatts!
Processor	Intel Core i7 6700K
Motherboard	MSI Z170A Krait Gaming 3X
Cooling	Be Quiet! Shadow Rock Slim with Arctic MX-4
Memory	16GB G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 3000 MHz
Video Card(s)	Palit GTX 1080 Game Rock
Storage	Mushkin Triactor 240GB + Toshiba X300 4TB + Team L3 EVO 480GB
Display(s)	Philips 237E7QDSB/00 23" FHD AH-IPS
Case	Aerocool Aero-1000 white + 4 Arctic F12 PWM Rev.2 fans
Audio Device(s)	Onboard Audio Boost 3 with Nahimic Audio Enhancer
Power Supply	FSP Hydro G 650W
Mouse	Cougar 700M eSports white
Keyboard	E-Blue Cobra II
Software	Windows 8.1 Pro x64
Benchmark Scores	Cinebench R15: 948 (stock) / 1044 (4,7 GHz) FarCry 5 1080p Ultra: min 100, avg 116, max 133 FPS

Processor	13700KF - 5.7GHZ
Motherboard	Z690 UNIFY-X
Cooling	ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 (NF-A12x25)
Memory	2x16 G.SKILL M-DIE (7200-34-44-44-28)
Video Card(s)	XFX MERC 7900XT
Storage	1TB KINGSTON KC3000
Display(s)	FI32Q
Case	LIAN LI O11 DYNAMIC EVO
Audio Device(s)	HD599
Power Supply	RMX1000
Mouse	PULSAR XLITE V2 MINI (RETRO)
Keyboard	KEYCHRON V3 (DUROCK T1 + MT3 GODSPEED R2)
Software	Windows 11
Benchmark Scores	Superposition 4k optimized - 20652

System Name	Edit King
Processor	i7 3930k
Motherboard	ASRock X79 Extreme 6
Cooling	Corsair H110i GT
Memory	4 x 4GB GSkill 2133
Video Card(s)	R9 Nano x 2
Storage	Seagate Barracuda 2TB
Display(s)	LG 34UM88
Power Supply	EVGA G2 750
Mouse	Gigabyte M6580
Keyboard	Azio

System Name	eazen corp \| Xentronon 7.2
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X // PBO max.
Motherboard	Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus
Cooling	Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 w/ AM4 kit // 3x Corsair AF140L case fans (2 in, 1 out)
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z RGB 2x16 GB DDR4 3600 @ 3800, CL16-19-19-39-58-1T, 1.4 V
Video Card(s)	Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2080 Ti modded to MATRIX // 2000-2100 MHz Core / 1938 MHz G6
Storage	Silicon Power P34A80 1TB NVME/Samsung SSD 830 128GB&850 Evo 500GB&F3 1TB 7200RPM/Seagate 2TB 5900RPM
Display(s)	Samsung 27" Curved FS2 HDR QLED 1440p/144Hz&27" iiyama TN LED 1080p/120Hz / Samsung 40" IPS 1080p TV
Case	Corsair Carbide 600C
Audio Device(s)	HyperX Cloud Orbit S / Creative SB X AE-5 @ Logitech Z906 / Sony HD AVR @PC & TV @ Teufel Theater 80
Power Supply	EVGA 650 GQ
Mouse	Logitech G700 @ Steelseries DeX // Xbox 360 Wireless Controller
Keyboard	Corsair K70 LUX RGB /w Cherry MX Brown switches
VR HMD	Still nope
Software	Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores	15 095 Time Spy \| P29 079 Firestrike \| P35 628 3DM11 \| X67 508 3DM Vantage Extreme

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