I want to upgrade my motherboard, but I don't know which one I should buy

eidairaman1 · Feb 26, 2020

oxrufiioxo said:
The Asus Tuf is 3-5c warmer on the vrms than the X570 Taichi with a 3900X overclocked and cost 200 cad more. I don't think a couple C is worth that much.

To get meaningfully better VRM thermals you need an Aorus Master/Asus Hero 8/Msi Unify with the Unify 8-9c better than the Tachi and the other 2 being 12c better than the Tachi.

Buildzoids is great and I love his videos but he doesn't take into account what heatsink is on the vrms a good example is the Asus hero technically being superior to the Aorus master but Gigabyte uses a vastly superior vrm heatsink/backplate with thermal pads and comes out slightly better in thermals.

The other issues is the 3950X only draws 150-180 amps and even the Tuf has 12 50a power stages so unless there is something on more expensive board you can't live without it's sorta senseless to spend more than the 190 cad it currently cost which is about 140 usd.

Upper qual mosfets/vrm dont need a heatsink.

Also active cooling is better

trickson · Feb 26, 2020

eidairaman1 said:
Upper qual mosfets/vrm dont need a heatsink.

I disagree. This is just not true. I mean look at the FX era of MB's anyone without VRM heat-sinks were garbage and burned up hell even ones that had them did, But that was a bit harder to do than the ones without them.

oxrufiioxo · Feb 26, 2020

eidairaman1 said:
Upper qual mosfets/vrm dont need a heatsink.

Also active cooling is better

Definitely, but that doesn't change the fact all the X570 boards other than the sub $300 msi boards handle the 3950X with ease with their overbuilt power delivery most of them being a decent amount better than boards that support a 9900KS.

dirtyferret · Feb 26, 2020

frank30fps said:
Caus I know I'm gonna waste this money in something that isn't use full

you are certainly headed towards that path as you want to upgrade something but you are not sure what.

I personally think your mobo is fine and upgrading your CPU to a 3600 may not improve much.

Obviously this is all about gaming which your GPU does the majority of the heavy lifting. What games are not performing to your level of desire? Right now I think the RX 580 is what is really holding you back.

frank30fps · Feb 26, 2020

To what gpu should I upgrade ?

dirtyferret · Feb 26, 2020

frank30fps said:
To what gpu should I upgrade ?

to what games do you want to play and at what settings? You already stated the monitor is staying and its 1080p

frank30fps · Feb 26, 2020

I mostly play forza and rust right now, forza is at ultra msaax4 and rust is on medium/high

Rahnak · Feb 26, 2020

I would take that money and save some more to get a better gpu when the new stuff rolls around.

trickson · Feb 26, 2020

frank30fps said:
To what gpu should I upgrade ?

I know it has been said many times but man your system is just Amazing as it is. Why would you change a thing?
Save the cash you have for a new build in the future like a few years in the future.
I know it is hard not to want the latest and greatest but personally I can see you have that now.

frank30fps · Feb 26, 2020

my total money is about 430$ if I sell my gpu

EarthDog · Feb 26, 2020

frank30fps said:
my total money is about 430$ if I sell my gpu

You're all over the map...

Good luck!

trickson · Feb 26, 2020

frank30fps said:
my total money is about 430$ if I sell my gpu

Your GPU is better than perfect why?

EarthDog said:
You're all over the map...

Good luck!

With this I agree.
There is no real upgrade needed and op went from MB to CPU to GPU.
Good luck I'm out.

dirtyferret · Feb 26, 2020

frank30fps said:
I mostly play forza and rust right now, forza is at ultra msaax4 and rust is on medium/high

bingo! you want to play RUST at ultra settings! Two pages of wasted comments, lets get you as close to ultra as we can

frank30fps · Feb 26, 2020

yeah i dont know what i want you're all right

dirtyferret · Feb 26, 2020

frank30fps said:
yeah i dont know what i want you're all right

here, doesn't look like Rust should be too challenging. I think if you buy a better cooler and squeeze out a few more mhz from your CPU you should be ok. You can follow the instructions to squeeze out better graphics performance in the link below. Another option would be to get a Ryzen 3600 and then start saving for a new GPU.

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Vario · Feb 26, 2020

dirtyferret said:
here, doesn't look like Rust should be too challenging. I think if you buy a better cooler and squeeze out a few more mhz from your CPU you should be ok. You can follow the instructions to squeeze out better graphics performance in the link below. Another option would be to get a Ryzen 3600 and then start saving for a new GPU.

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Rust doesn't run that well relative to its ugly graphics. You want a good GPU.

moproblems99 · Feb 26, 2020

TheLostSwede said:
This only works with retail licenses, as discussed in a different thread. So it depends on what kind of OS license you buy in the first place.
I have upgraded from Windows 7 Pro retail and obviously have no issues either. However, the $10 OEM licenses aren't likely to allow you to do this.

Oh but they do. Your data is waaaaaay more valuable.

frank30fps · Feb 26, 2020

Stop it with your windows lisence problems, I just use a keygen to get a free windows 10 pro lisence

sneekypeet · Feb 26, 2020

If you just have the itch to buy something new, maybe a case is the answer?

You can spend half or less of your budget and while it has older guts, you do get the "feel" of a new PC.

moproblems99 · Feb 26, 2020

frank30fps said:
Stop it with your windows lisence problems, I just use a keygen to get a free windows 10 pro lisence

Well, this will go south fast.

eidairaman1 · Feb 26, 2020

Keygenning is theft which is not advocated here, next time don't say anything about that.

trickson · Feb 26, 2020

eidairaman1 said:
Keygenning is theft which is not advocated here, next time don't say anything about that.

Right!
I would suggest to the OP that they go buy a real windows 10 disk from a retail store!
I have NEVER once stolen anything let alone a copy of windows! I'm not perfect but I am NOT a THIEF either!

eidairaman1 · Feb 26, 2020

trickson said:
Right!
I would suggest to the OP that they go buy a real windows 10 disk from a retail store!
I have NEVER once stolen anything let alone a copy of windows! I'm not perfect but I am NOT a THIEF either!

Most versions out there come with crap.

trickson · Feb 26, 2020

eidairaman1 said:
Most versions out there come with crap.

Yeah mine is an old windows 10 disk but it is mine I paid full price for and feel great about.
What versions and what crap? I am now confused this is windows 10 and OS we are talking about right?
Go to store buy the version you want, go home install be happy. No theft required.
Just how I done did it. and I had to do it 3 more times and will be going for a fourth and fifth time next moth need 2 more copies for 2 more computers.

eidairaman1 · Feb 26, 2020

trickson said:
Yeah mine is an old windows 10 disk but it is mine I paid full price for and feel great about.
What versions and what crap? I am now confused this is windows 10 and OS we are talking about right?
Go to store buy the version you want, go home install be happy. No theft required.
Just how I done did it. and I had to do it 3 more times and will be going for a fourth and fifth time next moth need 2 more copies for 2 more computers.

Keygen 1s some digital distros.

System Name	PCGOD
Processor	AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard	Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling	Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory	16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
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Power Supply	Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse	Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard	Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software	Windows 7 Pro 64

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Processor	AMD Ryzen7 3700X
Motherboard	Asus TUF X570 Gaming Plus
Cooling	Noctua
Memory	Gskill RipJaws 3466MHz
Video Card(s)	Asus TUF 1650 Super Clocked.
Storage	CB 1T M.2 Drive.
Display(s)	73" Soney 4K.
Case	Antech LanAir Pro.
Audio Device(s)	Denon AVR-S750H
Power Supply	Corsair TX750
Mouse	Optical
Keyboard	K120 Logitech
Software	Windows 10 64 bit Home OEM

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Mouse	Logitech G502 Lightspeed/ Logitech G Pro Hero.
Keyboard	Corsair K95 RGB Platinum/ Logitech G Pro

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Mouse	without as much gnawing as yours
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VR HMD	not as odd looking as yours
Software	extra mushier than yours
Benchmark Scores	up yours

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Processor	Ryzen 7 2700
Motherboard	ASUS PRIME X570-P
Cooling	Cooler Master HYPER 212
Memory	16Gb corsair vengeance LPS 3000Mhz
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Storage	1TB Nvme ssd
Display(s)	acer KG241Q 83HZ/OC 1080p
Case	Cooler master ultra 2007
Power Supply	Corsair VENGEANCE 650M

I want to upgrade my motherboard, but I don't know which one I should buy

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman

trickson

OH, I have such a headache

oxrufiioxo

dirtyferret

frank30fps

dirtyferret

frank30fps

Rahnak

trickson

OH, I have such a headache

frank30fps

EarthDog

trickson

OH, I have such a headache

dirtyferret

frank30fps

dirtyferret

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moproblems99

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman

trickson

OH, I have such a headache

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman

trickson

OH, I have such a headache

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman

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Cooling	Scythe Fuma 2
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Video Card(s)	MSI RTX 3060 Ti Gaming Z
Storage	Kingston KC3000 1TB + WD SN550 1TB + Samsung 860 QVO 1TB
Display(s)	LG 27GP850-B
Case	Lian Li O11 Air Mini
Audio Device(s)	Logitech Z200
Power Supply	Seasonic Focus+ Gold 750W
Mouse	Logitech G305
Keyboard	MasterKeys Pro S White (MX Brown)
Software	Windows 10
Benchmark Scores	It plays games.

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Motherboard	EVGA Z690 Classified
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Case	Lian Li O11 Air Mini
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Power Supply	Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000W 80+ Platinum White
Mouse	Zowie EC3-C
Keyboard	Vortex Multix 87 Winter TKL (Gateron G Pro Yellow)
Software	Win 10 LTSC 21H2

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Processor	3900X
Motherboard	ASRock Taichi X570
Cooling	Water
Memory	32GB GSkill CL16 3600mhz
Video Card(s)	Vega 56
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Display(s)	3440 x 1440
Case	Thermaltake Tower 900
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime Ultra Platinum

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Memory	PAtriot Viper Elite RGB 96GB @ 6000MHz.
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Storage	Addlink S95 M.2 PCIe GEN 4x4 2TB
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