Hi! I recenty ordered a AMD 64 5000+ Black Edition (2x512Kb L2 cache) dual core CPU for about 125€ and when I got it I realized that a Intel Q6600 quad core (4x2Mb L2 cache) costs "only" about the double. So I couldn´t resist to send the AMD back and to buy an Intel. How can AMD leak back so much in L2 Cache - no wonder that they are in trouble. For example the just released 5000+ Black Edition CPU they hope to make them big bugs which is only having 1Mb of L2 Cache - not worth bying as enthusiast even with an unlocked multiplier. AMD not having a qual core CPU ready to sell by now on the western worlds markets is a shame too.