i5 8400 or Ryzen 1600

kurosagi01 · Oct 17, 2017

I am watching this thread as i am debating between i5 8400/8600k vs 1600/1600x next year or get a used i7 4790.

wurschti · Oct 17, 2017

R0H1T said:
Actually the multiplier goes down to 39 when you OC the BCLK, CPUz is right, core temp is likely reporting the wrong frequency. I've seen this elsewhere as well, all this just to get a 100 or 200 MHz OC is not worth it IMO.

I'd get the 8400 as a low(er) power option, for sure, if I want something slightly more powerful I'd pick the 1600 & also because I like to OC.

Yep, that's a great choice. Also the upgrade path is open for much longer than Intels.

R0H1T · Oct 17, 2017

kurosagi01 said:
I am watching this thread as i am debating between i5 8400/8600k vs 1600/1600x next year or get a used i7 4790.

Well if you aren't in any hurry, just wait for AMD's PR & the rumored 8c CFL. There's very good chance you'll get even better VFM next year.

hat · Oct 17, 2017

I'd go with the i5 8400, but I'd be waiting until the cheap motherboards come out. No reason to put that chip in a high end z370 board.

Of course this socket/chipset is most likely already at a dead end, but will you really be upgrading that soon anyway?

dj-electric · Oct 17, 2017

R0H1T said:
They will because they are specced for it, but even Intel will not back them to run @3.8 on all cores all the time.

And again, They will. All CPUs have the same frequency settings. Not one Kaby lake decided to go bellow the others in working requency just because. Even though they all ran higher than intel's official spec

eidairaman1 · Oct 17, 2017

If you oc I wouldn't spend on intel for a non k part at all, you are just limiting yourself. Intel swiches sockets almost yearly now.

I'd Honestly say AM4, Skt 2066, or TR4 would be a better choice...

Vya Domus · Oct 17, 2017

Get the 1600 with a decent B350 motherboard and OC it. Best perf/price ratio no question about , you also a get a CPU that's more capable in general not just in games.

Or wait and see what the Zen refresh brings , I don't expect much but might be worthwhile.

Cvrk said:
i5 for the love of GOD! Cuz i lost the again....first it was with Amd RX series and the useless FreeSync. and now with the new 1700x, witch is also useless.
When will i ever learn ?! Problem is.... nobody kinda supports. They just argue on no valid facts. In the end the decision is just yours. I watched so many reviews, decided to go with Amd... and i was wrong!
Amd sucks! Intel is the only way to go.

Troll much ? Or am I missing something ? Your comment makes 0 sense.

Cvrk · Oct 18, 2017

Frick said:
Why's the 1700X useless?

Not the Ryzen 1700x. More like Amd as a company. Strange enough i had the same exact problems as Dmitry, with the exceptions of the external drives (cuz i don't own this). Nothing works on amd platform,and if it does it's only buy pure luck. Starting your computer one morning just to see it does not recognize your ssd... this is the sadness of amd. I don't need workarounds, and solutions. I want a pc that just works. Intel is that pc . For the past decade everything has been made for Intel, if you got amd you're just hoping things will fit in and eventually work.

GreiverBlade · Oct 18, 2017

urk .... i would consider an option to a 1600/1600X only if it was a 8600K, since i would come from a 6600K tho for the price i would prefer to have 6C/12T instead of 6C/6T

and changing mobo for changing mobo .... i rather go with the one that would support the next refresh :laugh:

Frick said:
But yeah the i5 8400 is a beast, and it's a wee bit cheaper than the 1600.

beast ... are overrated (the use of the term "is a beast", is ) price consistency is also overrated .... the 8400 is as much as a 1600X where i live .... the 8600K is bound to be close to a 1700X and the 1600 is "the best budget CPU offering 6core and SMT"
tho if the 8400 was a "wee bit" (3€? really? well that's the price difference i see atm outside Switzerland) cheaper for me too ... i would still go for the 1600 because 6C/12T and 16mb vs 9mb (even if HT/SMT are not really that useful ) and same TDP (or 1600X since 30w more is not that big ... that was rather what i expected for the 1600 alone .... since my 6600K is a 95w )

as far as looking benchmark .... i don't like biiiig result panel that make a 0.1-5-10fps difference seems worlds apart :laugh:

ofc if i had to choose between a 8600K and a 8400 ... i would go 8400, not much difference for the overprice

but for the moment i would go AMD for the sake of supporting them (ok not GPU wise tho ... but for CPU they did a real good coming back even against CL that came after) and also because, even if my main domain is gaming ... i never know when i could fall into Ryzen's predilection domain (Rendering streaming encoding, etc etc etc )

Gmr_Chick · Oct 18, 2017

Cvrk said:
Nothing works on amd platform,and if it does it's only buy pure luck. Starting your computer one morning just to see it does not recognize your ssd... this is the sadness of amd. I don't need workarounds, and solutions. I want a pc that just works. Intel is that pc . For the past decade everything has been made for Intel, if you got amd you're just hoping things will fit in and eventually work.

Are you serious right now? How is this specifically AMD's fault? LOTS of things could have caused that SSD to not be recognized, and this scenario is probably FAR more likely than it being specifically AMD's fault. But, right, I keep forgetting how you operate - simply blame AMD for everything, Intel is GOD, etc.,etc. :rolleyes:

Apocalypsee · Oct 18, 2017

hat said:
I'd go with the i5 8400, but I'd be waiting until the cheap motherboards come out. No reason to put that chip in a high end z370 board.

Of course this socket/chipset is most likely already at a dead end, but will you really be upgrading that soon anyway?

I second this opinion. You better wait for a cheaper Coffee Lake motherboard. As you wait, Zen+ and/or Raven Ridge would be out/close to launch. You made a decision from there.

cucker tarlson · Oct 18, 2017

Gmr_Chick said:
Are you serious right now? How is this specifically AMD's fault? LOTS of things could have caused that SSD to not be recognized, and this scenario is probably FAR more likely than it being specifically AMD's fault. But, right, I keep forgetting how you operate - simply blame AMD for everything, Intel is GOD, etc.,etc.

to be completely fair, not recognozing ssds will probably have to do with a buggy bios.
I kinda feel Cvrk. back in april I had a friend build himself a new system. I told him to go with R5 1600, X370 Prime and Corsair LPX DDR4. I said to him "you're gonna love this over the years, this is so much better for the future, just wait for the bios updaes and software patches". It's now been several months and he's still dealing with the bugs that plagued him since day one. He can't use his 3000MHz ram at marketed speed, 2933 works but has negative scaling (less fps rather than more in cpu intensive benches), and he's stuck at 15x multiplier if he tries to OC and change voltages. Sounds like AMD's fault to me.

GreiverBlade · Oct 18, 2017

as much as i hate rumor .... i wouldn't wait on cheaper intel mobo ... :laugh:

latest rumor : the 350 series will make the CPU slower than if used with a 370 (probably/certainly just a rumor ... but who know .... it's Intel )

tho ... i doubt the "cheaper" from Intel would be cheaper than a B350 (or even a X370) also don't forget that even with a mere B350, you still have around 80% of a X370 (and still full OC settings, even if the potential is a little "weak" with Ryzen), while a B250 is rather a 55-60% of a Z270 and no OC potential (probably same "limitations" for 3XX )

also even the cheapest Ryzen is unlocked unlike the non K Intel

cucker tarlson said:
to be completely fair, not recognozing ssds will probably have to do with a buggy bios.
I kinda feel Cvrk. back in april I had a friend build himself a new system. I told him to go with R5 1600, X370 Prime and Corsair LPX DDR4. I said to him "you're gonna love this over the years, this is so much better for the future, just wait for the bios updaes and software patches". It's now been several months and he's still dealing with the bugs that plagued him since day one. He can't use his 3000MHz ram at marketed speed, 2933 works but has negative scaling (less fps rather than more in cpu intensive benches), and he's stuck at 15x multiplier if he tries to OC and change voltages. Sounds like AMD's fault to me.

well .... between 2 user with the same hardware but one has an issue and the other has none .... either it's a situation of luck .... or a user issue ....

i guess my friends are lucky then ... (they are QVL active reader i have to say .... and i am their counselor/assembler

)

btw i had the sames issues from time to time buuuuttt ... as much with Intel than AMD (if not a little bit more ...) do i say/write "intel sucks" or put the blame on them? nay .... not my style ... (let say a buggy bios release is the mobo manufacturer's fault usually)

Gmr_Chick · Oct 18, 2017

cucker tarlson said:
to be completely fair, not recognozing ssds will probably have to do with a buggy bios.
I kinda feel Cvrk. back in april I had a friend build himself a new system. I told him to go with R5 1600, X370 Prime and Corsair LPX DDR4. I said to him "you're gonna love this over the years, this is so much better for the future, just wait for the bios updaes and software patches". It's now been several months and he's still dealing with the bugs that plagued him since day one. He can't use his 3000MHz ram at marketed speed, 2933 works but has negative scaling (less fps rather than more in cpu intensive benches), and he's stuck at 15x multiplier if he tries to OC and change voltages. Sounds like AMD's fault to me.

Actually, I'd blame it more on the company that makes the motherboard, as they are the ones putting out the actual BIOS. Plus, keep in mind, the AM4 platform, while having greatly improved stability-wise now compared to launch, is still new and maturing. I understand that's not an excuse, but people can't tell me they weren't expecting problems with it. That's why it's crucial that people keep their BIOS updated, especially when dealing with a completely new platform. Of course, sometimes said updates can actually break more than they fix...

Melvis · Oct 19, 2017

Id vote the Ryzen, it might not be as quick in games until you over clock it but overall its a better CPU and the platform is more future proof at this stage anyway.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/intel-core-i5-8600k-processor-review,1.html

mad1394 · Oct 19, 2017

8400 wins the out of the box battle in gaming performance. Also if AMD does change its socket for Zen2 I will lmao. Platform platform platform..."you can keep your am4 motherboard for the next 10 years"
You should learn not to trust what companies promise. I learned my lesson from MSI earlier.

Loosenut · Oct 19, 2017

Melvis said:
Id vote the Ryzen, it might not be as quick in games until you over clock it but overall its a better CPU and the platform is more future proof at this stage anyway.

^My thoughts exactly

eidairaman1 · Oct 19, 2017

AMD has kept up with CPU updates for old sockets, AM2+ CPUs could work in many AM2 mobos, same with AM3+CPUs in AM3 sockets.

Ryzen+ , Ryzen 2, Ryzen 3, Ryzen 4, (Ryzen 2+, 3+, 4+, 5, 5+ all speculative) I see AMD improving the cpus while giving older board users upgrades.

Durvelle27 · Oct 19, 2017

I vote Ryzen

lyndonguitar · Oct 19, 2017

i just read this review earlier, and this says that the 8400 is way faster than 1600x,. https://www.techspot.com/review/1505-intel-core-8th-gen-vs-amd-ryzen/page4.html

GreiverBlade · Oct 19, 2017

lyndonguitar said:
i just read this review earlier, and this says that the 8400 is way faster than 1600x,. https://www.techspot.com/review/1505-intel-core-8th-gen-vs-amd-ryzen/page4.html

~~mmhhhh.....? the average is different...~~

slight error in the pictures, tho my following thought remain

even for 1080p or above .... the minima fps of the 1600/1600X is not "way under" nor is the max (as long as it's above 100fps and the difference doesn't exceed 30)

mad1394 · Oct 19, 2017

This is the image I am seeing at the end of the article...where did you get that from?

dirtyferret · Oct 19, 2017

Melvis said:
Id vote the Ryzen, it might not be as quick in games until you over clock it but overall its a better CPU and the platform is more future proof at this stage anyway.

lol, how well was the phenom II x 6, bulldozer and piledriver in future proofing. This is th estandard AMD response, it doesn't work great but down the road it will because we all know technology gets quicker as it ages... :kookoo:

dirtyferret · Oct 19, 2017

kurosagi01 said:
I am watching this thread as i am debating between i5 8400/8600k vs 1600/1600x next year or get a used i7 4790.

For gaming; the i7-4790 (I assumed OC), i5-8400 and Ryzen 1600 (avoid the 1600x unless you don't want to OC then avoid the 1600) will offer the same ballpark performance and all will most likely need a platform upgrade around the same time. If you need more multi-threaded performance the Ryzen chips have an edge there.

My personal opinion if I was going to wait a year; all the chips are overkill for modern gaming yet none really wow you like the 2500k when it came out. If I could score a used i7-4790 system I would and avoid paying for the current state of overpriced DDR4 ram and video cards. I would see if AMD can actually create a chip with better IPC then Ryzen or will they just release re-branded Ryzen chips with a slight OC (think pilederiver chips). I would also see if Intel can create a chip with better IPC as their current releases have been lateral improvements since skylake.

Otherwise most sites like PCgamer, techspot, and TPU are calling the i5-8400 the best gaming chip on the current market. If I could secure one without paying a premium for it I would go in that direction. You can always have an upgrade path to 8700 down the road as all Ryzen CPUs offer the same gaming performance from 1600 on once you hit the same frequency.

lyndonguitar · Oct 19, 2017

mad1394 said:
This is the image I am seeing at the end of the article...where did you get that from?

Griever's screenshot is weird AF. it's like there was a switcheroo to favor the Ryzen. even the 1800X was switched to be BETTER than 7700k and 8700k, which we know it isn't(in gaming). Gonna read the article again

EDIT: Reading the comments, there was a mistake in the average pics, Griever seemed to have seen the wrong version, they have since corrected it, displaying that 8400 > 1600 that I was saying

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Video Card(s)	better rasterization than yours
Storage	more ample than yours
Display(s)	increased pixels than yours
Case	fancier than yours
Audio Device(s)	further audible than yours
Power Supply	additional amps x volts than yours
Mouse	without as much gnawing as yours
Keyboard	less clicky than yours
VR HMD	not as odd looking as yours
Software	extra mushier than yours
Benchmark Scores	up yours