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He's referring to Intel's recent 28 core PR stunt with chilled water (is that not obvious?)

Edit: maybe I misunderstood? Oh well, my bad, carry on. Off topic anyway as you point out, sorry.
 
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Yeah...except that's not what he was referring to...when that was referred to. Soooo...:wtf:

We should probably stop this cycle of stupidity now. Before it goes way too far...:roll:
 
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I still would like to see temps and voltages.



https://www.anandtech.com/show/12945/the-intel-core-i7-8086k-review/3
 
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What a joke. If Intel had fixed the TIM issue, it would hit 5 GHz all core with air cooling no problem.

Thermals don’t seem to be the culprit.
 
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I got my cpu, motherboard on the way, but I'm traveling soon, won't finish the build for a while, sigh. Need a new hsf cooler!!!
 
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What line is that ?
My comment was refering to a WB (Water Block for CPU ) and a Chiller ( Water Cooling Chiller which
Knoxx29 Has for his Current Main System ).

Ah I thought it was a reference to the Intel 28 core demo :)
 

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Thermals don’t seem to be the culprit.

Uhm several tests shows 90C+ at 5 GHz and Guru3D (I think it was) had 98C at 5.1 GHz... using 240m aio
 
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It's definitely a killer chip, and for the price it's cheaper than getting a binned 8700

It costs $130 more here over the 8700k, I cant see that as been "cheaper" Waste of money in my eyes
 

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It costs $130 more here over the 8700k, I cant see that as been "cheaper" Waste of money in my eyes

Of course it cost more than the 8700K, today you get a 8700K for 340€ or maybe a little less but when it was released it cost 450€+ depending where you ordered it, Intel makes you pay what they printed on the box of the i7-8086K ( Limited Edition )
 
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It costs $130 more here over the 8700k, I cant see that as been "cheaper" Waste of money in my eyes
For similarly binned chips from somewhere like silicon lottery its upwards of 6-700$ for a chip that can reach the same clocks.

Thermals don’t seem to be the culprit.
At least after doing a bios update on my Maximus X it seemed to drop cpu temps (only thing I can think of is a new profile for voltage or something) by upwards of about 15C. Before at 50 it was running ~85C and after patch it's down to about 60.
 
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Uhm several tests shows 90C+ at 5 GHz and Guru3D (I think it was) had 98C at 5.1 GHz... using 240m aio

I meant for it nonturboing to 5Ghz on a single core. It's not hot when refusing to do that...
 
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I stick with the 8086K as it is a Limited Edition and collectible item, if i want 5.2GHz i would Overclock my 8700K.

Then if you want it as a collectible, what is the point of this thread?
 

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Knoxx29 is a known Intel Fanboy, to the point that I'm pretty sure he won't even consider that an offensive comment (wasn't meant as one man ;) ).

That said, he is not incompetent or stupid, and his testing is still relevant to all of us.
 

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Knoxx29 is a known Intel Fanboy, to the point that I'm pretty sure he won't even consider that an offensive comment (wasn't meant as one man ;) ).

That said, he is not incompetent or stupid, and his testing is still relevant to all of us.

2 weeks or less i have it here, my friend that works at the PC shop is getting one for me and the price is very good plus i am one of their best customer:laugh:
 
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What if I test it or what if i buy too?
I hope you have a better experience than PCPerspective -
"Much to my surprise, even on purely single-threaded workload, such as Cinebench R15 in Single mode, the processor wasn’t getting close to its 5.0GHz Single Core Turbo Boost frequency, in fact, I never saw it get above 4.5GHz. We corroborated these issues with another piece of CPU monitoring software, HWInfo64.

As you can see in the screenshot from XTU, the processor was sitting at a cool 48C while this was going on, and no other alerts such as the motherboard power delivery or current limit throttling were an issue during our testing.

Moving to another motherboard, the ASUS Strix Z370-H Gaming, again on the latest UEFI release, we saw the same behavior.

So far, we have been unable to get this processor to operate at the advertised 5.0GHz Turbo Boost frequency, on a multitude of different hardware and software setups.

However, if we manually overclock the processor, we can get an all-core frequency of 5.1GHz, although with a temperature around 85C."

techreport.com concluded the same -
"As an actual processor, the i7-8086K isn't worth the $75 upcharge over the i7-8700K at stock speeds. Outside of its rarely-seen 5-GHz top Turbo bin, the i7-8086K performs the same as an i7-8700K the vast majority of the time. That's because the rest of its Turbo Boost 2.0 table is identical to the i7-8700K's. There's only so much a chip can do within the same thermal budget. It would have been nice to see Intel really take the leash off this thing and push TDPs or implement something like its Thermal Velocity Boost feature on this chip to truly make it something special for those who don't want to overclock.

The story changes a little—and I do mean a little—when we take advantage of the i7-8086K's unlocked multipliers. It's tricky to recommend a processor on the basis of its overclocking prowess alone, because no two chips will overclock alike. That said, our retail i7-8086K made it to 5.1 GHz on all cores without any AVX offset and nothing more than the usual thermal challenges of modern Intel CPUs. No i7-8700K in our labs can run at speeds higher than 5 GHz for non-AVX workloads, and they require -2 AVX offsets to remain stable.

For all that, the i7-8086K's slightly higher overclock didn't translate into many practical performance benefits in our tests versus a run-of-the-mill 8700K at 5 GHz. Still want to pay that $75 extra?"
 
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Knoxx29 is a known Intel Fanboy, to the point that I'm pretty sure he won't even consider that an offensive comment (wasn't meant as one man ;) ).

That said, he is not incompetent or stupid, and his testing is still relevant to all of us.

Nonetheless, this back and forth polling people's opinions when he's already decided on what he wants to do is going nowhere and pointlessly silly.

What if I test it or what if i buy too?
Proving what everyone already knows? And you bought yourself a new thing...congrats?
 
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I hope you have a better experience than PCPerspective -
"Much to my surprise, even on purely single-threaded workload, such as Cinebench R15 in Single mode, the processor wasn’t getting close to its 5.0GHz Single Core Turbo Boost frequency, in fact, I never saw it get above 4.5GHz. We corroborated these issues with another piece of CPU monitoring software, HWInfo64.

As you can see in the screenshot from XTU, the processor was sitting at a cool 48C while this was going on, and no other alerts such as the motherboard power delivery or current limit throttling were an issue during our testing.

Moving to another motherboard, the ASUS Strix Z370-H Gaming, again on the latest UEFI release, we saw the same behavior.

So far, we have been unable to get this processor to operate at the advertised 5.0GHz Turbo Boost frequency, on a multitude of different hardware and software setups.

However, if we manually overclock the processor, we can get an all-core frequency of 5.1GHz, although with a temperature around 85C."

techreport.com concluded the same -
"As an actual processor, the i7-8086K isn't worth the $75 upcharge over the i7-8700K at stock speeds. Outside of its rarely-seen 5-GHz top Turbo bin, the i7-8086K performs the same as an i7-8700K the vast majority of the time. That's because the rest of its Turbo Boost 2.0 table is identical to the i7-8700K's. There's only so much a chip can do within the same thermal budget. It would have been nice to see Intel really take the leash off this thing and push TDPs or implement something like its Thermal Velocity Boost feature on this chip to truly make it something special for those who don't want to overclock.

The story changes a little—and I do mean a little—when we take advantage of the i7-8086K's unlocked multipliers. It's tricky to recommend a processor on the basis of its overclocking prowess alone, because no two chips will overclock alike. That said, our retail i7-8086K made it to 5.1 GHz on all cores without any AVX offset and nothing more than the usual thermal challenges of modern Intel CPUs. No i7-8700K in our labs can run at speeds higher than 5 GHz for non-AVX workloads, and they require -2 AVX offsets to remain stable.

For all that, the i7-8086K's slightly higher overclock didn't translate into many practical performance benefits in our tests versus a run-of-the-mill 8700K at 5 GHz. Still want to pay that $75 extra?"
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12945/the-intel-core-i7-8086k-review/16
Given the nature of PCs having multiple applications open at once or running in the background, a truely isolated single-core load almost never happens: in fact with our processor we only able to trigger a core to 5.0 GHz unless we set the affinity to a single core. In that respect, the Core i7-8086K is very limited, especially when it commands a premium price ($425) over its nearest rival, which is often sold at much less (8700K at $350 or below)
(image)
In our ‘stock’ results, this analysis bore fruit. In most benchmarks, the 8086K was on par with the 8700K. In a few, like CineBench R15 ST, it took a lead and afforded a new record due to the high frequency, but in others it seemed to perform worse, such as Blender and WinRAR, likely due to the thermal performance and response of our specific chip.

For anyone looking to buy the Core i7-8086K to run it at stock frequencies, save your money. There are better deals elsewhere.

ryan shrout, ken addison and jeff kampman were getting the riot act read to them by Francois Piednoel for not using a motherboard/bios suggested by intel, to which ryan replied:
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francios's tweets weren't protected then, but the way he was being . . .cranky and blunt in the discussion . . well, i am not surprised they are now.

so would a new bios solve the discrepancy? w/intel being very quit on how turbo boost works, i think it's hard to tell w/o reasonable speculation.

not trying to argue (at least not this time), just trying to share what i think i know.
 
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My chip was very picky with it's turbo clocks at stock. It ran at around 4.4 all cores (which its rated to do) and did so at about 60 degrees with a 280mm aio. The point of the chip is not to be some special enhanced performance chip. Does it do 5GHz? Yes. Does this mean anything outside of bragging rights? No. At it's core its an 8700k with some slightly tweaked/bumped clock speeds and its always going to run like that. (hotter, slightly better performing, more power usage) The point of the chip isn't to be used as a system chip, some of them are good at overclocking and would benefit from a delid. However this chip is really meant to be a collectible and I think that's what people should buy it for. (hence why I got mine)
 
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Knoxx29 is a known Intel Fanboy, to the point that I'm pretty sure he won't even consider that an offensive comment (wasn't meant as one man ;) ).

That said, he is not incompetent or stupid, and his testing is still relevant to all of us.
Except that he often defends AMD from an objective perspective. Gotta disagree with this fanboy statement.
 

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System Name Orange! // ItchyHands
Processor 3570K // 10400F
Motherboard ASRock z77 Extreme4 // TUF Gaming B460M-Plus
Cooling Stock // Stock
Memory 2x4Gb 1600Mhz CL9 Corsair XMS3 // 2x8Gb 3200 Mhz XPG D41
Video Card(s) Sapphire Nitro+ RX 570 // Asus TUF RTX 2070
Storage Samsung 840 250Gb // SX8200 480GB
Display(s) LG 22EA53VQ // Philips 275M QHD
Case NZXT Phantom 410 Black/Orange // Tecware Forge M
Power Supply Corsair CXM500w // CM MWE 600w
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