OK... it may be a ghetto idea (sorry if that word offends you) but i think this will work out very good if i can just experiment with it a bit. here's the initial idea... take my lonely old thermochill PA120.1 and suspend it in a old crap cooler and fill it with ice, salt and water. it's been done before. i know. oh well. now this has led me to think a step further and go extreme. if the above setup works good im gonna get dry ice and use antifreeze instead of water in the loop. hopefully i can get this crap setup(not really) to cool better then my TEC block. we shall soon see.