Ideas for next Megabench?

[Space Lynx]

I really just want to see a test similar to the Hardware Unboxed video linked above, but with more than 12 games tested. If I had known DDR5 CL 30 6000 or better ram was such a game changer, I would have never went with my budget DDR4 z690 board. I haven't opened it yet, so I may go to Best Buy in person today and just return it for a full refund and then get a DDR5 board.

 

[ir_cow]

I really just want to see a test similar to the Hardware Unboxed video linked above, but with more than 12 games tested. If I had known DDR5 CL 30 6000 or better ram was such a game changer

Just look at a recent TPU DDR5 memory review. That should give you a good idea where DDR4 stands. DDR5-7200 review is incoming btw. I already managed a OC of DDR5-8000 with a $250 Z790 MB. Yummy CL32

 

[qubit]

I hope W10 ends up faster so we get the WXP situation all over again and frustrate Microsoft lol.

I'd also be interested in the 13700K v the 5800X3D.

 

[Space Lynx]

Just look at a recent TPU DDR5 memory review. That should give you a good idea where DDR4 stands. DDR5-7200 review is incoming btw. I already managed a OC of DDR5-8000 with a $250 Z790 MB. Yummy CL32

I don't know why I never thought of this. @W1zzard nm, I don't need what i requested anymore, your ram minion has got me taken care of!!! moo! cow goes moo!

 

[P4-630]

I'd also be interested in the 13700K v the 5800X3D.

WHen will you pull the upgrade trigger @qubit ?

 

[64K]

I will upgrade my gaming rig to Win 11 from Win 10 if there is a good enough reason.

Having said that, one of my laptops is running Win 10 and the other is running Win 11 and I don't see any difference but I don't game very much on the laptops.

 

[qubit]

WHen will you pull the upgrade trigger @qubit ?

It would be right now with the 13700K, but the British cost of living crisis is tempering it now, alas. I've just upgraded to a fabulous 4K monitor too, see specs, so I have to see the money goes in the next few months.

EDIT: Also, my new Asus G-SYNC compatible monitor (see specs) also makes such an upgrade much less critical, because many games play perfectly smoothly now and at 4K too even without the highest framerates and the lag is really low. Seriously, it feels like I've had a graphics card upgrade. The difference is like night and day.

 

[W1zzard]

Just did some quick number crunching .. and every time I hear 5800X3D has such great 1% lows .. do people realize that 1% lows are virtually identical (relatively) across all these tests?

http://imgur.com/9Mp0BeG

 

[qubit]

Just did some quick number crunching .. and every time I hear 5800X3D has such great 1% lows .. do people realize that 1% lows are virtually identical (relatively) across all these tests?

http://imgur.com/9Mp0BeG

Looks like the GPU is the bottleneck for those lows.

 

[wheresmycar]

Just did some quick number crunching .. and every time I hear 5800X3D has such great 1% lows .. do people realize that 1% lows are virtually identical (relatively) across all these tests?

http://imgur.com/9Mp0BeG

I don't believe i mentioned 1% lows

Now that you've mentioned it - really 1% lows are identical? Bottleneck? I'm seeing diverse results in other reviewer benchmarks or individual games.

 

[W1zzard]

I don't believe i mentioned 1% lows

Now that you've mentioned it - really 1% lows are identical? Bottleneck? I'm seeing diverse results in other reviewer benchmarks or individual games.

It's not my data, it's data from HUB.

Looks like the GPU is the bottleneck for those lows.

RTX 4090 @ 1440p

 

[Calmmo]

aka CPU bottlenecked with a 4090

 

[W1zzard]

Added 7700X vs 5800X3D poll choice

 

[qubit]

RTX 4090 @ 1440p

Then I dunno. Why do you think they're all the same?

 

[OkieDan]

Sometime down the road, how about a small test suite of apps one might use a virtual machine for, tested within said virtual machine. Just a few things such as code compile, zip/unzip performance and some synthetic benchmarks using the 7950x and 13900k tested in VMware Workstation, Virtual Box and HyperV. Might even throw in a browser benchmark run inside the VMs.

 

[qubit]

@Solaris17 what's so funny?

 

[maxfly]

Benchmarking with the 4090 @ 1440 rather than 4k is my guess.

 

[Daven]

What should I test next? Also accepting suggestions if you can think of something other than listed in the poll options

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RTX 4090 & 53 Games: Core i9-13900K vs Ryzen 7 5800X3D Review

Intel's new 13900K offers amazing gaming performance, thanks to improvements to caches, IPC and higher operating frequencies. But is that enough to beat the 3DV Cache-powered AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D? What about platform cost?

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RTX 4090 & 53 Games: Ryzen 7 5800X vs Ryzen 7 5800X3D Review

How much performance can you gain with Ryzen 7 5800X3D over the non-3DV Cache Ryzen 7 5800X when using the mighty GeForce RTX 4090? Our review has the answer, we test 53 games at three resolutions.

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RTX 4090 & 53 Games: Ryzen 7 5800X vs Core i9-12900K Review

We test the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 with 53 games at three resolutions, comparing the AMD Ryzen 7 5800X against the Intel Core i9-12900K. The idea here is to get a feel for how much graphics performance is lost by a weaker processor.

www.techpowerup.com

I’m not sure why I need to suggest this since it seems obvious but AMDs flagship processor, the 7950x, should be tested along with the current(13900k) and last gen (12900k) Intel processors.

 

[Xeanoa]

I would like to see some testing done regarding background tasks running. For example, run a clean bench setup, vs the same setup with a lot of stuff running on the side.

An example from personal use:
I have a game on my primary display. On my second display, I have Edge open with 4 windows, one of them running a Twitch stream I've been watching. Simultaneously, in another Window, I watch a Youtube video or have a Wiki open with info about the game. On my third display, I have two chat clients open, Discord and Chatty. Occasionally a dedicated game server, e.g. for Terraria, Valheim, Factorio or Eco. In the background, I have various programs running, AB+RTSS, Aquasuite, Synapse/GHUB, Wave Link, Steam, GOG.

Now, all of that isn't a lot of CPU load by itself. Task manager will report something between 2-7 % most of the time, still at low or idle clocks.
But when I run CB R23 MT, I notice that it costs me 1000-2000 points of score. When I run ST, it can be anywhere from 20-40 points lower. So the impact is measurable.
Now I know that it is very hard to create a setup where the background noise is reproducible. Update checks can happen at random times, and while a Youtube video will be the same every time, you don't know what the site does in the background, and Twitch streams by their nature will always be different. But I also don't think it matters to have the exactly same noise for every run, it will eventually average out.

I would like to know how much it drags down your average FPS, if it affects 1 % lows poorly, or if some games just don't care, while others take very negatively to it.

 

[Wasteland]

I would like to see some testing done regarding background tasks running. For example, run a clean bench setup, vs the same setup with a lot of stuff running on the side.

An example from personal use:
I have a game on my primary display. On my second display, I have Edge open with 4 windows, one of them running a Twitch stream I've been watching. Simultaneously, in another Window, I watch a Youtube video or have a Wiki open with info about the game. On my third display, I have two chat clients open, Discord and Chatty. Occasionally a dedicated game server, e.g. for Terraria, Valheim, Factorio or Eco. In the background, I have various programs running, AB+RTSS, Aquasuite, Synapse/GHUB, Wave Link, Steam, GOG.

Now, all of that isn't a lot of CPU load by itself. Task manager will report something between 2-7 % most of the time, still at low or idle clocks.
But when I run CB R23 MT, I notice that it costs me 1000-2000 points of score. When I run ST, it can be anywhere from 20-40 points lower. So the impact is measurable.
Now I know that it is very hard to create a setup where the background noise is reproducible. Update checks can happen at random times, and while a Youtube video will be the same every time, you don't know what the site does in the background, and Twitch streams by their nature will always be different. But I also don't think it matters to have the exactly same noise for every run, it will eventually average out.

I would like to know how much it drags down your average FPS, if it affects 1 % lows poorly, or if some games just don't care, while others take very negatively to it.

And the followup for more, if you're interested: