• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

If a guy wanted to game with a AMD cpu ...

Status
Not open for further replies.

de.das.dude

Pro Indian Modder
Joined
Jun 13, 2010
Messages
8,203 (2.95/day)
Likes
2,394
Location
Pune
System Name la de da... | Samsung NP355V5C-S05IN
Processor FX 8320 | AMD A8-4500
Motherboard ASRock 990FX Extreme 4 | Samsung something something
Cooling CM Hyper 212 EVO push:pull+ 1 panaflow 113CFM + 2 x 120mm NZXTs | Coolermaster Notepal
Memory 2x4GB DDR3 Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz CL9 | Samsunng 4GB + 2GB DDR3 1600MHz
Video Card(s) AMD 7790 GHZ edition! | 7670M + 7640G
Storage 1TB WD10EZEX | W.D 500GB Green AADS | Samsung 1TB
Display(s) dell S2240l 1080p IPS 21.5" | Samsung antiglare 15.6"
Case NZXT Guardian 921RB(@home) and Antec ASK4000B U3(Current)
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC892 with THX True Studio | Realtek something
Power Supply Corsair GS600 | 90W Brick, 6 cell 48000mAh battery
Mouse Logitech G400, GOD TIER MOUSE!! LOGitech F310 gamepad!
Keyboard Logitech K200
Software Windows 8.1 x64 | Windows 8.1 x64
Benchmark Scores real men do bench presses not bench marks.
#26
About the same as FX-8350.

http://www.hardware.fr/medias/photos_news/00/39/IMG0039507.png

http://www.hardware.fr/medias/photos_news/00/39/IMG0039505.png

http://www.behardware.com/articles/880-17/amd-fx-8350-review-is-amd-back.html

It's been said many time before and can be repeated again. FX is not for gaming. It's for rendering/archiving/encoding, etc. Not for 24/7 use though because of power consumption.
lay off the crack. and as for anandtech, they are always biased towards intel.
 

cdawall

where the hell are my stars
Joined
Jul 23, 2006
Messages
26,755 (6.37/day)
Likes
7,660
Location
Houston
System Name Team Blue
Processor 5960X@4.8 1.42v
Motherboard Asus X99M-WS
Cooling EK Supremecy EVO, MCR220-Stack+MCR220+MCR320, D5-PWM+EK X-RES 140
Memory 4x8GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200 CL16
Video Card(s) (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's+ EVGA reference 1080Ti soon to be under water
Storage Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB
Display(s) Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz
Case Caselabs Mercury S5
Audio Device(s) Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood
Power Supply Seasonic Prime 1200w
Mouse Thermaltake Theron
Keyboard Thermaltake Poseidon ZX
Software W10P
Benchmark Scores Zoom zoom mofo
#27
Actually the I3 Ivy Bridge performs about the same as the FX Piledriver in gaming.
Actually the i5 and i7 perform about as good as the i3 as well so why do people buy those more expensive intel i5's and i7's when an i3 performs just as good in the games when it performs the same as the FX chips? You are digging a hole right now and there are actually some quite funny reviews on youtube about the FX 8350 and gaming. Metro 2033 there is a 10FPS jump between the 8350 from a 3570/3770/3820 in the FX series chips benefit. Heck if you like to stream video as well the 8350 makes all the same chips look like junk as well in all games including the wonderful Skyrim people like to compare.

As for power consumption again who the heck cares if you want to save 70 watts buy a freaking raspberry pi.
 
Joined
Jul 22, 2008
Messages
708 (0.20/day)
Likes
93
Location
midway city ca
System Name ROG MACHINE
Processor Ryzen 7 1800x
Motherboard Crosshair vi Hero
Cooling Corsair hydro H115i
Memory corsair vengeance rgb 32gb 4x8gb ddr4
Video Card(s) asus rog strix 1080
Storage samsung 960 evo 1tb m.2/mushkin reactor 1tb ssd/ 3x toshiba 3tb hdd
Display(s) Acer 4k monitor
Case corsair obsidian 750d
Power Supply corsair AX 1200i 1200 watt psu
Mouse coolermaster sentinel
Keyboard corsair k70
Software windows 10 pro 64bit
#28
i can see another intel amd war lol
 
Joined
May 18, 2010
Messages
3,416 (1.22/day)
Likes
1,049
System Name My baby
Processor Athlon II X4 620 @ 3.5GHz, 1.45v, NB @ 2700Mhz, HT @ 2700Mhz - 24hr prime95 stable
Motherboard Asus M4A785TD-V EVO
Cooling Sonic Tower Rev 2 with 120mm Akasa attached, Akasa @ Front, Xilence Red Wing 120mm @ Rear
Memory 16 GB G.Skills 1600Mhz
Video Card(s) ATI ASUS Crossfire 5850
Storage Samsung 1Tb EcoGreen hard drive
Display(s) Hanngs-G 19"
Case Antec VSK 2000 Black Tower Case
Audio Device(s) Onkyo TX-SR309 Receiver, 2x Kef Cresta 1, 1x Kef Center 20c
Power Supply OCZ StealthXstream II 600w, 4x12v/18A, 80% efficiency.
Software Windows Vista X64
#29
So i was imagining things when i played caspiam border with 64 players? Or did the performance drop when the game hit retail?
Your idea gaming isn't the norm. Some people are OK with 20FPS. If that's you fine. I've actually came from an overclocked 4850 series, so very similar to the 4870 and it's performance was dreadful in BF3. Dropping in my 5850 was the difference between low detail / poor frame rate. To high detail / good frame rate in BF3.

Don't worry RCoon, Ghost won't reply to you lol.

In all seriousness, reviews which say FX are not for gaming are talking relative to Ivy Bridge I5 and i7, but that doesnt mean it isnt capable or cant compete with the lesser i3.

Actually the i5 and i7 perform about as good as the i3 as well so why do people buy those more expensive intel i5's and i7's when an i3 performs just as good in the games when it performs the same as the FX chips?


That is a very blanket statement. Gamers buy the i5 and i7 over the i3 beause of the advantage it has in new multi threaded games, the same reason why gamers should buy the FX series over the i3. Now, that doesnt mean the i3 can't compete with the i5, i7 or FX series in single threaded games or lesser optimised multithreaded games too.
 

cdawall

where the hell are my stars
Joined
Jul 23, 2006
Messages
26,755 (6.37/day)
Likes
7,660
Location
Houston
System Name Team Blue
Processor 5960X@4.8 1.42v
Motherboard Asus X99M-WS
Cooling EK Supremecy EVO, MCR220-Stack+MCR220+MCR320, D5-PWM+EK X-RES 140
Memory 4x8GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200 CL16
Video Card(s) (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's+ EVGA reference 1080Ti soon to be under water
Storage Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB
Display(s) Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz
Case Caselabs Mercury S5
Audio Device(s) Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood
Power Supply Seasonic Prime 1200w
Mouse Thermaltake Theron
Keyboard Thermaltake Poseidon ZX
Software W10P
Benchmark Scores Zoom zoom mofo
#30
That is a very blanket statement. Gamers buy the i5 and i7 over the i3 beause of the advantage it has in new multi threaded games, the same reason why gamers should buy the FX series over the i3. Now, that doesnt mean the i3 can't compete with the i5, i7 or FX series in single threaded games or lesser optimised multithreaded games too.
It's a blanket statement to say the FX sucks at gaming yet it may as well be plastered on the front page of TPU. In new multithreaded games the FX series is better so I ask you what are you buying a new CPU for single threaded junk from 3-4 years ago that I can play on my netbook or new games like Metro, Crysis 3, Dirt all of which actually use more than 2-4 cores?

10 FPS over the 3770K in Metro 2033 isn't exactly something to shake a stick considering it was going from 20FPS to 30FPS. That's not playable to playable.

The $180 FX series octa-core chip is a bloody bargain and anyone to dense to see that may as well own a crapple.
 
Joined
May 18, 2010
Messages
3,416 (1.22/day)
Likes
1,049
System Name My baby
Processor Athlon II X4 620 @ 3.5GHz, 1.45v, NB @ 2700Mhz, HT @ 2700Mhz - 24hr prime95 stable
Motherboard Asus M4A785TD-V EVO
Cooling Sonic Tower Rev 2 with 120mm Akasa attached, Akasa @ Front, Xilence Red Wing 120mm @ Rear
Memory 16 GB G.Skills 1600Mhz
Video Card(s) ATI ASUS Crossfire 5850
Storage Samsung 1Tb EcoGreen hard drive
Display(s) Hanngs-G 19"
Case Antec VSK 2000 Black Tower Case
Audio Device(s) Onkyo TX-SR309 Receiver, 2x Kef Cresta 1, 1x Kef Center 20c
Power Supply OCZ StealthXstream II 600w, 4x12v/18A, 80% efficiency.
Software Windows Vista X64
#31
About the same as FX-8350.

http://www.hardware.fr/medias/photos_news/00/39/IMG0039507.png

http://www.hardware.fr/medias/photos_news/00/39/IMG0039505.png

http://www.behardware.com/articles/880-17/amd-fx-8350-review-is-amd-back.html

It's been said many time before and can be repeated again. FX is not for gaming. It's for rendering/archiving/encoding, etc. Not for 24/7 use though because of power consumption.

OK I'm looking at YOUR links


Application Average: (specific to 3D games)

FX 8350 - 171 FPS
Core i3-3240 - 95.6 FPS
core i3-2130 - 92.1 FPS.

3D Games Average

FX 8350 - 128.5 FPS
Core i3 3240 - 131.1 FPS
Core i3 2130 - 125.6 FPS

Your own website shows the FX is as fast or faster than the i3.


10 FPS over the 3770K in Metro 2033 isn't exactly something to shake a stick considering it was going from 20FPS to 30FPS. That's not playable to playable.
I agree, if we're talking about a high tier 3770K vs the FX in gaming. But The FX X6 and X8 seems more than capable of competing with the i3 in gaming today.
 
Last edited:

cdawall

where the hell are my stars
Joined
Jul 23, 2006
Messages
26,755 (6.37/day)
Likes
7,660
Location
Houston
System Name Team Blue
Processor 5960X@4.8 1.42v
Motherboard Asus X99M-WS
Cooling EK Supremecy EVO, MCR220-Stack+MCR220+MCR320, D5-PWM+EK X-RES 140
Memory 4x8GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200 CL16
Video Card(s) (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's+ EVGA reference 1080Ti soon to be under water
Storage Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB
Display(s) Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz
Case Caselabs Mercury S5
Audio Device(s) Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood
Power Supply Seasonic Prime 1200w
Mouse Thermaltake Theron
Keyboard Thermaltake Poseidon ZX
Software W10P
Benchmark Scores Zoom zoom mofo
#32
OK I'm looking at YOUR links

Application Average: (specific to 3D games)

FX 8350 - 171 FPS
Core i5-3770k - 181.9
Core i5-3570k - 149.4
Core i3-3240 - 95.6 FPS
core i3-2130 - 92.1 FPS.

3D Games Average

FX 8350 - 128.5 FPS
Core i3 3240 - 131.1 FPS
Core i3 2130 - 125.6 FPS

Your own website shows the FX is as fast or faster than the i3.
Added some stuff in there since we are saying the i3 is faster. If it is faster I guess the i5/i7 suck.

Wait lets quote his article too.

This is very good indeed when you consider that the FX-8350 is cheaper than the i5-3570K at the same time as being a good deal faster in applications!
Now look specifically at the games tested and you will notice the vast majority seem cherry picked as they are not multithreaded titles.



Weird this isn't even a well multithreaded game...yet not slow...
 
Joined
Aug 31, 2010
Messages
274 (0.10/day)
Likes
85
Location
Unknown
System Name ASAS
Processor Intel Core i5 2500K @ 4.2 GHz
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z68A-D3-B3
Cooling Scythe Ashura
Memory Patriot 2x4GB DDR3 1600MHz 9-9-9-24 T1 @ 1.5V
Video Card(s) MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Gaming
Storage Samsung 830 256GB + Samsung Spinpoint T133 HD400LJ 400GB
Display(s) Samsung SyncMaster EX1920
Case Bitfenix Ghost
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC889
Power Supply Seasonic S12II-620 Bronze 620W
Software Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1
#33
OK I'm looking at YOUR links


Application Average: (specific to 3D games)

FX 8350 - 171 FPS
Core i3-3240 - 95.6 FPS
core i3-2130 - 92.1 FPS.

3D Games Average

FX 8350 - 128.5 FPS
Core i3 3240 - 131.1 FPS
Core i3 2130 - 125.6 FPS

Your own website shows the FX is as fast or faster than the i3.




I agree, if we're talking about a high tier 3770K vs the FX in gaming. But The FX X6 and X8 seems more than capable of competing with the i3 in gaming today.
You don't even understand those charts.

'Applications average' chart doesn't include games at all. It's application performance. I did say FX is good in these sort of things.

'3D games average' chart includes only games (1920x1080, max settings). And here AMD's fastest, expensive and power hungry FX performs at i3 level.

These are the two facts I stated in the first place.
 

cdawall

where the hell are my stars
Joined
Jul 23, 2006
Messages
26,755 (6.37/day)
Likes
7,660
Location
Houston
System Name Team Blue
Processor 5960X@4.8 1.42v
Motherboard Asus X99M-WS
Cooling EK Supremecy EVO, MCR220-Stack+MCR220+MCR320, D5-PWM+EK X-RES 140
Memory 4x8GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200 CL16
Video Card(s) (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's+ EVGA reference 1080Ti soon to be under water
Storage Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB
Display(s) Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz
Case Caselabs Mercury S5
Audio Device(s) Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood
Power Supply Seasonic Prime 1200w
Mouse Thermaltake Theron
Keyboard Thermaltake Poseidon ZX
Software W10P
Benchmark Scores Zoom zoom mofo
#34
You don't even understand those charts.

'Applications average' chart doesn't include games at all. It's application performance. I did say FX is good in these sort of things.

'3D games average' chart includes only games (1920x1080, max settings). And here AMD's fastest, expensive and power hungry FX performs at i3 level.

These are the two facts I stated in the first place.
At best it is a piss poor grouping of games there is next to nothing that utilizes the cores of the FX chip. Heck the benchmark Skyrim to show CPU performance.


[yt]eu8Sekdb-IE[/yt]
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Fourstaff

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Nov 29, 2009
Messages
9,382 (3.15/day)
Likes
2,103
Location
Home
System Name Asus K50-X5DAB \\ Orange!
Processor Athlon QL-65 2.2Ghz \\ 3570K
Motherboard Laptop \\ ASRock z77 Extreme4
Cooling Laptop \\ H100i
Memory 1x1GB + 1X2GB \\ 2x4Gb 1600Mhz CL9 Corsair XMS3
Video Card(s) Mobility Radeon HD4570 512mb \\ Zotac 660Ti OC 2Gb
Storage 250Gb \\ Samsung 840 250Gb + Toshiba DT01ACA300 3Tb
Display(s) 15.6" 1366x768 \\ LG 22EA53VQ
Case Laptop Chassis \\ NZXT Phantom 410 Black/Orange
Power Supply Power Brick \\ Corsair CXM500w
#35
If you seriously think an i3 is better at gaming than an FX6300 ...
Ivy i3's can go toe to toe against the FX6300 in most games (less than 5% difference in most cases), so I don't know where you are heading with this post :<

If you guys continue calling each other names infractions will be handed out.

Please do continue your little argument :toast:
 

RCoon

Gaming Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Apr 19, 2012
Messages
11,406 (5.42/day)
Likes
9,579
Location
Gypsyland, UK
System Name HP Omen 17
Processor i7 7700HQ
Memory 16GB 2400Mhz DDR4
Video Card(s) GTX 1060
Storage Samsung SM961 256GB + HGST 1TB
Display(s) 1080p IPS G-SYNC 75Hz
Audio Device(s) Bang & Olufsen
Power Supply 230W
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD+
Software Win 10 Pro
#36
Come on guys i was in a meeting for an hour and now infractions are being threatened. All the guy wanted to know what if he could game with a budget AMD cpu.
The answer is yes. They ALL perform admirably.
I didnt hear him ask about i3's nor did he express concern about power usage.
Stop answering your own arguements/questions.
 
Joined
May 18, 2010
Messages
3,416 (1.22/day)
Likes
1,049
System Name My baby
Processor Athlon II X4 620 @ 3.5GHz, 1.45v, NB @ 2700Mhz, HT @ 2700Mhz - 24hr prime95 stable
Motherboard Asus M4A785TD-V EVO
Cooling Sonic Tower Rev 2 with 120mm Akasa attached, Akasa @ Front, Xilence Red Wing 120mm @ Rear
Memory 16 GB G.Skills 1600Mhz
Video Card(s) ATI ASUS Crossfire 5850
Storage Samsung 1Tb EcoGreen hard drive
Display(s) Hanngs-G 19"
Case Antec VSK 2000 Black Tower Case
Audio Device(s) Onkyo TX-SR309 Receiver, 2x Kef Cresta 1, 1x Kef Center 20c
Power Supply OCZ StealthXstream II 600w, 4x12v/18A, 80% efficiency.
Software Windows Vista X64
#37
You don't even understand those charts.

'Applications average' chart doesn't include games at all. It's application performance. I did say FX is good in these sort of things.

'3D games average' chart includes only games (1920x1080, max settings).
You posted the link. Don't get pissy because the link doesn't show the i3 as impressive as you made out.



And here AMD's fastest, expensive and power hungry FX performs at i3 level.

These are the two facts I stated in the first place.
Put 6 extra cores on the i3 and lets see if it's power hungry too.

Also your chart didn't include the less expensive FX 6300, its NOT expensive and performs at the level of the i3 in gaming too.
 

RCoon

Gaming Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Apr 19, 2012
Messages
11,406 (5.42/day)
Likes
9,579
Location
Gypsyland, UK
System Name HP Omen 17
Processor i7 7700HQ
Memory 16GB 2400Mhz DDR4
Video Card(s) GTX 1060
Storage Samsung SM961 256GB + HGST 1TB
Display(s) 1080p IPS G-SYNC 75Hz
Audio Device(s) Bang & Olufsen
Power Supply 230W
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD+
Software Win 10 Pro
#38
3D Games Average

FX 8350 - 128.5 FPS
Core i3 3240 - 131.1 FPS
Core i3 2130 - 125.6 FPS
Unless OP has a 120hz monitor, who cares.
Show me some minimum fps, that's all that matters
 

de.das.dude

Pro Indian Modder
Joined
Jun 13, 2010
Messages
8,203 (2.95/day)
Likes
2,394
Location
Pune
System Name la de da... | Samsung NP355V5C-S05IN
Processor FX 8320 | AMD A8-4500
Motherboard ASRock 990FX Extreme 4 | Samsung something something
Cooling CM Hyper 212 EVO push:pull+ 1 panaflow 113CFM + 2 x 120mm NZXTs | Coolermaster Notepal
Memory 2x4GB DDR3 Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz CL9 | Samsunng 4GB + 2GB DDR3 1600MHz
Video Card(s) AMD 7790 GHZ edition! | 7670M + 7640G
Storage 1TB WD10EZEX | W.D 500GB Green AADS | Samsung 1TB
Display(s) dell S2240l 1080p IPS 21.5" | Samsung antiglare 15.6"
Case NZXT Guardian 921RB(@home) and Antec ASK4000B U3(Current)
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC892 with THX True Studio | Realtek something
Power Supply Corsair GS600 | 90W Brick, 6 cell 48000mAh battery
Mouse Logitech G400, GOD TIER MOUSE!! LOGitech F310 gamepad!
Keyboard Logitech K200
Software Windows 8.1 x64 | Windows 8.1 x64
Benchmark Scores real men do bench presses not bench marks.
#39
this thread now - >
 

Aquinus

Resident Wat-man
Joined
Jan 28, 2012
Messages
10,528 (4.81/day)
Likes
5,614
Location
Concord, NH
System Name Kratos
Processor Intel Core i7 3930k @ 4.2Ghz
Motherboard ASUS P9X79 Deluxe
Cooling Zalman CPNS9900MAX 130mm
Memory G.Skill DDR3-2133, 16gb (4x4gb) @ 9-11-10-28-108-1T 1.65v
Video Card(s) MSI AMD Radeon R9 390 GAMING 8GB @ PCI-E 3.0
Storage 2x120Gb SATA3 Corsair Force GT Raid-0, 4x1Tb RAID-5, 1x500GB
Display(s) 1x LG 27UD69P (4k), 2x Dell S2340M (1080p)
Case Antec 1200
Audio Device(s) Onboard Realtek® ALC898 8-Channel High Definition Audio
Power Supply Seasonic 1000-watt 80 PLUS Platinum
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Rosewill RK-9100
Software Ubuntu 17.10
Benchmark Scores Benchmarks aren't everything.
#40
Oh, oh, I want to join! :D

You don't even understand those charts.
Actually reading this thread, I think the majority of people do understand these numbers and it's you who is confusing it. Just because a game doesn't run faster than an i3 doesn't mean the full potential of an 8-core CPU is being used. If you're running a game optimized for 2 cores, then you still have 6 cores on the 8320-8350 that can still be used.

The i3 can not over-clock, where the FX chips can. So it's not very hard to eliminate that gap if you really wanted to.

AM3+ motherboards tend to run cheaper than skt1155 CPUs with more features at a similar price point.

'3D games average' chart includes only games (1920x1080, max settings). And here AMD's fastest, expensive and power hungry FX performs at i3 level.
With the i3 running max power. :roll:

You want to multi-task? The i3 will roll over and cringe and the FX chip will hit the ground running.

So let me make some clarifications here that everyone I think needs to hear.

Pro i3 (con FX):

A: The i3 is faster in single-threaded applications due to Intel's better IPC ratio.

B: The i3 has fewer cores so most games that benefit from the i3 will be optimized for dual-core and will have slight gains with more because of hyper-threading.

C: The i3 uses less power, FX uses more.

Con i3 (pro FX):
A: FX has a lot of cores, you can multi-task to your hearts content. You want to encode video while you play a game, have a blast! Do that on an i3 and your rig will cry for mercy. It also prepares you for future games that are heavily multi-threaded.

B: FX can overclock, i3 can not. So this "gap" you describe can be easily closed. Simple as that and by the time you get to the i5 k-edition CPU you've already saved money getting an FX chip.

C: Socket 1155 is approaching their EoL. AM3+ has a little ways to go before AMD replaces it. (I suspect that will happen when DDR4 starts becoming mainstream.) So the only upgrades you can get are other CPUs with similar single-threaded performance on 1155.

So here is the primary reason why I would get an AMD CPU and not an Intel one.
If you get an i3, upgrading to and i5 or i7 will cost a lot of money and give you minimal gains and in the places where you do get gains (optimized beyond dual-core,) the FX chip is going to fly with it. So your targeting a very specific niche of games that aren't optimized for multi-core which are, in all honesty, a dying breed.

So all in all, there is no reason to get an i3 unless your only goal is power consumption and in that case, I will quote cdawall. :)

As for power consumption again who the heck cares if you want to save 70 watts buy a freaking raspberry pi.
 

RCoon

Gaming Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Apr 19, 2012
Messages
11,406 (5.42/day)
Likes
9,579
Location
Gypsyland, UK
System Name HP Omen 17
Processor i7 7700HQ
Memory 16GB 2400Mhz DDR4
Video Card(s) GTX 1060
Storage Samsung SM961 256GB + HGST 1TB
Display(s) 1080p IPS G-SYNC 75Hz
Audio Device(s) Bang & Olufsen
Power Supply 230W
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD+
Software Win 10 Pro
#41
Joined
Jan 21, 2013
Messages
3,800 (2.08/day)
Likes
1,320
System Name Out of the game..
Benchmark Scores d1nky@hwbot.org
#42
I got a really low budget pc and im verrrryyyyy pleased with FX, and who cares about energy consumption, if you did you'd have solar panels! and now I see why i3 compared to 4100 wins all the reviews etc due to single threaded tasks and not multi! :rockout:
 
Joined
Sep 8, 2005
Messages
803 (0.18/day)
Likes
463
Location
Romania
Processor i5-2500K
Motherboard ASRock P67 Extreme4
Cooling Ninja 3 fanless
Memory Corsair 4GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9 XMS3 rev. A
Video Card(s) MSI GeForce GTX 1060 GAMING X 6GB
Storage Intel 535 Series 120GB + WD 6400AAKS
Display(s) Benq EW2420
Case Antec P182
Audio Device(s) Xonar D1
Power Supply Antec Signature 650
Software Win 10
#43
AMD FX-8320 Vishera 125W Eight-Core $179.99
ASRock 970 EXTREME3 $84.99
or
AMD FX-6300 Vishera 95W Six-Core $139.99
ASRock 970 EXTREME3 $84.99
From here:

This allows us to state that AMD FX-8320 is one of the most interesting choices for computer enthusiasts in terms of price-to-performance (multi-threaded).


The six-core Vishera modification, FX-6300, seems to make a pretty weak overall impression at first glance. One of the four dual-core modules in this processor is disabled that is why its peak performance is relatively low compared with Intel’s quad-core processors even under multi-threaded load. This is quite logical, because two contemporary AMD cores are pretty much as fast as one Intel core: this is exactly what we saw throughout our today’s test session.
 

Aquinus

Resident Wat-man
Joined
Jan 28, 2012
Messages
10,528 (4.81/day)
Likes
5,614
Location
Concord, NH
System Name Kratos
Processor Intel Core i7 3930k @ 4.2Ghz
Motherboard ASUS P9X79 Deluxe
Cooling Zalman CPNS9900MAX 130mm
Memory G.Skill DDR3-2133, 16gb (4x4gb) @ 9-11-10-28-108-1T 1.65v
Video Card(s) MSI AMD Radeon R9 390 GAMING 8GB @ PCI-E 3.0
Storage 2x120Gb SATA3 Corsair Force GT Raid-0, 4x1Tb RAID-5, 1x500GB
Display(s) 1x LG 27UD69P (4k), 2x Dell S2340M (1080p)
Case Antec 1200
Audio Device(s) Onboard Realtek® ALC898 8-Channel High Definition Audio
Power Supply Seasonic 1000-watt 80 PLUS Platinum
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Rosewill RK-9100
Software Ubuntu 17.10
Benchmark Scores Benchmarks aren't everything.
#44
As always, my hero.
Someone with an Intel chip (SB-E to be exact) needed to chime in and defend AMD, because honestly if I decided to get a CPU now, I wouldn't have discounted the 8350 over the 3820 as quickly as I did for the 8150.
 
Joined
May 18, 2010
Messages
3,416 (1.22/day)
Likes
1,049
System Name My baby
Processor Athlon II X4 620 @ 3.5GHz, 1.45v, NB @ 2700Mhz, HT @ 2700Mhz - 24hr prime95 stable
Motherboard Asus M4A785TD-V EVO
Cooling Sonic Tower Rev 2 with 120mm Akasa attached, Akasa @ Front, Xilence Red Wing 120mm @ Rear
Memory 16 GB G.Skills 1600Mhz
Video Card(s) ATI ASUS Crossfire 5850
Storage Samsung 1Tb EcoGreen hard drive
Display(s) Hanngs-G 19"
Case Antec VSK 2000 Black Tower Case
Audio Device(s) Onkyo TX-SR309 Receiver, 2x Kef Cresta 1, 1x Kef Center 20c
Power Supply OCZ StealthXstream II 600w, 4x12v/18A, 80% efficiency.
Software Windows Vista X64
#45
Also another great video which seems to show the FX in a very good light in gaming against the higher tier i5.

For power consumption nuts, they worked out that even with lower power consumption you end up paying more on the Intel rig in electricity bill once you factor in the upfront having of the AMD rig.







Hello burebista,


From here:

The six-core Vishera modification, FX-6300, seems to make a pretty weak overall impression at first glance. One of the four dual-core modules in this processor is disabled that is why its peak performance is relatively low compared with Intel’s quad-core processors even under multi-threaded load. This is quite logical, because two contemporary AMD cores are pretty much as fast as one Intel core: this is exactly what we saw throughout our today’s test session.

But that is relative to comparing the FX-6300 to the upper-end i7.

When you look at xbitlabs gaming section you see the FX6300 and i3 is virtually identical in gaming today. Then when you factor in future games the i3 wouldn't stand a chance, then factor in non-gaming tasks the FX 6300 would then further demolish it.

Batman
FX 6300 - 67 / 104 FPS
i3-3240 - 65 / 92 FPS


Borderlands 2
FX 6300 - 58.1 / 67.8 FPS
i3-3240 - 59 / 70.2 FPS


Crysis 2
FX 6300 - 60.1 / 60.4 FPS
i3-3240 - 60.8 / 61.3 FPS


Dirt show down
FX 6300 - 57.9 / 81.1 FPS
i3-3240 - 59.5 / 87 FPS

Farcry 2
FX 6300 - 102.5 / 107 FPS
i3-3240 - 106.5 / 111.9 FPS

Metro 2033
FX 6300 - 28.6 / 94.6 FPS
i3-3240 - 28.6 / 78 FPS

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/fx-8350-8320-6300-4300_6.html :)

As you can see from the results both CPUs perform virtually identical in today's gaming results - I'm just posting the numbers.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Joined
Dec 3, 2009
Messages
1,205 (0.41/day)
Likes
364
Location
The Netherlands
System Name PC || Laptop
Processor AMD FX-9590 || i7 6700HQ
Motherboard Asus Sabertooth 990FX || default
Cooling Corsair H100i Push-Pull + H80i modded onto 290|| Stock
Memory Samsung 30nm 4x4GB @ 1930MHz|| 2x8GB LPDDR3 @ 1600MHz
Video Card(s) AMD R9 290 @ 1175MHz / 1625MHz || Nvidia Geforce 960M
Display(s) Samsung S23A750D 120Hz + others|| 15,6" 1080P
Case Corsair 500R Fans Galore ||
Audio Device(s) Asus Xonar DX/XD ||
Power Supply Corsair AX860i || 120Watt 19V OEM adaptor
Software Win 10 64bit || Win 10 64bit
#46
Lol, that vid make me laugh, they've got a great way of presenting things:)
 

Mussels

Moderprator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 6, 2004
Messages
46,211 (9.51/day)
Likes
13,697
Location
Australalalalalaia.
System Name Daddy Long Legs
Processor Ryzen R7 1700, 3.9GHz 1.375v
Motherboard MSI X370 Gaming PRO carbon
Cooling Fractal Celsius S24 (Silent fans, meh pump)
Memory 16GB 2133 generic @ 2800
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X (BIOS modded to Gaming Z - faster and solved black screen bugs!)
Storage 1TB Intel SSD Pro 6000p (60TB USB3 storage)
Display(s) Samsung 4K 40" HDTV (UA40KU6000WXXY) / 27" Qnix 2K 110Hz
Case Fractal Design R5. So much room, so quiet...
Audio Device(s) Pioneer VSX-519V + Yamaha YHT-270 / sennheiser HD595/518 + Corsair Void RGB
Power Supply Corsair HX 750i (Platinum, fan off til 300W)
Mouse Logitech G403 + KKmoon desk-sized mousepad
Keyboard Corsair K65 Rapidfire
Software Windows 10 pro x64 (all systems)
Benchmark Scores Laptops: i7-4510U + 840M 2GB (touchscreen) 275GB SSD + 16GB i7-2630QM + GT 540M + 8GB
#47
soooo much crapping going on here.


how about we just simplify it to:


intel is faster, but more expensive. a 15% performance boost for 50% more price isnt worth it to everyone.
 

Aquinus

Resident Wat-man
Joined
Jan 28, 2012
Messages
10,528 (4.81/day)
Likes
5,614
Location
Concord, NH
System Name Kratos
Processor Intel Core i7 3930k @ 4.2Ghz
Motherboard ASUS P9X79 Deluxe
Cooling Zalman CPNS9900MAX 130mm
Memory G.Skill DDR3-2133, 16gb (4x4gb) @ 9-11-10-28-108-1T 1.65v
Video Card(s) MSI AMD Radeon R9 390 GAMING 8GB @ PCI-E 3.0
Storage 2x120Gb SATA3 Corsair Force GT Raid-0, 4x1Tb RAID-5, 1x500GB
Display(s) 1x LG 27UD69P (4k), 2x Dell S2340M (1080p)
Case Antec 1200
Audio Device(s) Onboard Realtek® ALC898 8-Channel High Definition Audio
Power Supply Seasonic 1000-watt 80 PLUS Platinum
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Rosewill RK-9100
Software Ubuntu 17.10
Benchmark Scores Benchmarks aren't everything.
#48
intel is faster, but more expensive. a 15% performance boost for 50% more price isnt worth it to everyone.
...but it's not. The IPC that AMD offers isn't all that far under SB/IVB and it's only single-threaded apps that really see that bottleneck. It's really not when you consider that you can easily overclock an FX chip to overcome that IPC gap.

Yes, Intel is faster for single-threaded apps and might offer 15% more in that case, but if I was building a rig that needed to multi-thread well then I would seriously consider a 8350 over my i7 3820 because most multi-threaded benchmark shows FX chips dominating them. Granted now that i have the i7 I wouldn't replace it but my views would have changed if I had waited to get it.

Either way, you're not getting a bad CPU. You're just paying more if you go with Intel when AMD is keeping up just fine despite all the flaming going on.
 
Joined
Sep 8, 2005
Messages
803 (0.18/day)
Likes
463
Location
Romania
Processor i5-2500K
Motherboard ASRock P67 Extreme4
Cooling Ninja 3 fanless
Memory Corsair 4GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9 XMS3 rev. A
Video Card(s) MSI GeForce GTX 1060 GAMING X 6GB
Storage Intel 535 Series 120GB + WD 6400AAKS
Display(s) Benq EW2420
Case Antec P182
Audio Device(s) Xonar D1
Power Supply Antec Signature 650
Software Win 10
#49
Dent1 I have a word about playing in full-HD: video card first and CPU for the remaining budget.
Both AMD and Intel are playing very nice in full-HD with same video card. I have an 2500k stock and a 560Ti and my brother-in-law an 960T and a 560Ti. Both we're playing in full-HD and everything is fine for me and for him.
Maybe in some benchmarks he's behind me but in usual gaming my naked eye could not see any differences in gameplay fluidity. :)

So basically I agree with Mussels.
 

Tatty_One

Super Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Jan 18, 2006
Messages
19,834 (4.52/day)
Likes
6,125
Location
Worcestershire, UK
Processor Skylake Core i7 6700k @ 4.6gig
Motherboard MSI Z170A Tomahawk
Cooling Cooler Master Seidon 240V AIO/Viper140's
Memory 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000mhz CL14
Video Card(s) Sapphire 4gb R9 290X VaporX @1150mhz
Storage SkHynix SL308 120GB/CrucialM4/1TB WD Black
Display(s) LG 29inch 2560x1080 Curved Ultrawide IPS
Case Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Windowed - Gunmetal
Audio Device(s) Xifi Elite Pro 7.1/VideoLogic ZXR550's
Power Supply XFX Pro Black Edition 750W Gold modular
Keyboard CM Storm Octane Combo
Software Win 10 Home x64
#50
Seems like 80% of the contributors here want to ignore the Op's origional question and use the thread as a playground, the OP's question is pretty much answered anyhow.... thread closed.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.