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I'm looking for a good tool to make the 3D scanning of my mini-pc using the photogrammetry and my Kinect 2.

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Simple. Take a model, take a pair of calipers, measure distance between holes, get it wrong by 0.5mm due to odd position of holes or calipers, now it does not fit.

I can make the holes "bigger" more than what they should be. I don't see a big problem. Rather,more holes there are,more ventilated is the enclosure inside. My imagination tells me that I can create holes as large as possible until the stability of the internal components is not compromised.

I'm exploring the enclosures sold by TAKACHI ELECTRONICS. At this stage I don't want to ask them to create a tailor-made enclosure. I just need only a box that's able to reflect the main sizes I need : width,height and depth. I will ask how much money will cost to me one mockup box. The plastic will not deform itself as easily compared to the polystirene. Right ?

In addition,TAKACHI sells the various parts that make up the box.

Once I got it to my home,I will try to cut the holes with a hacksaw. Or even better,I can avoid cutting the plastic. May be enough to make marks on the plastic with a marker.

I'm contacting an old friend of mine who knows how to use Blender and/or some CAD tool. Maybe if the 3D modeller is a friend,things will be easier to do.
 
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I can make the holes "bigger" more than what they should be. I don't see a big problem. Rather,more holes there are,more ventilated is the enclosure inside. My imagination tells me that I can create holes as large as possible until the stability of the internal components is not compromised.

I'm exploring the enclosures sold by TAKACHI ELECTRONICS. At this stage I don't want to ask them to create a tailor-made enclosure. I just need only a box that's able to reflect the main sizes I need : width,height and depth. I will ask how much money will cost to me one mockup box. The plastic will not deform itself as easily compared to the polystirene. Right ?

In addition,TAKACHI sells the various parts that make up the box.

Once I got it to my home,I will try to cut the holes with a hacksaw. Or even better,I can avoid cutting the plastic. May be enough to make marks on the plastic with a marker.

I'm contacting an old friend of mine who knows how to use Blender and/or some CAD tool. Maybe if the 3D modeller is a friend,things will be easier to do.
I don't know which series of Takachi cases you chose.

In those cases, I often look for them at TAKACHI ELECTRONICS ENCLOSURE CO., LTD.
PLASTIC ENCLOSURES・HANDHELD ENCLOSURES
The case your LCD screen will fit in is limited to the PF series PF24-4-24W, etc., and you probably won't like the size...
or
ACRYLIC CASES・SKELETON CASES・TRANSPARENT ENCLOSURES

This product might be good. CUSTOM SIZED ACLYRIC BOX with CORNER GUARD - SKGF series
SKGF□-□-□K15□・W201-250mm, D101-150mm
But cases such as the PF Series introduced above have many studs inside for screwing.
When writing processing instructions with a marker, be careful not to confuse "unnecessary studs" with "studs that are essential to the case structure".
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With the second acrylic case introduced, you don't need to worry about the above, and as it is transparent, you can press the part against it and draw on the other side with a marker.

In the case of the second acrylic case introduced, you can specify the dimensions you want and it will be custom made and delivered to you.
Edit: Acrylic one-size-fits-all cases can only be ordered by special order, and you will receive a custom case with the dimensions you specify.​
In other words, if you request additional processing when you first place your order, the price difference won't be that great.
To do this requires CAD design skills, so you're planning to miss out on this opportunity...
 
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In other words, if you request additional processing when you first place your order, the price difference won't be that great.
To do this requires CAD design skills, so you're planning to miss out on this opportunity...

I have no idea about how much money will cost to me the mockup box...if the price is too high,I could not buy it at all.

To be honest,I don't like acrylic case as a final choice. I'm in love with the aluminum or the carbon fiber. But I didn't see these materials on the TAKACHI shop.

I will order the final box on a different 3D printer company that can use the materials I want,adding the proper STL file (maybe created by me,maybe created by my friend) they require.

Can you help me to find the right enclosure ? Below you see what are the basic dimensions that I need for the box :

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this is the display :

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please point me to the right enclosure,so that I can see what's the price. Thanks....
 
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I fully realize this is the modding and electronics forum but as noted earlier and you believed it to be disrespectful, building a tablet is a grand endeavor. You're basically building a computer and you'll only come to have a janky prototype at first, even if you actually design the PCB for the electronics and the case. And it requires a sharp skill set to get even to that point.

If the objective is to run FreeBSD, why not go the practical route with a x86 tablet?
 
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If the objective is to run FreeBSD, why not go the practical route with a x86 tablet?
This. For the money you will spend to have any kind of smooth-functioning tablet that you built yourself...you could simply buy a tablet (x86 or arm) and put FreeBSD on it. You'll have better hardware than that Rockpro and it won't be such a quirky potential fire-hazard.
 
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If the objective is to run FreeBSD, why not go the practical route with a x86 tablet ?

1) x86 is more energy-hungry than ARM.

2) creating a tablet means to learn and to take measurements for another project that I have planned to start for the future : building a mobile phone based on FreeBSD. Project that sometime I think even now.

3) no need to have an X86 system in a box. FreeBSD today is installed only on the X86 computers. To see it as a player on a mobile area is fun and interesting. More interesting than to play with FreeBSD on X86,even because I did this every day at my home with my workstation PC.

For the money you will spend to have any kind of smooth-functioning tablet that you built yourself...

I have already bought and found all the hardware components and cables,that I have tested and I know that it works. I have already done more than the half of the work. I need only to create / find a nice enclosure and I will have a finished product. At least,at hardware level.

you could simply buy a tablet (x86 or arm) and put FreeBSD on it.

FreeBSD is not installed on the mobile devices / tablet. You will not find any single tablet / mobile device with it on the market. This is due to the lack of drivers missing for FreeBSD. A lot of drivers are written for Linux and Android,but not for FreeBSD. So,on the tablet that you find on the market you will find Android as a primary OS. Even Linux is not ready for that market segment. It's simply impossible to install FreeBSD on any tablet that you can find on the market.

You'll have better hardware than that Rockpro

The Rockpro is a good board and it is supported by FreeBSD. It works decently. I asked before to choose it.

and it won't be such a quirky potential fire-hazard.

You seem to be a little bit catastrophist...

Any kind of smooth-functioning tablet that you built yourself...

It's fun and educational.

If I don't ask to much,I want to ask you to point me to the enclosure that can fit the dimensions that I've shown posting the picture above,so that I can see what's the price. If you don't want / you can't ,its ok,I will email TAKACHI. You helped me so much until now,so I want to say to you all a big thank you.
 
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FreeBSD is not installed on the mobile devices / tablet. You will not find any single tablet / mobile device with it on the market. This is due to the lack of drivers missing for FreeBSD. A lot of drivers are written for Linux and Android,but not for FreeBSD. So,on the tablet that you find on the market you will find Android as a primary OS. Even Linux is not ready for that market segment. It's simply impossible to install FreeBSD on any tablet that you can find on the market.

That isn't why. FreeBSD is not, nor shall ever be, a mainstream OS. I can find you 10 tablets for under 300 dollars right now that it would run on just fine (i double-checked the compatible hardware list).

You have resisted every attempt for any of these guys to teach you anything. Everyone is wrong but you.

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That isn't why. FreeBSD is not, nor shall ever be, a mainstream OS. I can find you 10 tablets for under 300 dollars right now that it would run on just fine (i double-checked the compatible hardware list).

Please,share it with us.
 
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1) x86 is more energy-hungry than ARM.

This is not necessarily true. Modern low-power x86 cores are quite competitive with ARM, it's Windows that has very poor power management. As for the others, I think you will need to find a more specialized forum to get more useful information in order to achieve much of what you want.

Ultimately, only you know the specifications of the system you are attempting to build, and design is very much subjective: if all you need is a case, get to work with Blender, it's probably the easiest part to create the physible to 3D print, at least compared to what you'll go through when you reach the PCB design stage.
 
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FreeBSD is not installed on the mobile devices / tablet. You will not find any single tablet / mobile device with it on the market. This is due to the lack of drivers missing for FreeBSD. A lot of drivers are written for Linux and Android,but not for FreeBSD. So,on the tablet that you find on the market you will find Android as a primary OS. Even Linux is not ready for that market segment. It's simply impossible to install FreeBSD on any tablet that you can find on the market.
You've found what you're aiming for.
Aren't the skills you should acquire the ability to create driver software that works properly on FreeBSD?

- Identify the hardware that must be communicated with and controlled from the OS.
- Read and understand the hardware datasheets and communication specifications.
- Create software that acts as a bridge between the OS and the hardware.
Aren't these the skills you need?

Or is your goal just to find something that works currently that someone else has made, and then create a tablet?;)

If I were to build a tablet in the same way, and were to design it with the assumption that I would choose FreeBSD as the OS...
I would choose the LattePanda Mu without hesitation.:)
The LattePanda Mu requires a carrier board.​
It is unclear whether the drivers for each device on the carrier board provided by the manufacturer are compatible with FreeBSD.​
If I were you, I would design the carrier board by selecting parts that are compatible with FreeBSD.​
If the original carrier board parts and communication hardware interface are compatible with FreeBSD, the circuit can be reused.​
My concern is whether compatible parts are still available...​
ARM CPUs would not be an option.

- Making a tablet PC
- Running FreeBSD on ARM
These are two big challenges.
I recommend tackling them one at a time rather than doing them simultaneously.

2) creating a tablet means to learn and to take measurements for another project that I have planned to start for the future : building a mobile phone based on FreeBSD. Project that sometime I think even now.
I hope that reaching your goal won't be a project for 16 generations, let alone full dentures...:twitch:

It's not a bad thing to have high goals,;) but unless you understand reality a little more, understand what you can do, and find things to learn and improve your skills, your goal will be more than just full dentures!o_O
 
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Or is your goal just to find something that works currently that someone else has made, and then create a tablet?;)

Decide for yourself if I followed that path. What I did has been to grab an ARM soc where FreeBSD can be installed without encounter huge bugs and I've bought all around it the hardware components needed to boot it ; fan,cables,display. And the last thing is the case.

I'm not sure what you think when you say "something that works currently that someone else has made". I'm not an OS engineer. Do you expect that I port FreeBSD on the SOC or that I fix the bugs ?
 
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"Do you expect that I port FreeBSD on the SOC or that I fix the bugs ?"

Yeah, that's kind of a given taking into account that you persist in reinventing the wheel.
 
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"Do you expect that I port FreeBSD on the SOC or that I fix the bugs ?"

Yeah, that's kind of a given taking into account that you persist in reinventing the wheel.

Sorry,I don't understand your point.

1 - Fujitsu q720

2 - Panasonic Toughbook CF-20

3- Fusion 5

4 - Panasonic toughbook fz-g1

5 - Chuwi hi10 X1

6 - Dell latitude 7285

7 - Dell Latitiude 11 5175

8 - Lenovo ideapad d330

9- lenovo duet 3i

10 - Lenovo Miix 2

All vanilla x86 intel machines. I am not wasting my time sorting through the tons of them with Allwinner, Rockchip, and other various arm soc's that are supported.

You assume that I want use one x86 intel machine. But the point was different. You misinterpreted my words. My point was that FreeBSD cannot be installed on a low-cost ARM tablet.
 
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You really think that FreeBSD will work right out of the box on that Frankenstein of a "tablet" ???

Oh, so "My point was that FreeBSD cannot be installed on a low-cost ARM tablet" is that on a high cost ARM tablet it will work. Great.
 
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You really think that FreeBSD will work right out of the box on that Frankenstein of a "tablet" ???

why not ? It has already been able to boot and it reached the command prompt.

Oh, so "My point was that FreeBSD cannot be installed on a low-cost ARM tablet" is that on a high cost ARM tablet it will work. Great.

nop. FreeBSD can't run on high cost ARM tablets that are on the market.
 
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I spent some time looking at the list of devices that FreeBSD supports.
And I couldn't find any devices that monitored battery life or anything like that.

This indicates a lack of functionality needed to make battery-powered mobile devices like tablets and future smartphones.
Does the FreeBSD OS even have a function to manage battery capacity?

The challenges are mounting like Everest...

I'm not an OS engineer. Do you expect that I port FreeBSD on the SOC or that I fix the bugs ?
You are an OS engineer, and you want to try out a tablet with FreeBSD...
That was the last logical scenario I imagined.

In other words, it was a scenario in which, once you solved the hardware issues, you could solve the rest on your own.

Of course, since you didn't do simple multiplication and division of battery life, research the power consumption indicated by the manufacturer, or check the dimensions of the case yourself, the chances were slim to none...

I wonder why I'm obsessed with FreeBSD even though I'm not an OS engineer...
School assignments? End user requests?

At the very least, it's clear that there's nothing more I can do here.


If there was any result, it would be that it gave me the opportunity to use my frustration as fuel to pass the time by making a tablet in my own way.
 
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I spent some time looking at the list of devices that FreeBSD supports.
And I couldn't find any devices that monitored battery life or anything like that.

This indicates a lack of functionality needed to make battery-powered mobile devices like tablets and future smartphones.
Does the FreeBSD OS even have a function to manage battery capacity?

The challenges are mounting like Everest...


You are an OS engineer, and you want to try out a tablet with FreeBSD...
That was the last logical scenario I imagined.

In other words, it was a scenario in which, once you solved the hardware issues, you could solve the rest on your own.

Of course, since you didn't do simple multiplication and division of battery life, research the power consumption indicated by the manufacturer, or check the dimensions of the case yourself, the chances were slim to none...

I wonder why I'm obsessed with FreeBSD even though I'm not an OS engineer...
School assignments? End user requests?

At the very least, it's clear that there's nothing more I can do here.


If there was any result, it would be that it gave me the opportunity to use my frustration as fuel to pass the time by making a tablet in my own way.

So...managing power is possible on FreeBSD (Power tuning "tutorial"). It would require knowledge of the state of a CPU, and you'd essentially have to poll the battery to generate some sort of battery indicator.

The problem I see is that someone who is hell bent on not having to learn about a CAD program is not going to spend hours and hours putting this together. It'd be like expecting someone to solve a complex math equation, after watching them walk away from an algebraic expression of a line.


All of this said, the logic is still board+battery+display+case = tablet PC. That's just so wrong. That said, telling OP to stop for a moment and consider is wasting air. It's time to let them explode a lithium ion battery, incinerate a frankentablet, and let this be a situation where the stubborn get third degree burns because they don't want to listen. This is why I recommend hackaday, because anyone with sense would see a nearly decade old project, identify that buying a tablet that is already supported would be less of a nightmare, and back down from something so ambitious....especially considering they don't want to learn any CAD tools, but are signing up to potentially have to write hardware component drivers.
 
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--> Does the FreeBSD OS even have a function to manage battery capacity ?

I don't think. But as I said mine is a little project. For me is enough to power the device using a battery pack.

--> You are an OS engineer, and you want to try out a tablet with FreeBSD...

In a lot of posts that I wrote,I have specified "tablet" and "mini-pc". I want to invite you to think at this project as a less professional project.
My goals are very easy. Power on the soc,the display using the Liitiokala protected battery and the buck board that you have also bought and that you have indicated as good. And for sure,creating an enclosure where to store the electronic components.

As I have pointed above,guys you have an excessive inclination to think at the projects exclusively in professional terms. And you constantly and continuously criticize every little imperfection and shortcoming that may be there.

My invitation is to put yourself in a situation where you have to take off your usual professional clothes to wear those of a newbie who is trying to learn (something,not everything,due to the complexity of the project) and achieve a goal that will be certainly not excellent, but,I hope,at least,usable. For me the goal is to be able to use the device out of the mains for 3 / 4 hours,as indicated by you as possible, in an old post.

What amazes me a lot is a cultural difference that I see. You are convinced that one can do everything one wants, perhaps just by reading the instructions on the internet. Me and those who live in my cultural environment are aware of our limits and we do what we can do. The rest we either outsource or we give up adding functions that we are aware we cannot master.

I also read that someone is convinced of the uselessness of even going to university / college to get a theoretical-practical basis. In my cultural universe, having a school education is fundamental. And I have a humanistic one,not an electrical / electronical engineering one,so I can certainly only aspire to do something simple.

So...managing power is possible on FreeBSD (Power tuning "tutorial"). It would require knowledge of the state of a CPU, and you'd essentially have to poll the battery to generate some sort of battery indicator.

Thanks. I will save this page for a later stage of the project. I will try to implement all the tecniques explained there. It looks advanced for me,but that's an interesting and important chapter to study,to try to implement because it will improve the quality of my device.

The problem I see is that someone who is hell bent on not having to learn about a CAD program

I see only one problem here. That you didn't read what I wrote in a old post,that I don't exclude to start learning some CAD. So,you can't blame me. ;)
My strategy is to try to find a compromise between the efforts that I should put and the money that I can spend and / or the knowledge that I can manage and the knowledge that's so technical that I can't understand because I don't have the basis.

All of this said, the logic is still board+battery+display+case = tablet PC. That's just so wrong. That said, telling OP to stop for a moment and consider is wasting air. It's time to let them explode a lithium ion battery, incinerate a frankentablet, and let this be a situation where the stubborn get third degree burns because they don't want to listen. This is why I recommend hackaday, because anyone with sense would see a nearly decade old project, identify that buying a tablet that is already supported would be less of a nightmare, and back down from something so ambitious....especially considering they don't want to learn any CAD tools, but are signing up to potentially have to write hardware component drivers.

Man,I started with the idea of using a powerbank because safer than a battery pack,but later I thought I could use a battery pack with a buck board :


and one of you didn't put me off at all....he even bought and tested it and he defined it enough good and safe to be used...
 
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Maybe, maybe not.

At least I saw in the photo the OP posted that he had a 18650 Li-ion battery pack stacked on the sharp tip of the PockPro64 GPIO pin header.

And I wondered whether to advise him to avoid the danger, or to leave him alone until he learns by burning himself a few times, as lilhasselhoffer said.
It's time to let them explode a lithium ion battery, incinerate a frankentablet, and let this be a situation where the stubborn get third degree burns because they don't want to listen.
I have seen a lithium polymer battery fire with my own eyes.​

When I was 17, a lithium polymer battery used in a robotics competition caught fire due to an overcurrent during the competition.
The robot that caught fire was made by a friend of mine, but the robot I made used an even larger battery and a more powerful motor, and neither my friend nor I used any safety circuits.
When I remember that fire, I cannot choose to ignore the OP's dangerous behavior...​


Even if it's said that they don't want an overly specialized perspective, the OP's requests often require them to delve into specialized territory.
Of course, there's no way around it, since without the knowledge it's impossible to know whether something is within a specialized area.

In other words, the OP should have more clearly stated what they wanted to do, their skills, and the process they would use.
And they should have stopped changing the thread every time they thought of something, making it difficult to refer to past information.


I noticed in a previous post, the OP had already manually drilled holes in the ABS plastic case.

As stated in the installation guide for the ABS resin case, it seems odd that they are not using a MIPI-DSI connected LCD panel that is compatible with the case... Perhaps they were out of stock and could not be obtained?

If OP can process ABS resin to this extent, I think they should be able to process the PF series cases from TAKACHI ELECTRONICS themselves.
 
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It's time to let them explode a lithium ion battery, incinerate a frankentablet, and let this be a situation where the stubborn get third degree burns because they don't want to listen.

That's false.I'm not stubborn. I listen. Point here is to estimate well how much the danger is real. If the lithium batteries explosions are rare events it's one thing, if the danger is more likely, another. In any case I have no problem using the power bank instead of the battery pack.

As stated in the installation guide for the ABS resin case, it seems odd that they are not using a MIPI-DSI connected LCD panel that is compatible with the case... Perhaps they were out of stock and could not be obtained?

The display suggested with the ABS resin case called "Playbox Enclosure" was not good with FreeBSD. I had to use a different one.

If OP can process ABS resin to this extent, I think they should be able to process the PF series cases from TAKACHI ELECTRONICS themselves.

I've emailed TAKACHI to ask for a good enclosure for my needs but they didn't reply yet. I'm not sure which one enclosure is good for me. TAKACHI sells a lot of enclosure. I'm confused. I need to get help.
 
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Well said.

I imagine that you are satisfied to believe that I am confused in an absolute sense, regarding every aspect of my project. But no. I am confused only in relative terms, regarding the offering of enclosures of TAKACHI. Sorry for you.
 
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I can fab a case from ss/mild steel or aluminium sheet after your measurements.
(No radiused corners then.)
I operate a punch/laser combi machine and a bench press at work.
 
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