I have been playing with my father inlaws Am2 system while upgrading it and added a 8800gt to the mix. This systems has 4 GB of DDr2 800, the CPU is at stock 3.1ghz and video card setting are at stock aswell. It plays the hell out of all my games. All this talk about bottle necks is straight BS , it plays the hell out any current games. Sure you can get higher frame rates but 36 to 40 is plenty at near max settings . I'm selling the 6000+, however, not because I'm disatified but because I recieved a 7850 Phenom X2 sealed in the box for 32.00 shipped. The 7850x2 is really a 6400+ with more on chip memory and better memory controller. So I couldn't resist. You could also say it is half a Phenom1 quad that overclocks as high as a 6400+. It is the best dual core made for the Am2 rigs because it is more efficent than the 6400+ even though it runs at 2.8ghz. It really beats the 6400+ down when oced to 3.0 or higher. I feel if your board doesn't support AM3 this is your chip for sure.