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In a double slit experiment it is the dark matter that waves

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    'What If There's a Way to Explain Quantum Physics Without the Probabilistic Weirdness?'
    http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart...stic-weirdness-180951914/#JEoZGUo23dbMGJly.16

    "Known as “pilot wave theory” this line of thinking goes that, rather than electrons and other things being both quasi-particles and quasi-waves, the electron is a discrete particle that is being carried along by a separate wave. What this wave is made of no one knows."

    'Redefining Dark Matter - Wave Instead Of Particle'
    http://www.science20.com/news_articles/redefining_dark_matter_wave_instead_of_particle-139771

    "Tom Broadhurst, an Ikerbasque researcher at the University of the Basque Country (UPV/EHU), explains that, "guided by the initial simulations of the formation of galaxies in this context, we have reinterpreted cold dark matter as a Bose-Einstein condensate". So, "the ultra-light bosons forming the condensate share the same quantum wave function, so disturbance patterns are formed on astronomic scales in the form of large-scale waves"."

    "This opens up the possibility that dark matter could be regarded as a very cold quantum fluid"


    Dark matter is displaced by the particles of matter which exist in it and move through it.

    A moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave.

    In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the dark matter passes through both.
     
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    Except the collapse of the wave when observed.
     
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    'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory - Louis de BROGLIE'
    http://aflb.ensmp.fr/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf

    “When in 1923-1924 I had my first ideas about Wave Mechanics I was looking for a truly concrete physical image, valid for all particles, of the wave and particle coexistence discovered by Albert Einstein in his "Theory of light quanta". I had no doubt whatsoever about the physical reality of waves and particles.”

    “any particle, even isolated, has to be imagined as in continuous “energetic contact” with a hidden medium”

    The hidden medium of de Broglie wave mechanics is the dark matter. The “energetic contact” is the state of displacement of the dark matter.

    "For me, the particle, precisely located in space at every instant, forms on the v wave a small region of high energy concentration, which may be likened in a first approximation, to a moving singularity."

    A particle may be likened in a first approximation to a moving singularity which has an associated dark matter displacement wave.

    "the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave"

    Particles of matter move through and displace the dark matter.

    A moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the dark matter passes through both. As the wave exits the slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference. This is the wave guiding the particle. Strongly detecting the particle destroys the cohesion between the particle and its associated wave, the particle continues on the trajectory it was traveling and it does not form an interference pattern.

    "While the founding fathers agonized over the question 'particle' or 'wave', de Broglie in 1925 proposed the obvious answer 'particle' and 'wave'. Is it not clear from the smallness of the scintillation on the screen that we have to do with a particle? And is it not clear, from the diffraction and interference patterns, that the motion of the particle is directed by a wave? De Broglie showed in detail how the motion of a particle, passing through just one of two holes in screen, could be influenced by waves propagating through both holes. And so influenced that the particle does not go where the waves cancel out, but is attracted to where they cooperate. This idea seems to me so natural and simple, to resolve the wave-particle dilemma in such a clear and ordinary way, that it is a great mystery to me that it was so generally ignored." - John Bell
     
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    I believe I understand that, and have been doing some brain exercise to the end of; at the most basic form everything we know is a vibrating 3D volume of energy, and what we call matter is the coalescence of those vibrations in harmonic standing waves of this medium, thus the absorption and redistribution of energy as shown here http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae605.cfm is possible as perhaps a yet unmeasurable change to this volume occurs, and also why quantum entanglement works. Dark matter and the gravitational interactions being explained as large "pools" of this standing wave cause the volume to warp and gravity to appear, and depending on the sensitivity of the measurement even small particles experience gravity.
     
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    The Milky Way's dark matter halo is not a clump of stuff traveling along with the Milky Way. The Milky Way is moving through and displacing the dark matter.

    Dark matter and aether are labels used for the mass which fills the space unoccupied by particles of matter.

    Particles of matter move through and displace the dark matter/aether; including particles as large as the Milky Way.

    'Comment on the higher derivative Lagrangians in relativistic theory'
    http://arxiv.org/abs/1305.5759

    "Einstein theory of gravitational fields and this gives a new perspective on the Mach principle revisiting the “absolute” acceleration concept as a natural motion in space-time deformed by the matter-energy contained therein. We refer the reader to the paper of Einstein on a related topic [9]. The relativistic theory of an Aether was discussed several time, see for e.g. [8], [9]. In this paper, our hypothesis is different and gives a relativistic theory of the deformation of continuous media (for which the geometry is described by the metric field)."

    The Milky Way's halo is the deformation of continuous media.

    The Milky Way's halo is the defromation of spacetime.

    The Milky Way's halo is the state of displacement of the aether.

    What is referred to geometrically as deformed spacetime is the state of displacement of the aether.
     
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    The Michelson-Morley experiment looked for an absolutely stationary space the Earth moves through. The aether is not an absolutely stationary space. Particles of matter move through and displace the aether.

    A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment it is the aether that waves.
     
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    And when it is observed it does what to the aether waves? Creating a theory means looking for reasons its wrong, not, how can we make the data fit our theory.
     
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    When you strongly detect the particle you destroy its cohesion with its associated wave, the particle continues on the trajectory it was traveling and it doesn't form an interference pattern.

    '1st place: Shifting the morals of quantum measurement'
    http://physicsworld.com/cws/article...rld-reveals-its-top-10-breakthroughs-for-2011

    "Using an emerging technique called "weak measurement", the team is the first to track the average paths of single photons passing through a Young's double-slit experiment – something that Steinberg says physicists had been "brainwashed" into thinking is impossible."

    'Quantum mechanics rule 'bent' in classic experiment'
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13626587

    'For his part, Professor Steinberg believes that the result reduces a limitation not on quantum physics but on physicists themselves. "I feel like we're starting to pull back a veil on what nature really is," he said. "The trouble with quantum mechanics is that while we've learned to calculate the outcomes of all sorts of experiments, we've lost much of our ability to describe what is really happening in any natural language. I think that this has really hampered our ability to make progress, to come up with new ideas and see intuitively how new systems ought to behave."'

    'New 'Double Slit' Experiment Skirts Uncertainty Principle'
    http://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-slit-experiment-skirts-uncertainty-principle

    "Intriguingly, the trajectories closely match those predicted by an unconventional interpretation of quantum mechanics known as pilot-wave theory, in which each particle has a well-defined trajectory that takes it through one slit while the associated wave passes through both slits."

    A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit. It is the associated wave which passes through both. As the wave exits the slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference. This is the wave guiding the particle. Strongly detecting the particle causes a loss of cohesion between the particle and its associated wave, the particle continues on the trajectory it was traveling and it does not form an interference pattern.

    What waves in a double slit experiment is the aether.
     
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    'The pilot-wave dynamics of walking droplets


    'Yves Couder Explains Wave/Particle Duality via Silicon Droplets [Through the Wormhole]'
     
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    Neither of those are quantum level, they just very closely resemble the actions at quantum level, and again, as mentioned in the articles, more testing needs to be done before we can say for certain this is the cause.
     
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    In a double slit experiment the particle is always physically detected traveling through a single slit because it always physically travels through a single slit. It is the associated wave in the aether which passes through both.
     
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    Polarized glasses.
     
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    'Fluid Tests Hint at Concrete Quantum Reality'
    http://www.simonsfoundation.org/quanta/20140624-fluid-tests-hint-at-concrete-quantum-reality/

    "Some enthusiasts think the fluid approach could indeed be the key to resolving the long-standing conflict between quantum mechanics and Einstein’s theory of gravity, which clash at infinitesimal scales.

    “The possibility exists that we can look for a unified theory of the Standard Model and gravity in terms of an underlying, superfluid substrate of reality,” said Ross Anderson, a computer scientist and mathematician at the University of Cambridge in England, and the co-author of a recent paper on the fluid-quantum analogy. In the future, Anderson and his collaborators plan to study the behavior of “rotons” (particle-like excitations) in superfluid helium as an even closer analog of this possible “superfluid model of reality.”

    But at present, these connections with quantum gravity are speculative, and for young researchers, risky ideas. Bush, Couder and the other fluid dynamicists hope that their demonstrations of a growing number of quantum-like phenomena will make a deterministic, fluid picture of quantum mechanics increasingly convincing.

    “With physicists it’s such a controversial thing, and people are pretty noncommittal at this stage,” Bush said. “We’re just forging ahead, and time will tell. The truth wins out in the end.”"


    What ripples when galaxy clusters collide is what waves in a double slit experiment; the superfluid substrate.

    Einstein's gravitational wave is de Broglie wave of wave-particle duality; both are waves in the superfluid substrate.

    The superfluid substrate displaced by the particles of matter which exist in it and move through it relates general relativity and quantum mechanics.

    The Milky Way's dark matter halo is not a clump of stuff traveling along with the Milky Way. The Milky Way is moving through and displace the superfluid substrate.

    The Milky Way's halo is the state of displacement of the superfluid substrate.
     
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    It is interesting reading for sure, but the issue with the wave guided particle is polarization, how do we make known particle observations allow for a phenomenon we use in everyday life?

    The underlying answer may be that they are not actually particles, but, the accumulation of vibrations of fundamental strings that may comprise dark matter, which when it interacts with other accumulated matter (fundamental vibrating strings) what we see as particles is the wave interaction. We could say two up quarks and one down quark is the harmonic vibration of two rising parts of the string and one lowering, and then the particle changes state, and these harmonic vibrations are what makes accumulations of protons, neutrons, and electrons stable or unstable, as well as the popping into and out of existence of matter as calculated by observed quantum physics.
     
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    In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the aether passes through both.
     
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    If it is a particle when what creates the interference pattern? And how does polarization work then?
     
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    A moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the dark matter passes through both. As the wave exits the slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference. This is the wave guiding the particle. The wave guiding the particle is what creates the interference pattern. Strongly detecting the particle destroys the cohesion between the particle and its associated wave, the particle continues on the trajectory it was traveling and it does not form an interference pattern.

    "While the founding fathers agonized over the question 'particle' or 'wave', de Broglie in 1925 proposed the obvious answer 'particle' and 'wave'. Is it not clear from the smallness of the scintillation on the screen that we have to do with a particle? And is it not clear, from the diffraction and interference patterns, that the motion of the particle is directed by a wave? De Broglie showed in detail how the motion of a particle, passing through just one of two holes in screen, could be influenced by waves propagating through both holes. And so influenced that the particle does not go where the waves cancel out, but is attracted to where they cooperate. This idea seems to me so natural and simple, to resolve the wave-particle dilemma in such a clear and ordinary way, that it is a great mystery to me that it was so generally ignored." - John Bell
     
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    Except when the photon detectors were left on, but recording medium was removed the interference pattern remained, so the idea of strong or weak detection is flawed.



    http://physicsworld.com/cws/article...rld-reveals-its-top-10-breakthroughs-for-2011

    I will have to do more research, but changing the experiment to fit their idea is what it seems like, instead of firing a single photon through a vacuum, and allowing a probability wave to form, they split it and it is forced down either fiber optic cable, then once it reaches the end the only way they know which way it went is by passing it through a weak detector, AKA calcite film then they stop measuring it, until it hits the CCD, at which time they proclaim it has traveled from the right or left and usually hits the same side of the screen.

    https://web.archive.org/web/2012032...sion_3E/Kocsis_Observing_the_Trajectories.pdf

    This is their paper.
     
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    I'm not watching an hour long video.

    Idea of strong and weak detection is not flawed.
     
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    The photon travels along the fiber optic cable through one slit or the other. You can't know which slit without detecting the photon. The associated wave in the aether travels along both fiber optic cables through both slits.
     
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    At this point I will have to say I will wait and see, a lot of ideas and tests have been done only to find the reason something happened was for entirely different reasons, and or sensitivity of sensors or other devices wasn't good enough, or some just manipulated the data. Since we haven't seen any quantum breakthroughs about this since his test was done I am unconvinced and will leave it at that until more peer reviewed data becomes available.
     
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    Or, you could understand the reason why the particle is always detected traveling through a single slit is because it always travels through a single slit.
     
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    'An Extended Dynamical Equation of Motion, Phase Dependency and Inertial Backreaction'
    http://arxiv.org/abs/1208.3458

    "Although Einstein in the frame of the special theory of relativity disregarded the notion of absolute space, he returned to this concept later when formulating his general theory of relativity, by the spacetime metric gµ,ν, showing that spacetime has a geometrical structure, and claiming that empty space should be called the “the new aether of the general relativity” [25] (see also Ref. [26])."

    "The new aether of general relativity" is the "hidden medium" of de Broglie's wave mechanics and double solution theory.

    Einstein's gravitational wave is de Broglie's wave of wave-particle duality; both are waves in the aether.

    What ripples when galaxy clusters collide is what waves in a double slit experiment; the aether.

    Aether displaced by matter relates general relativity and quantum mechanics.
     
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    "... as perhaps a yet unmeasurable change to this volume occurs, and also why quantum entanglement works."

    Wait, what? Please clarify your perceived reasoning supporting how Quantum Entanglement works? ...I have to hear this...if successful, you easily qualify for review for The Nobel Prize...
     

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