in great confusion !

[prescient]

my love those 2 mb extra l2 cash can make a difference, i had a powerful single core Pentium all it had is 2 mb l2 cash . plus hyper threading can handle windows
op while a game is running

 

[Vario]

maybe it would if the game kicked more than 2 gb ram ?? as if the used less than 2 gb you wont notice the difference

at anyway you are recommending the 770 gtx

http://alienbabeltech.com/main/gtx-770-4gb-vs-2gb-tested/3/

This has been quite an enjoyable exploration for us in comparing the 4GB vRAM-equipped EVGA GTX 770 SC to the 2GB reference GTX 770 at the same clocks. Unless a gamer plays at 5760×1080, we wouldn’t recommend choosing 4GB vRAM over 2GB for a single GTX 770 for today’s games. However, if a gamer is planning to SLI GTX 770s at 5760×1080, then it might be reasonable to pick the 4GB version. We can’t predict future performance of upcoming games so we will leave them out of our equation.

Yes I recommend the 770, very good experience so far for me. The PNY I have runs by default at 1254mhz core / 1800mhz vram, when in boost mode, the highest of the 770s I have seen for sale.

 

[prescient]

good you recomened the 770 gtx 2 gb and extra thanks for the the bench marks but what about the 770 gtx 2gb vs the R9 780x integrated 3 gb ?

i know you said the 770gtx is better for now but how about the 3 gb ram of the ati for near future games ? they will all recommended 3 gb ram soon

 

[Chetkigaming]

if you can wait few month, nvidia will announce new gtx 8xx line maxwell gpu, would be great buy.

 

[prescient]

no i waited too long already plus they will start with high end cards few month's is a lot plus they always delay

 

[prescient]

i went to the shop and found those :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116901 370$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131979 271$


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121770 430$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125463 430$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127759 400$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104371 180$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104363 180$

as for the cooler they have this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103089 60$

or i can tell my sister to get me one of those from spain

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9301&m_mc=AFC-IR&cm_mmc=AFC-IR-_-na-_-na-_-na
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

 

[Vario]

Theres really no right answer for R9 280X 3GB vs GTX 770 2GB. As far as gaming goes, they pretty much perform equivalent, with one of them outperforming the other in an equal number of games.
Just don't bother getting the GTX 770 4GB, its a waste.

Long term it probably doesn't matter, they will both be obsolete before that vram quantity is a big problem. The extra 2GB of VRAM for the GTX 770 4GB only helps with very high resolutions, which is something that the 770 really shouldn't be running anyway, you should be running a 780ti or R9 290x for those.

If that extra 1GB of ram is very important to you then go with the R9 280X. It also has 384 bit memory bus vs the 256 bit bus of the GTX 770.

As I said they are very similar so theres no wrong answer.


Those MSI R9 280X do have a reputation of having the fans leak oil though so I'd go with a different brand R9 280X if you do go with that over the GTX 770, maybe Asus or Sapphire.

 

[prescient]

i keep saying to my self if the 2 cards preforms the same

why buy a 2 gb gtx card when you can buy a 3gb ati card (i mean the msi R9280x) ? for the same price ?
when games are starting to ask for 3 gb?

is it because my 1920 x 1080 will not use the 3 gb soon anyway ?

as for the msi R9 280x its the only brand they have at the moment
so what do you say about the 770 gtx brands ? asus or gigabyte ? that asus looks great with those pipes
and the gigabyte is oced they go for the same price . u scared me off the msi i dont need oil leaks
besides i miss nividia in a way .
as it has been said i guess my 1920 x 1080 screen wont need that much ram and i usually change
the vga every 2 years anyway . i usually invest in the infra structure cpu mb ram ex ...

what about the ram and cooler ? what do you think ?

 

[Vario]

With the 770 vs R9 280X somethings are faster other things are slower, its not as simple as ram quantity. They are completely different architectures. The only way to compare them is how well they perform on the same games, and the result is they perform very similarly.

EVGA is always a safe bet. I got a PNY which is pretty nice but runs hot so I have to run a custom fan profile, but it also runs with a 1254 core overclock from the start which is more than most cards so that might be why its hotter. I have heard good things about the Asus model. I was not impressed with the Gigabyte 7970 I had before.

 

[prescient]

yes that 770 gtx asus looks really good i never liked the gigabyte 3 fans . 3 fans are a lot the pipes are better plus the ausu mb will have better communication with it .
but the gigabyte is a bit oced than it but i guess not by much . ill get this one

http://www.asus.com/us/Graphics_Cards/GTX770DC2OC2GD5/

what about the rams ? should i get the higher ? 2133

 

[Vario]

Only if its the same price as 1600. 2133 might only net 2-3 fps at the most. If you get a good deal on 2133 ram, then its not bad.

 

[eidairaman1]

skt 1155 is dead, might aswell go with 1150 or 2011, AM3+ or FM2+

 

[prescient]

what about pc speed ? the ram wont make my pc and loading time? faster ? in that case they say the 1600 1.5 is better

Only if its the same price as 1600. 2133 might only net 2-3 fps at the most. If you get a good deal on 2133 ram, then its not bad.

you mean the first post ? read post #31

 

[silkstone]

I know you want to upgrade now, and I don't blame you from your current system specs. But, have you considered waiting for the next-gen intel chips? They are meant to be focusing more on the desktop end and overclocking with the next revision.

http://thepcenthusiast.com/intel-devils-canyon-and-5th-gen-broadwell-slightly-detailed/

 

[prescient]

good idea , but now days they keep re branding releasing and talking , every year they release new generation like the R9
it can be true but anyway the high end new cpus will hit 500$ easily and will be out of my budget. the haswell i7 looks in good
price atm like that article said . plus i dont want to be beta tester for new intel chips the 1150 socket had lots of stability problems at start .
i wasnt recommended to even use it .
if the new generation will be for the same price then it might be a good idea but i guess the 4790k will go like 600$

they say slightly , anyway . and a good after market cooler is good .
i oced my e8500 to 4ghz on stock cooler

 

[rtwjunkie]

@prescient: why are you still saying skt 1150 had problems? Many of us have already told you that you were given bad information about staying away from it.

 

[arskatb]

Haswell processors has only 1 problem, if ur unlucky u might fall foul badly installed heat distributor, actually Ivy has same problems.
Both have bad thermal compound

 

[prescient]

i didnt say 1150 has problems i said when it was released , most new mb/cpu new gen comes up with such unsuitability at start
now the z87 got stable . they always go commercial about new generation being better , just to sell it i mean they wont go that far
read the i7 4770k page she will say the same good things about it . in fact this topic is worth a poll thread am starting .

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/upgrade-or-wait.199281/

 

[silkstone]

I'd still keep an eye out for z97 release dates and wait a little while for one of those boards (if it's only a matter of weeks) even if u still go with 1st gen Haswell. I 'think' Z97 may be supporting DDR4 among other things.

 

[prescient]

i got tired reaching a desision about the z87 from the z77 all that waiting and maneuvering is too much of work for me
i made the deal with the shop they will buy my old components i guess ill push through with it
it cant be that long of a jump as they said slightly , its only marketing strategy
and yes the 2133 ram are same price am going for it .

 

[silkstone]

You'll see a huge boost and be happy, I'm sure. I'm on a decent enough chip atm. If I still had my old e8400, I don't think i'd be able to hold off.

 

[Vario]

Get the Z87, Z77 motherboards are hard to find and it will only get worse

 

[rtwjunkie]

You'll see a huge boost and be happy, I'm sure. I'm on a decent enough chip atm. If I still had my old e8400, I don't think i'd be able to hold off.

Yeah, really, if you're on a K-branded Sandy Bridge, there's not much reason to upgrade yet. I only went to IVB on secondary bc the skt 775 died, and will probably only update to the latest haswell (or beyond) on my HTPC when that m/b dies. Leaves my main rig still on SB, and perfectly content!

 

[prescient]

Get the Z87, Z77 motherboards are hard to find and it will only get worse

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/in-great-confusion.198790/page-2#post-3084485

 

[de.das.dude]

It's only what I read on the conclusion here: http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1158&page=14

"The entire story, or recommending an upgrade, gets even tougher and weirder when considering the power consumption. At stock clocks the Core i5-4670K is the most efficient CPU. Equipped with this CPU our test system pulls 106 Watt out of the wall, followed by the Core i5-3570K with 107 Watt and then there comes the Core i5-2500K with 120 Watt. This is the case, when we run wPrime, but when we put maximum load on the CPU using LinX the ranking looks like the following: the Core i5-3570K is in the lead with 116 Watt, then there is the Core i5-4760K with 128 Watt and at last there comes the i5-2500K with 135 Watt. And it's like that hasn't been confusing enough, when considering power consumption when the CPUs are overclocked, then the Core i5-2500K is becoming more efficient. So overall if we consider power consumption of all CPUs at stock frequencies as well as overclocked to 4.5 GHz, the Core i5-3570K seems like the overall smartest choice, since it's a bit faster than the 2500K and it draws quite a bit less power than the 4670K."

I'm sure the MB has some bearing on the results!

+1

funny how they differentiated between two with a 1 watt margin. that is probably less than the accuracy of their tests lol.


as for OP, since you are doing a full upgrade anyway... there is no reason to NOT go for the most recent technology. Always best to stay updated.