Input lag is killing me

[Lkzz]

Hey everyone! I've been trying to figure out what's causing input lag issues on my PC. I'm a casual player, but this is beginning to frustrate me. All this problem started some weeks after I built my new PC and I not so sure what's causing the problem. But basically I changed the memorys, the motherboard, the SSD, the graphics card, the video card and the case. Expect for the case and the graphics card, all of this components I bought from a friend that used it for sometime , but he didn't have this problem. And like I said it started after a month or so I built the new PC. Also I was using a Samsung Syncmaster 932bew (if I'm not mistaken) and it has a time responde of 2ms, while this one that I'm using now, a Samsung Syncmaster TA550 has a time response of 5ms, I don't know if this can cause the problem, but I think its important to inform. Also the cooler that I'm using, Corsair H105, its a little bit old and making a little noise so I thinking about buying a new one, but once again, I don't think that the problem is it and even the temperatura, which is always less than 140 °F or 60 °C. I feel this input lag more on the mouse, which is a Hyperx Pulsefire Core btw.

I will put the specs of the two computers (Old and new):

"Old" Computer
Case: CM 690
OS: Windows 10
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth Z97 Mark 1
CPU: Intel I7-4790k
CPU FAN: Corsair H105
MEMORY: 16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR3 (2x8gb) 2133mhz
HDD: Samsung 840EVO 500GB + HD 1TB
GPU: Intel Core I7 4790k
PSU: Corsair RM850w
MONITOR: Samsung TA550 Syncmaster (Television)


"New" Computer
Case: Macube 310
OS: Windows 10
Motherboard: Asus Maximus X
CPU: Intel I7-9700Kf
CPU FAN: Corsair H105 (Thinking about replacing it for a Masterliquid 360l)
MEMORY: 16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4 (4x4) 3000mhz (Not so sure about the frequency, need to confirm that, but I don't think thats important rn)
HDD: SSD WD 500gb M2
GPU: NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti
PSU: Corsair RM850w
MONITOR: Samsung TA550 Syncmaster (Television)

Things I've tried:
- Reinstalled windows about 2 times
- Tried windows 10 & 8.1
- As a precaution to make sure it wasn't network related lag I changed my ISP to a more stable ISP. It was more to prove to people that the problem isn't internet related as that seems to be the easy 'cop out' for people to suggest. So yes it is input lag and not regular internet lag.
- Installed different GPU Drivers for my 1080 ti
- Updated the ethernet driver, updated the windows to the last version and also the GPU drivers to the lastest version.
- Put my windows on performance mode.
- There's a lot more that I've done but these are the ones that came to mind.

Has anyone had issues similar to this? To be honest I'm debating on purchasing a new mouse, like a G Pro Wireless, buying a new watercooler, and maybe a 144hz monitor to see if that solves the problem, but I'm trying to figure out what's going on before I completely write-off both of these options. Also I feel this input lag even harder when I streaming using the Streamelements OBS, before I was using the Streamlabs, but a friend recommended me to use the streamelements, and it seems like it reduced a lot, but there's still a little input lag that makes really hard to play. If you guys have any suggestion or need any additional information, please let me know, thank you all!

 

[Toothless]

So, according to your specs, you were using a 4790k as a gpu? Are you sure?

 

[mouacyk]

So, according to your specs, you were using a 4790k as a gpu? Are you sure?

Likely GTX 970 combobulated.

Try using DPC Latency Monitor to diagnose what's causing the lag. That should narrow it down to service, driver, or even process. Ooh, I see op is in Brazil... stay safe broh.

 

[Lkzz]

So, according to your specs, you were using a 4790k as a gpu? Are you sure?

Yes, I'm pretty sure I was using the I7 4790k as CPU and the GTX 1080 as my GPU. Why?

Likely GTX 970 combobulated.

Try using DPC Latency Monitor to diagnose what's causing the lag. That should narrow it down to service, driver, or even process. Ooh, I see op is in Brazil... stay safe broh.

Alright man, do you have the link to download it? Thanks man, things are really hard here. Actually my father has covid, I really hope he gets better soon...

 

[Keullo-e]

Yes, I'm pretty sure I was using the I7 4790k as CPU and the GTX 1080 as my GPU. Why?


Alright man, do you have the link to download it? Thanks man, things are really hard here. Actually my father has covid, I really hope he gets better soon...

Because you've listed 6700K as the older computer's CPU.

 

[Lkzz]

Because you've listed 6700K as the older computer's CPU.

Oh my bad, I must've typed it wrong, now is correct. But just for the record, I was using a I7 4790k

 

[mouacyk]

Yes, I'm pretty sure I was using the I7 4790k as CPU and the GTX 1080 as my GPU. Why?


Alright man, do you have the link to download it? Thanks man, things are really hard here. Actually my father has covid, I really hope he gets better soon...

This is the one you want, from official site: Resplendence Software - LatencyMon: suitability checker for real-time audio and other tasks

 

[Lkzz]

This is the one you want, from official site: Resplendence Software - LatencyMon: suitability checker for real-time audio and other tasks

Thanks a ton man, I will try that later. But just to be sure, does it show like if the problem is with the memory or something like that?

 

[mouacyk]

Thanks a ton man, I will try that later. But just to be sure, does it show like if the problem is with the memory or something like that?

If it's related to RAM, you will see very high count for page faults. What could cause this? Bad process(es) that leak(s) all your memory, so it's constantly swapped. I don't think slow or memory errors cause page faults.

I think the likely culprit is that when you swapped the motherboard, you didn't install the official chipset drivers for the new motherboard.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

MONITOR: Samsung TA550 Syncmaster (Television)

Don't forget to go into the television settings and enable what is known as "game mode".

 

[Lkzz]

If it's related to RAM, you will see very high count for page faults. What could cause this? Bad process(es) that leak(s) all your memory, so it's constantly swapped. I don't think slow or memory errors cause page faults.

I think the likely culprit is that when you swapped the motherboard, you didn't install the official chipset drivers for the new motherboard.

Yeah that makes sense, so right after I finish, if I send the results here could you help me detect what's wrong? And how can I be sure if I installed the official chipset for my motherboard?

Don't forget to go into the television settings and enable what is known as "game mode".

I did that and I didn't see any difference, I put the information about the monitor, cause somehow it might important, but I really doubt that the monitor is causing this problems. Anyway, later I planning on buying a 144hz monitor, and thanks for the tip!

 

[GerKNG]

MONITOR: Samsung TA550 Syncmaster (Television)

you play on a decade old TV that has mediocre reviews and even back in 2012 reviewers complained about high input lag.

what do you expect?

 

[Lkzz]

you play on a decade old TV that has mediocre reviews and even back in 2012 reviewers complained about high input lag.

what do you expect?

Well I have to agree with you, but like I said, it doens't make sense. With the old PC I didnt't have this problem, unless somehow, this monitor got to "old" for my new config. I am afraid to spend tons of money on a new monitor and don't fix the problem. Because if is not something related to windows or config I will have to start looking for new equips.

 

[Toothless]

Well I have to agree with you, but like I said, it doens't make sense. With the old PC I didnt't have this problem, unless somehow, this monitor got to "old" for my new config. I am afraid to spend tons of money on a new monitor and don't fix the problem. Because if is not something related to windows or config I will have to start looking for new equips.

If the monitor works, why change it? The only time a monitor really dies is if it actually dies.

 

[Lkzz]

If the monitor works, why change it? The only time a monitor really dies is if it actually dies.

I don't know, I think that one day I will have to change it, but like I said before, I dont think that the monitor is the source of the problem, it can make it worse, but buying a new monitor might not solve the problem. Of course, if I have 100% sure that it's causing the problem, I will change it, but for now, I thinking more about some windows config, some of my equipments or even a BIOS config, who knows...

 

[Toothless]

I don't know, I think that one day I will have to change it, but like I said before, I dont think that the monitor is the source of the problem, it can make it worse, but buying a new monitor might not solve the problem. Of course, if I have 100% sure that it's causing the problem, I will change it, but for now, I thinking more about some windows config, some of my equipments or even a BIOS config, who knows...

So, have you tried using the old monitor at all on the new build?

 

[Lkzz]

So, have you tried using the old monitor at all on the new build?

Yes, basically I am using the same monitor now as I used with the old PC. I used one for a while because it had a smaller time response, it has 2ms and this one that I'm using now has 5ms, I'm not sure but the problem started next when I got my monitor (Samsung TA550) back. I don't know if it is a coincidence or the problem is really the monitor, but I need to be 100% sure before buying a brand new monitor.

If it's related to RAM, you will see very high count for page faults. What could cause this? Bad process(es) that leak(s) all your memory, so it's constantly swapped. I don't think slow or memory errors cause page faults.

I think the likely culprit is that when you swapped the motherboard, you didn't install the official chipset drivers for the new motherboard.

So as you can see I runned the test for like an hour I didn't show any problem. I runned while desktop, running CSGO and just searching random things on Google. By looking at it do you can tell if there's any problem?

 

[abactuon]

Nvidia Control Panel Settings of V-Sync to adaptive.

"For PC connection, you must use the HDMI IN 1 (DVI) jack" , no D-Sub

 

[Lkzz]

Nvidia Control Panel Settings of V-Sync to adaptive.

"For PC connection, you must use the HDMI IN 1 (DVI) jack" , no D-Sub

I'm sorry, but I dont get it, what do I exactly need to do?

 

[abactuon]

I have a laptop, for a desktop the picture may be different. Try adjusting the driver.

Some theory _https://www.techspot.com/article/2192-screen-tearing-fix-pc-gaming/

If possible test the monitor with another computer with a discrete graphics card.

 

[crispysilicon]

Yes, basically I am using the same monitor now as I used with the old PC. I used one for a while because it had a smaller time response, it has 2ms and this one that I'm using now has 5ms, I'm not sure but the problem started next when I got my monitor (Samsung TA550) back. I don't know if it is a coincidence or the problem is really the monitor, but I need to be 100% sure before buying a brand new monitor.

It's the monitor. 5ms is ugly. Plug in a different screen and confirm.

Also, in NV control panel, look for low latency mode, can try that as well. Still think it's the monitor.

 

[Toothless]

It's the monitor. 5ms is ugly. Plug in a different screen and confirm.

Also, in NV control panel, look for low latency mode, can try that as well. Still think it's the monitor.

5ms is the standard for the last like, 10 years. Pretty sure it's just some setting that got flicked or the TV is just really, really bad.

 

[AsRock]

5ms is the standard for the last like, 10 years. Pretty sure it's just some setting that got flicked or the TV is just really, really bad.

Depends how it means 5ms right ?, BTW,GTG or what they ever please to do these days.,

 

[Mussels]

Oh man that TV is not gunna be any good for input latency - its a 10 year old TV not designed for gaming at all

remember that the ms ratings are total marketing BS as they measure something like grey to grey, when other colours could crush or smear

 

[delshay]

Don't forget to go into the television settings and enable what is known as "game mode".

In all my years I have never touch this because the type of games I play I don't think it will make any difference., but for the first time in the year 2021 I will take a closer look at this.