Intel 10th Gen Core "Comet Lake" Lineup and Specs Revealed

[efikkan]

Who are we kidding ? No OEM will use the unlocked parts and interestingly enough the 9400F survived just fine without the iGPU and media components.

OEMs don't care about parts being unlocked or not, they care about TDP. Just look at machines like Dell Precision 5820, a professional workstation, using unlocked chips.

The integrated GPU is there because OEMs demand it for certain products, and for now Intel doesn't make separate dies for the retail market. Probably >99% of all K-SKUs sold never use the integrated graphics anyway, so it's a waste of good silicon. I expect when they move to a more MCM design they will drop the integrated graphics in K-SKUs.

 

[dj-electric]

Intel has an issue with pricing stuff fair when they absolutely have the chance to.

 

[Penev91]

All the TDP numbers should be put in quotation marks or reported as 65-ish, 125-ish, etc.

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

I can see the IGP remaining so Intel can continue to fill OEM contracts. Apple, for example, will still leverage the IGP for streaming, even with a dGPU. I’m sure Intel will also have a KF edition, but the early announcement is for the OEM partners.

lols the Thermal velocity Boost

Are we getting a new kind of boost every year?

2021 - Vector Unidirectional Boost
2022 - Space Continuum Boost
2023 - Quantum Entanglement Boost

Ludicrous Speed Boost

 

[ensabrenoir]

.....been away for a minute but never in my wildest dreams did i think the landscape would've changed this much. The next few years will be amazing though....when intel finally gets it right and then Amd responds.....definitely a great time for the pc community.

 

[JackCarver]

10c/20t@4.8GHz all core Turbo looks for me as a nice gaming CPU

 

[E-curbi]

The EVGA Z490 DARK and Maximus XII Apex 2dimm boards should be interesting with beefed-up VRM sections for 10c20t.

Wonder if we'll get 5000Mhz or 5200Mhz ddr4 from Gskill, possibly.

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

2017 - We will fix Spectre/Meltdown
2018 - We will definitely fix Spectre/Meltdown
2019 - We will definitely for sure fix Spectre/Meltdown
2020 - Ooops!

 

[ppn]

Too bad we can't have 8 core icelake backport to 14nm. it would take 399 sq.mm on 14nm.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Imagine paying upward of $400 for a locked processor in 2020.

To be fair those locked skus boost higher than 3900x or 3800x both single and all core.
If 3800x can sell at 400 and 3900x at 500 then 450 for 10900 would be a good middle ground.

 

[E-curbi]

Too bad we can't have 8 core icelake backport to 14nm. it would take 399 sq.mm on 14nm.

Rocket Lake Z495 12months from now. lol

...if rumors become reality.

 

[eidairaman1]

Windows does have the habit of shoveling the work load around the threads faster than the boost algorithm can keep up.
It is true even on 1909, the difference is Windows now juggles the workload within a CCX / CCD for AMD.
As for Intel I am not sure, but most people that got the 9900K just manual OC all the cores so no one really cared about how the boost worked.
For X299 most people got it for multi-threaded work loads so again no one really cared about the favorite core boost.

How to fix, junk w10 for linux

 

[newtekie1]

Wouldn't it be interesting if the i3-10350K ended up being a 6c/6t part?

Imagine paying upward of $400 for a locked processor in 2020.

Considering the vast majority of people don't overclock, it make senses.

 

[AusWolf]

And they are still selling locked CPUs, they just never learn.

I always buy the locked variants for 2 reasons:
1. You can save a significant amount of money buying a locked CPU with a B-series motherboard compared to its unlocked equivalent with a Z-series,
2. I run a m-ITX system, so heat (or the lack of) is more important for me than a few extra MHz - especially for gaming, where the GPU matters more anyway.

To the article: It looks like Intel is pushing hard in the core count race, but does nothing really interesting otherwise. I only use about 60-70% of my i7-7700 in literally every game I play, so I guess Comet Lake will be another generation to skip - or maybe it's time to consider AMD again.

 

[jabbadap]

Wouldn't it be interesting if the i3-10350K ended up being a 6c/6t part?

Considering the vast majority of people don't overclock, it make senses.

Not sure I would like that, unlocked 4c/8t sounds just better for the consistence: i9 10c/20t, i7 8c/16t, i5 6c/12t and i3 4c/8t.

Just have a feeling that those unlocked chips are pushed to the limit already... OC of cpus is a bit dying breed. More limiting factor for those locked CPUs is that low TDP rating, pair them with lower end board and you get a very throttling piece of personal calculator.

 

[Turmania]

I'm disappointed that Intel could not sort out its 10nm process for desktop users.I'm very disappointed with both companies on their TDP ratings.Which honestly should be investigated by the authorities in the U.S. it may even lead to lawsuit which I support against both companies. I would prefer taking turbo boost out.Find a middle ground from base clock to max turbo boost all cores. Let the cpu run with that and adjust tdp to new base speed. If a user wants to overclock then he can at his own liking.

 

[_Flare]

I´m not sure why i can read more than others. I made adjustments to the TPU Chart.

 

[xorbe]

i7 8700K demoted to i3, lol.

 

[_Flare]

i5-10600K has similarities with the i7-8700K, yes.
i3-10320 has similarities with i7-6700.

 

[chodaboy19]

For the two top SKUs i9-10900K and i9-10900 is there a significant difference in real world performance? How much headroom is there to overclock the unlocked K-version? (especially on air cooling)

For the first time it seems that getting the non-K version might save you the headache of overclocking to gain 200MHz?

 

[londiste]

For the two top SKUs i9-10900K and i9-10900 is there a significant difference in real world performance? How much headroom is there to overclock the unlocked K-version? (especially on air cooling)
For the first time it seems that getting the unlocked version might save you the headache of overclocking to gain 200MHz?

125W vs 65W is a big difference. While K model power limit handling on motherboards varies, non-K models are usually handled per spec - 65W with short spike to 81W at the beginning of load.
Single-core or few-core load will not be much different but the heavier the load the more non-K model will fall behind due to lowered clocks.

 

[ppn]

i77700 demoted to i310100, and not surprising if $99 i3 - 8 threads pulls ahead of 9400F that struggles with only 6, despite being real cores.

 

[londiste]

i77700 demoted to i310100, and not surprising if $99 i3 - 8 threads pulls ahead of 9400F that struggles with only 6, despite being real cores.

4c8t and 6c/6t Intel CPUs give pretty much the same performance in games.
7700K tends to pull ahead of 9400F thanks to higher clock speeds, not the extra threads. 9600K that runs largely the same clock speeds as 7700K is largely identical in performance.

I can say the same from personal experience as well, went from i7-6700K to i5-8400 and gaming performance is almost identical.

 

[BArms]

Why are Intel dragging their feet on PCIe 4.0? SSD's are already right at the bandwidth limit that 3.0 x4 can provide.

 

[PanicLake]

The fact that they still have the "premium" K unlocked version is ... something.