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Intel Centerton Atom A True Single-Chip SoC

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Intel has, in the past, referred to its two-chip low-wattage computing solutions as "SoC" (system on a chip), keeping with that trend, it was assumed that "Centerton", an Atom-derived processor for NAS servers that the company is working on, could be a similar 2-chip solution with the tiny NM10 PCH sitting next to the CPU. It is now coming to light that Intel will design Centerton to run as a true single-chip SoC, without the PCH.

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Huh, interesting. I wonder what these cores compare to as far as the other Atoms are concerned. Is this a new architecture or just a rehash of the old but simplified to be single chip? I'm curious what the performance would be.
 

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Huh, interesting. I wonder what these cores compare to as far as the other Atoms are concerned. Is this a new architecture or just a rehash of the old but simplified to be single chip? I'm curious what the performance would be.
It's the same architecture as CedarTrail.
 
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I remember back when atom first came out everyone was so excited and thought it would change the industry. Whatever happened? Don't really see that many netbooks anymore. Maybe they will make a comeback with windows 8 on intel based tablets.
 
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Tablets happen. Because iPad and Galaxy Tab grab the market for themselves. For Internet browsing they are undisputed kings, their browsers are top-notch, hardware acceleration and everything. IPS screen is a lot better than a typical netbook LCD. Browsing the net on a 10" touchscreen seems to be intuitive and pleasant, where on a netbook you don't have mouse but a little 2" touchpad. 10 hour battery life for iPad is real, so is the instant on feture. Also HD media content has no problems beein displayed on tablets, but causing constant lagging on netbooks. Same is valid for 3D games. Hundred of thousands of great looking and sophisticated FPS, adventures, strategy, RPG, sports and racing games are available for tablets, where non can run on a netbook, ain't that a BEACH.
 

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R1 is right, tablets took over because netbooks became clumsiser to use as they got smaller.


same deal as consoles, with lower powered hardware a specially designed OS was needed to save system resources to get movie playback/flash etc working properly.


this is why W8 might be a good thing, as would x86 android - it could really shake up how OS's are designed and run on desktops, giving us a lot more bang for our processing power.
 
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Well, Intel has x86 MeeGo, but not using it. So it is not only OS power savings involved, but CPU architecture itself. For instance ARM11 CPU core is less than 1mm^2@32nm. This helps Samsung to integrate everything in a single chip and stack RAM&NAND on top of it, enabling NAS functionality for a 2.5" HDD enclosure, where Atom is not a SoC and needs additional chips to operate as a computer system . Look at a cheap docking station from Seagate :

 
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Too little too late as others have mentioned. If we had this 2 years ago, the avalanche of new galaxy, transformer and w/e tabs could have been running on intel right now...Too bad $ntel's board of directors cares only about making a quick buck and lacks any form of forward thinking.