• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Intel Confirms Soldered IHS for 9th Gen Core Series

Joined
Dec 28, 2012
Messages
1,149 (0.48/day)
I want that 9700K designed with no iGPU in mind, not a disabled P version. HEDT is too damn expensive..
So you want an HDET chip without the HDET price, when the disabled version will not draw any extra power, as has been established time and time again?

Protip: stop being poor and begging for such a chip. If you dont want to pay intel prices, buy AMD. Intel isnt going to make an extra special die cheap for you guys that dont want to pay for it, stop asking for it.
 
Joined
Jan 8, 2017
Messages
4,122 (4.59/day)
System Name Good enough
Processor AMD Ryzen R7 1700X - 4.0 Ghz / 1.350V
Motherboard ASRock B450M Pro4
Cooling Scythe Katana 4 - 3x 120mm case fans
Memory 16GB - Corsair Vengeance LPX
Video Card(s) OEM Dell GTX 1080
Storage 1x Samsung 850 EVO 250GB , 1x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB
Display(s) 4K Samsung TV
Case Zalman R1
Power Supply 500W
Not sure how much we should care about HT these days. It would be nice if somebody with a processor with a lot of cores (8 or more) could run a few tests to see what the difference is with it on and off.
The usefulness of HT decreases with the number of cores to the point where it might even hurt multithreaded performance. This isn't exactly news but it's largely unknown to most people.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/hpc/Hyper-Threading-may-be-Killing-your-Parallel-Performance-578/

Single core performance can be hurt too by hyperthreading.
 
Joined
Nov 1, 2017
Messages
341 (0.57/day)
Location
Canada, Quebec
The 9th gen seems awesome, but I just can't give my money to Intel anymore. They just abused too much of their monopoly and I would feel stupid to do like nothing ever happenned. It encourages that kind of attitude towards consumers; just like EA and Activision do with their shitty games and microtransaction.

I mean, yeah the goal is to do money thanks to capitalism, but can't they respect us a bit at least and not take us for plain morons?
 
Joined
Jun 28, 2016
Messages
2,380 (2.18/day)
Doubling of core counts.
Both 6C and 8C CPUs must have been in works for years. Intel might have delayed them to lower costs, but there isn't that much revolution.
But sure, if AMD wasn't so busy ruining itself, Intel might have given us those 6 cores a year earlier or something.
Launching a new generation of CPUs without changing the socket or chipset.
???
It's a second generation using the same platform, so pretty much what Intel has been doing for a while.
Next gen will use a different socket.
Going back to solder.
This I didn't expect. I actually believe it's a reaction to users' expectations more than an actual engineering necessity.
Of course most clients don't care what's under the heatsink, but at least all the internet/review TIM criticism will be gone.
All in less than a year, interesting how quickly things have changed.
So now what? You'll become an Intel fanboy now or are we doomed to years of "thank you AMD"? :)
 
Joined
Feb 18, 2012
Messages
1,468 (0.55/day)
System Name MSI GE75 Raider
Processor i7-8750h
Cooling 2 laptop fans
Memory 32gb of 2666mhz DDR4
Video Card(s) Nvidia 2070
Storage Seagate FireCuda 2tb SSHD , x1 Western Digital 2TB M.2
Display(s) 17.3" IPS 1920x1080 120Hz
Power Supply 230w power supply
Mouse Logitech m705
Keyboard laptop keyboard
Software lots of movies and Windows 10 with win 7 shell
Benchmark Scores High enough for me
Actually autistic people are often very logical, so did you mean to say "not-autistic"?
My son is autistic, little man can do college level math, but sucks at English. Still proud of him.
 
Joined
Aug 6, 2017
Messages
4,095 (5.93/day)
Location
Poland
System Name skurwiel szatan
Processor i7 5775c @4.3GHz/1.385v/EDRAM @2GHz
Motherboard Z97X Gaming 5
Cooling Noctua D15S
Memory Crucial Ballistix Tactical LP 1600 CL8 @2133 CL8
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 1080 Ti Gaming X Trio 2GHz
Storage SU900 128 (OS)/850 PRO 256+256+ 512,860 EVO 500,XPG SX950U 480 (games)/4TB of external HDDs (3+1)
Display(s) Acer XB241YU+Dell S2716DG dual monitor setup
Case Full tower
Audio Device(s) Mad Catz FREQ wireless
Power Supply Superflower Leadex Gold 850W
Mouse G403 wireless + Steelseries DeX + Roccat rest
Keyboard Razer Deathstalker
Software Windows 10
Benchmark Scores A LOT
My son is autistic, little man can do college level math, but sucks at English. Still proud of him.
They can generally do exceptionally well in one field, in others they are usually not that devoted,and frankly you're better off NOT pushing them too hard in what they do not want to do. They are very goal oriented people. Dealt with some kids like that,they're usually so kind and sincere in everything they do.

btw I wonder what's next, 10900K ? Y2K ?

@RejZoR please school us on this one ;):laugh:
 
Last edited:
Joined
Nov 23, 2010
Messages
104 (0.03/day)
Will intel ever increase the number of PCIe lanes for non-HEDT? I'd like to get Optane PCIe SSD but don't really need to invest in an X-series CPU/platform...
 
Joined
Feb 18, 2012
Messages
1,468 (0.55/day)
System Name MSI GE75 Raider
Processor i7-8750h
Cooling 2 laptop fans
Memory 32gb of 2666mhz DDR4
Video Card(s) Nvidia 2070
Storage Seagate FireCuda 2tb SSHD , x1 Western Digital 2TB M.2
Display(s) 17.3" IPS 1920x1080 120Hz
Power Supply 230w power supply
Mouse Logitech m705
Keyboard laptop keyboard
Software lots of movies and Windows 10 with win 7 shell
Benchmark Scores High enough for me
They can generally do exceptionally well in one field, in others they are usually not that devoted,and frankly you're better off NOT pushing them too hard in what they do not want to do. They are very goal oriented people. Dealt with some kids like that,they're usually so kind and sincere in everything they do.

btw I wonder what's next, 10900K ? Y2K ?

@RejZoR please school us on this one ;):laugh:
y2k was 18 years ago
 
Joined
Aug 6, 2017
Messages
4,095 (5.93/day)
Location
Poland
System Name skurwiel szatan
Processor i7 5775c @4.3GHz/1.385v/EDRAM @2GHz
Motherboard Z97X Gaming 5
Cooling Noctua D15S
Memory Crucial Ballistix Tactical LP 1600 CL8 @2133 CL8
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 1080 Ti Gaming X Trio 2GHz
Storage SU900 128 (OS)/850 PRO 256+256+ 512,860 EVO 500,XPG SX950U 480 (games)/4TB of external HDDs (3+1)
Display(s) Acer XB241YU+Dell S2716DG dual monitor setup
Case Full tower
Audio Device(s) Mad Catz FREQ wireless
Power Supply Superflower Leadex Gold 850W
Mouse G403 wireless + Steelseries DeX + Roccat rest
Keyboard Razer Deathstalker
Software Windows 10
Benchmark Scores A LOT
Will intel ever increase the number of PCIe lanes for non-HEDT? I'd like to get Optane PCIe SSD but don't really need to invest in an X-series CPU/platform...
And what is stopping you exactly ? You can do full speed optane raid on z370.
 
Joined
Jun 10, 2014
Messages
1,580 (0.86/day)
6 and 8 core CPU's without HT in 2018. Clock or not, this is incredibly poor…
And double the threads are way superior to whatever you clock half as much threads for loads that require them. Given how basically everything is multithreaded without limitations these days, having just physical cores and no SMT is just ridiculous. Unless it's a budget CPU where cuts need to be made and is understandable. It sure as hell isn't on a product that will cost 400€ for sure.
SMT(like HT) made sense back when we had one Pentium 4 core, but as CPUs have gotten much more efficient, more cores, and much more complex, the costs of implementing SMT are getting too high. SMT is a trade-off, it utilizes idle cycles for other threads, at the cost of lowering single thread performance and increasing latency. This is why it may hurt e.g. gaming, but it actually sucks for any synchronous task. Modern desktop CPUs are highly reliant on an efficient prefetcher and cache, SMT hurts both. SMT adds scheduling overhead for the OS kernel, and with increasing core count the benefits are diminishing, especially with uneven workloads. You can of course disable SMT in software, but it's still wasted die space. The only place where SMT makes sense any more is in specialized server workloads, where only total efficiency matters, and there is a massive amount of threads (e.g. enterprise Java code or web servers). I haven't heard any indication of Intel dropping SMT, but I think they should. They can start with the consumer lineup. Another issue with SMT is that most IPC improvements will make SMT less efficient, since SMT relies on utilizing idle cycles.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Aug 6, 2017
Messages
4,095 (5.93/day)
Location
Poland
System Name skurwiel szatan
Processor i7 5775c @4.3GHz/1.385v/EDRAM @2GHz
Motherboard Z97X Gaming 5
Cooling Noctua D15S
Memory Crucial Ballistix Tactical LP 1600 CL8 @2133 CL8
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 1080 Ti Gaming X Trio 2GHz
Storage SU900 128 (OS)/850 PRO 256+256+ 512,860 EVO 500,XPG SX950U 480 (games)/4TB of external HDDs (3+1)
Display(s) Acer XB241YU+Dell S2716DG dual monitor setup
Case Full tower
Audio Device(s) Mad Catz FREQ wireless
Power Supply Superflower Leadex Gold 850W
Mouse G403 wireless + Steelseries DeX + Roccat rest
Keyboard Razer Deathstalker
Software Windows 10
Benchmark Scores A LOT
I know for sure know 2018 is the year from which one on I'll no longer buy a HT CPU ever.

Thank you AMD :love: Now ditch SMT and release a CPU with 8 core CCX on 7nm.
 

HTC

Joined
Apr 1, 2008
Messages
3,600 (0.88/day)
Location
Portugal
System Name HTC's System
Processor Ryzen 5 2600X
Motherboard Asrock Taichi X370
Cooling NH-C14, with the AM4 mounting kit
Memory G.Skill Kit 16GB DDR4 F4 - 3200 C16D - 16 GTZB
Video Card(s) Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 480 OC 4 GB
Storage 1 Samsung NVMe 960 EVO 250 GB + 1 3.5" Seagate IronWolf Pro 6TB 7200RPM 256MB SATA III
Display(s) LG 27UD58
Case Fractal Design Define R6 USB-C
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Corsair TX 850M 80+ Gold
Mouse Razer Deathadder Elite
Software Ubuntu 19.04 LTS
Everyone knows when Intel's "goo pasted" chips get delidded, they get better thermals and therefore are able to have better stock / turbo speeds and be OCed higher (not always, but most of the time). That is the REAL reason for Intel to go with soldering.

AMD's "threat" is closing in and Intel, in an effort to remain in the lead for a longer period while they come up with a proper reply to Ryzen's performance AND scalability, are pulling "all the stops". This move will guarantee their continued lead in single threaded performance (which is already significant) and hope to stay that way by the time Zen 2 products are launched.

For those that wish to discuss the recent security flaws, there's a topic for that already in the news section: suggest we use it when discussing that specific issue.
 
Joined
Nov 13, 2007
Messages
7,143 (1.68/day)
Location
Austin Texas
System Name Q
Processor Intel i7 7820X Delidded @ 4.7 Ghz / 3.3 Ghz Mesh
Motherboard MSI X299 Tomahawk
Cooling 120mm Custom Liquid
Memory 32 GB Quad 3800 Mhz DDR4 17-17-17-36-360-2T
Video Card(s) Gigabyte GTX 2080 Ti Windforce (Undervolted OC)
Storage 1Tb Samsung 960 Pro m2, 2TB SATA SSD
Display(s) Dell 24" 2560x1440 144hz, G-Sync @ 165Hz
Case Jonsbo U4 Compact ATX
Audio Device(s) Arctis 7
Power Supply Corsair SF750
Mouse 6D G402
Keyboard tenkeyless
Software Windows 10 64 Bit
Benchmark Scores 5011 Cinebench
I know for sure know 2018 is the year from which one on I'll no longer buy a HT CPU ever.

Thank you AMD :love: Now ditch SMT and release a CPU with 8 core CCX on 7nm.
AMD's SMT is actually good though.
 
Joined
Jan 8, 2017
Messages
4,122 (4.59/day)
System Name Good enough
Processor AMD Ryzen R7 1700X - 4.0 Ghz / 1.350V
Motherboard ASRock B450M Pro4
Cooling Scythe Katana 4 - 3x 120mm case fans
Memory 16GB - Corsair Vengeance LPX
Video Card(s) OEM Dell GTX 1080
Storage 1x Samsung 850 EVO 250GB , 1x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB
Display(s) 4K Samsung TV
Case Zalman R1
Power Supply 500W
AMD's SMT is actually good though.
Nah, it has more or less the same deficiencies with scalability but at the very least they don't charge extra for it.
 
Joined
Mar 14, 2014
Messages
570 (0.30/day)
Processor i7-4790K 4.4GHz @1.18v
Motherboard ASUS Maximus Hero VII Z97
Cooling Noctua NH-U14S
Memory G. Skill Trident X 2x8GB 2133MHz
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 970 SC @ 1442MHz
Storage OS on 120GB Kingston SSDNow V300, Samsung 850 Pro 512GB , 3TB Hitachi HDD, 2x5TB Toshiba X300
Display(s) Lenovo y27g
Case Fractal Design Define R4
Audio Device(s) AKG Q701's w/ O2+ODAC (Sounds a little bright)
Power Supply EVGA Supernova G2 850w
Mouse OG Steelseries Rival
Keyboard Rosewill Full Size. Red Switches. Blue Leds. RK-9100xBRE - Hate this. way to big
Software Win10
Benchmark Scores 3DMark FireStrike Score : 10299
So you want an HDET chip without the HDET price, when the disabled version will not draw any extra power, as has been established time and time again?

Protip: stop being poor and begging for such a chip. If you dont want to pay intel prices, buy AMD. Intel isnt going to make an extra special die cheap for you guys that dont want to pay for it, stop asking for it.
It used to be affordable. Its not anymore. And its HEDT. The percentage of people of people that will NEVER use the iGPU on their unlocked 5GHz CPU far outweighs the percentage who use it even just once I imagine. I'll even take another 5775C with that L4 cache.

You got some controlling vibes coming off you. Swear you tried to tell me what to do.

Why just roll over and not ask for it? Why not just roll over on non-soldered chips too? You can have goo paste ones since you don't really mind and are drowning in so much cash that you just buy em by the lot from silicon lottery who will fix them for you. Since you're so rich and all, bet my johnson is bigger, after you lose maybe I could finally afford HEDT.
 
Joined
Sep 25, 2012
Messages
2,075 (0.84/day)
Location
Jacksonhole Florida
System Name DEVIL'S ABYSS
Processor i7-4790K@4.6 GHz
Motherboard Asus Z97-Deluxe
Cooling Corsair H110 (2 x 140mm)(3 x 140mm case fans)
Memory 16GB Adata XPG V2 2400MHz
Video Card(s) EVGA 780 Ti Classified
Storage Intel 750 Series 400GB (AIC), Plextor M6e 256GB (M.2), 13 TB storage
Display(s) Crossover 27QW (27"@ 2560x1440)
Case Corsair Obsidian 750D Airflow
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC1150
Power Supply Cooler Master V1000
Mouse Ttsports Talon Blu
Keyboard Logitech G510
Software Windows 10 Pro x64 version 1803
Benchmark Scores Passmark CPU score = 13080
Since you're so rich and all, bet my johnson is bigger, after you lose maybe I could finally afford HEDT.
So now we need a thread for member's dick pics, so anyone losing an argument in a thread can just link to the TPU Dick Database. Or better yet, everyone could make their avatar from their dick pic, with a ruler/yardstick for scale. Epeen gone wild! If you have a small dick - no posting allowed, come back after you work out with your peter pump. But what about our female members? Tit pics?
(disclaimer - this post was sarcastic, I do not advocate that TPU be turned into a showcase for photo-shopped genitalia!)
 
Joined
Aug 6, 2017
Messages
4,095 (5.93/day)
Location
Poland
System Name skurwiel szatan
Processor i7 5775c @4.3GHz/1.385v/EDRAM @2GHz
Motherboard Z97X Gaming 5
Cooling Noctua D15S
Memory Crucial Ballistix Tactical LP 1600 CL8 @2133 CL8
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 1080 Ti Gaming X Trio 2GHz
Storage SU900 128 (OS)/850 PRO 256+256+ 512,860 EVO 500,XPG SX950U 480 (games)/4TB of external HDDs (3+1)
Display(s) Acer XB241YU+Dell S2716DG dual monitor setup
Case Full tower
Audio Device(s) Mad Catz FREQ wireless
Power Supply Superflower Leadex Gold 850W
Mouse G403 wireless + Steelseries DeX + Roccat rest
Keyboard Razer Deathstalker
Software Windows 10
Benchmark Scores A LOT
AMD's SMT is actually good though.
https://www.purepc.pl/procesory/test_procesorow_amd_ryzen_5_2600x_vs_intel_core_i5_8600k?page=0,46

it's hit or miss, according to the results I posted

+14%
+0,8%
-1,9%

+2,3%
-1,5%
-1,7%

+6,5%
+23%
+16%
+11%

it had helped to gain 10-15% in 3 cases out of 10, in just as many performance was lost,though only marginally. You could see over 20% in only one, 3 out of 10 had either minimal or very small gains.

It does on AMD what it does on Intel,meaning it only helps in very specific conditions. Ideally you'd rather have more physical cores than SMT. It may seem SMT is better but that's just cause it helps Ryzen more as this chip is more multi thread oriented with lower single core performance and higher latency. Intel has better single core performance,therefore you achieve slightly lower CPU load on physical cores,which in turn translates to HT making less difference on Intel cpus than SMT does to AMD ones.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jun 28, 2016
Messages
2,380 (2.18/day)
Nah, it has more or less the same deficiencies with scalability but at the very least they don't charge extra for it.
How exactly is Intel charging extra for HT?
Do you even slightly understand how CPUs are produced and positioned? :)
Everyone knows when Intel's "goo pasted" chips get delidded, they get better thermals and therefore are able to have better stock / turbo speeds and be OCed higher (not always, but most of the time). That is the REAL reason for Intel to go with soldering.
Every CPU will transfer heat faster after delidding. You mean replacing the conductor, right?
How can they have better stock speeds after that? Stock speeds are fixed.

We've seen overclocked 7700K pulling 150W and working perfectly well with the factory TIM.
There's enough headroom for 6 and 8-core CPUs (without OC, obviously).
Ryzen's performance AND scalability, are pulling "all the stops"
When will people learn that the "scalability" is simply a cost lowering idea. It hurts the performance.
We all should be hoping that Intel can keep designing CPUs how they used to (and selling it at higher prices).
 
Joined
Jan 17, 2006
Messages
833 (0.17/day)
Location
Ireland
System Name Cubed
Processor R7 1800X
Motherboard ASRock X370 Gaming Pro
Cooling Custom 3 radiator loop for CPU and GPUs, D5 pump
Memory 32GB (4 x 8GB) Team 4000MHz @ 3200MHz
Video Card(s) 2 x Vega 64 with single slot full cover blocks
Storage Samsung 970 Evo 512GB NVMe
Display(s) BenQ BL3200
Case Corsair Carbide 540
Audio Device(s) On board
Power Supply Corsair HX1200i
Mouse Roccat Leadr
Keyboard K95 RGB
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
Benchmark Scores #1 worldwide on 3D Mark 99 or 2000 or one of those, at one point back in the day. :)
You lost me at the "and selling it for higher prices".
 

HTC

Joined
Apr 1, 2008
Messages
3,600 (0.88/day)
Location
Portugal
System Name HTC's System
Processor Ryzen 5 2600X
Motherboard Asrock Taichi X370
Cooling NH-C14, with the AM4 mounting kit
Memory G.Skill Kit 16GB DDR4 F4 - 3200 C16D - 16 GTZB
Video Card(s) Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 480 OC 4 GB
Storage 1 Samsung NVMe 960 EVO 250 GB + 1 3.5" Seagate IronWolf Pro 6TB 7200RPM 256MB SATA III
Display(s) LG 27UD58
Case Fractal Design Define R6 USB-C
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Corsair TX 850M 80+ Gold
Mouse Razer Deathadder Elite
Software Ubuntu 19.04 LTS
Every CPU will transfer heat faster after delidding. You mean replacing the conductor, right?
How can they have better stock speeds after that? Stock speeds are fixed.

We've seen overclocked 7700K pulling 150W and working perfectly well with the factory TIM.
There's enough headroom for 6 and 8-core CPUs (without OC, obviously).
I worded it wrong: what i mean was with the big temps reduction they get from the soldering VS TIM, they can increase the stock voltages and this will lower the temps and also increase the OCing headroom.

They could have a version of the 8600K soldered and with a slight base clock jump and make a "new chip" out of it ...

... Oh wait ...

That's what the I5-9600K is ...
 
Joined
Feb 13, 2009
Messages
315 (0.08/day)
Processor Intel Core i7 8700K
Motherboard ROG STRIX Z370-G GAMING AC
Cooling Corsair H115i Pro RGB
Memory G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16GB DDR4 3200Mhz
Video Card(s) Gigabyte GTX 1070 G1
Storage Samsung 970 Evo 500GB
Display(s) Dell S2417DG 165Hz
Case NZXT H400i
Power Supply Corsair AX760
Mouse Razer Deathadder Chroma
Keyboard Cooler Master - Masterkeys Pro L RGB
Software Windows 10 Pro 64Bit


read the fine print asterisk



Wait and see until one of the OCers delids one
There is an asterisk at the OPTANE listing ....
 
Joined
Jun 8, 2011
Messages
4,317 (1.47/day)
Location
Somerset, UK
System Name Not so complete or overkill
Processor 5960X @ 4.20Ghz @ 1.06v - For Crunching!!
Motherboard MSI X99 Titanium Gaming
Cooling Custom loop with old bits and pieces that I need to replace
Memory G Skill TridentX 3466 non RGB..
Video Card(s) 2 x EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition
Storage Sandisk 120Gb SSD, 2 x 2Tb Sammy 3.5" drives - Need more drives!!
Display(s) 3 x 23" LG IPS panels (can't remember model!!)
Case 10mm thick MDF on plastic risers.. It's kinda a case??
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply EVGA T2 1200w
Mouse Corsair thingy
Keyboard Corsair thingy
Software Windows 10
Benchmark Scores It's not to bad.. More importantly, it works!!
I'm not seeing a real reason to be upgrading my 5960X any time soon... I have no money but that's aside from the point.. No Intel CPU's for me for the foreseeable future...
 
Joined
Nov 15, 2016
Messages
219 (0.23/day)
System Name Sillicon Nightmares
Processor Intel i5 4690K (4.7GHZ 1.372vcore, 4.0GHZ 1.192vring, VCCIN 1.84v)
Motherboard Asrock Fatal1ty Z97X Killer BIOS P2.40
Cooling DEEPCOOL Gamer Storm CAPTAIN 360
Memory 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaws V 2400mhz 10-14-13-32 2T, vDIMM 1.775v
Video Card(s) ASUS GTX 1060 Strix 6GB OC, Core: 2190mhz, Vcore: 1.075v, Mem: 4909mhz (Sillicon Lottery Jackpot)
Storage Samsung 840 EVO 1TB SSD, WD Blue 1TB
Display(s) BenQ XL2430 1080p 144HZ + (2) Samsung SyncMaster 913v 1280x1024 75HZ + A Shitty TV For Movies
Case Deepcool Genome ROG Edition
Audio Device(s) Bunta Sniff Speakers From The Tip Edition
Power Supply Corsair CX430M + CableMod Cables
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Shitty Dell Office Keyboard
Software Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit
Benchmark Scores 12 101 Firestrike (3rd for my hardware)
6 and 8 core CPU's without HT in 2018. Clock or not, this is incredibly poor. I have a 6 core CPU with 12 threads. Sure, it doesn't clock to 4.x out of the box, but come on, with manual overclocking, I have it at 4.5GHz and 12 freaking threads. TWELVE! The IPC gain is nowhere near as significant as some say it is on newer CPU's, it's basically just gains from higher clocks. 5820K is 4 years old. One would expect things from HEDT to finally trickle down to normies ranges by now. I guess Intel just can't get out of their skin...

9600K should be 6c/12t
9700K should be 8c/16t
9900K should be 10c/20t

With HEDT far beyond that starting at 16c/32t. Sigh.
i5 = 4/8
i7 = 6/12
i9 = 8/16 would have been better
 
Joined
Sep 25, 2012
Messages
2,075 (0.84/day)
Location
Jacksonhole Florida
System Name DEVIL'S ABYSS
Processor i7-4790K@4.6 GHz
Motherboard Asus Z97-Deluxe
Cooling Corsair H110 (2 x 140mm)(3 x 140mm case fans)
Memory 16GB Adata XPG V2 2400MHz
Video Card(s) EVGA 780 Ti Classified
Storage Intel 750 Series 400GB (AIC), Plextor M6e 256GB (M.2), 13 TB storage
Display(s) Crossover 27QW (27"@ 2560x1440)
Case Corsair Obsidian 750D Airflow
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC1150
Power Supply Cooler Master V1000
Mouse Ttsports Talon Blu
Keyboard Logitech G510
Software Windows 10 Pro x64 version 1803
Benchmark Scores Passmark CPU score = 13080
i2 = 2c2t
i3 = 2c4t
i4 = 4c4t
i5 = 4c8t
i6 = 6c6t
i7 = 6c12t
i8 = 8c8t
i9 = 8c16t
i10 = 10c10t
...and so on in the same progression, right through the HEDT lineup
All unlocked, all soldered
The even-numbered CPUs all designate actual core/thread count, the odd-numbered CPUs are all hyper-threaded - once you know these 2 simple facts, you can figure out where any CPU belongs in the heirarchy.
It's clean, decisive, ends any confusion, and all possible permutations are covered - meaning Intel will never go for it!
 
Top