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The Core i5-11400F is Intel's most affordable Rocket Lake processor. While its multiplier is locked, you can still adjust the power limit. Once we did that, the CPU ran over 15% faster and almost matched the Core i5-11600K. We also made an interesting discovery regarding Gear 1 vs. Gear 2.

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I dont understand how Intel managed to screw up the memory controller. Pulling so much power and not able to hit the speeds that the 10th gen could hit. Rocket lake really is a half baked design. And still requiring a Z series chipset to hit 3200+ is lame.

Still the 11400f is an interesting product, if it wern't for the 10400 being available at $160 and the 10400f being $155. Still I guess you could say the 11400f is worth it for a budget gaming rig. AMD needs something in this price range to compete after their 50%+ price hike for the 5600x before scalping.
 
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wait what
I thought Intel enabled Memory OC on B560 and H570 boards ...
 
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You got blank CPU lid?
damn, luckily mine is retail package. 11700K and 11900K blank lidded tho (11900K had to be replaced from the kit, to another unit, that was surprisingly enough blank.)
Internally, I reckon Intel use mostly blank lid CPUs.
 
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wait what
I thought Intel enabled Memory OC on B560 and H570 boards ...
They did enable memory oc, that is to say technically anything over 2666 is considered overclocked memory. You can only enable up to 2933 for non k skus on non z series boards.
 

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What really displeases me is how tacked-together and unfinished the whole Rocket Lake platform feels. The BIOSes have numerous bugs that are completely obvious to anyone using them for more than 10 minutes. Maybe this is not Intel's fault, but since AMD introduced AGESA, a common-base software stack, things have gotten much better for the red team. POST times have always been good with Intel, but I'm now sometimes sitting at A2 (VGA) for 20 seconds, with an occasional double boot when changing a BIOS setting, which we criticized AMD for in the past. This whole experience reminds me of the first generation of Ryzen.
Oh man, the more I read about Rocket Lake the worse it becomes. It's a lemon for sure so I'm not gonna touch it.

I've got a friend who's looking to buy one of the lower end models, perhaps this one. I'll make sure to show him this paragraph. He might just think twice about it.

It's really something how my decade old 2700K is still running like a champ and feels snappy in everything. The only real differences one notices are that the mobo can't take NVMe SSDs, it can't hit the highest framerates in many modern games and doesn't have the latest version of USB - none of these are dealbreakers for my usage. It was a fabulous investment and I'm gonna make sure that whatever I replace it with is actually gonna be better. Ryzen is looking like that candidate at the moment. I'll wait for Alder Lake before evaluating the market again.
 
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Honestly this is pretty painful. Another year without gaming improvements. I bought the 11500 just because I was bored and I knew the 11400 would do so badly and no longer interested in the 10400. The stock fan bearing is very loud, just like with AMD, so I still needed to buy an extra CPU cooler, though I was pleasantly surprised the newer black cooler was included. At least it looks better, so that is great for resale. Was hitting 100 degrees also without the power limit.

The 11400 and 11500 are clearly the best of Rocket Lake, but that is sure not saying much. In Canada I paid $270 CAD for the 11500 vs. $200 for the 10400, making it a silly waste of money, but I did put a PCIe 4.0 drive in there so it was worth it for me. Also this is a second computer and I can't find a GPU for it so I wanted the faster XE graphics (even if they are too slow also).

I would kill for a Ryzen 5000G series right now. Give us some cheaper 5600G as soon as possible. In fact when you read this review the sentiment is basically "come on AMD, we know you can do better, please release a product!" :)
 

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Don't suppose you still have the test rig on hand?


Shows newer beta BIOS that includes a microcode update.
 
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Oh man, the more I read about Rocket Lake the worse it becomes. It's a lemon for sure so I'm not gonna touch it.

I've got a friend who's looking to buy one of the lower end models, perhaps this one. I'll make sure to show him this paragraph. He might just think twice about it.

It's really something how my decade old 2700K is still running like a champ and feels snappy in everything. The only real differences one notices are that the mobo can't take NVMe SSDs, it can't hit the highest framerates in many modern games and doesn't have the latest version of USB - none of these are dealbreakers for my usage. It was a fabulous investment and I'm gonna make sure that whatever I replace it with is actually gonna be better. Ryzen is looking like that candidate at the moment. I'll wait for Alder Lake before evaluating the market again.
A 2700K would've been the dream CPU to the Pentium G620 having young me. I respect you for holding onto it for so long when there's no need to replace it.

As for this review, I have lost the last bit of hope I had for this generation and this is why:



But hey, at least it's affordable and I imagine there will be more stock compared to AMD.
 
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A 2700K would've been the dream CPU to the Pentium G620 having young me. I respect you for holding onto it for so long when there's no need to replace it.

As for this review, I have lost the last bit of hope I had for this generation and this is why:



But hey, at least it's affordable and I imagine there will be more stock compared to AMD.

"A side note, if you are using XMP timings, with Gear 2, then make sure to double check that you're running with "1T" timing mode set in BIOS. Since Gear 2 halves the memory controller frequency, a delay of 1T becomes 2T (at Gear 1). So if your XMP profile specifies "2T" command rate, then setting 2T with Gear 2 would actually mean 4T. "

Running gear 2 anywhere close to where you CAN be running gear 1 is sheer stupidity. RAM needs to be a good deal faster than gear 1 can deal with to be worth it,.

 
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I dont understand how Intel managed to screw up the memory controller. Pulling so much power and not able to hit the speeds that the 10th gen could hit. Rocket lake really is a half baked design. And still requiring a Z series chipset to hit 3200+ is lame.

Still the 11400f is an interesting product, if it wern't for the 10400 being available at $160 and the 10400f being $155. Still I guess you could say the 11400f is worth it for a budget gaming rig. AMD needs something in this price range to compete after their 50%+ price hike for the 5600x before scalping.
You must’ve read it wrong, because even manufacturers advertise being able to set xmp profiles to 4GHz+ on b560 boards as a feature of these new midrange boards.

They did enable memory oc, that is to say technically anything over 2666 is considered overclocked memory. You can only enable up to 2933 for non k skus on non z series boards.
You can set your memory on b560 to pretty much whatever your xmp allows. Not only up to 2933. It was the case for 10 series and b460 boards, but not anymore. https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b560-i-gaming-wifi-model/

This is a much better buy than the overpriced 5600x.
Exactly. Paired with b560 board you spend less for both than 5600 only for pretty similar gaming results overall.
 
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The 11400F along with the 11700F are going to be the best of the bunch imo.



 
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Why ASUS Z490 Maximus XII Extreme for a budget CPU? Can i use H410 (H510?) 460 560 mainboards with this cpu or 10400f and get same Ram speeds? If i can't what Rams i should get max, 3000 3200 3600 etc
 
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Why ASUS Z490 Maximus XII Extreme for a budget CPU? Can i use H410 (H510?) 460 560 mainboards with this cpu or 10400f and get same Ram speeds? If i can't what Rams i should get max, 3000 3200 3600 etc
B560, H570 and H510 boards.
 
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B560, H570 and H510 boards.
Thanks, never saw H570 on local store lists before, i will check it. I was told not to buy H410 for 10400f but that person didn't give me any websites, guides or good explanation about rams etc, it was really confusing. Have a great day.
 
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They did enable memory oc, that is to say technically anything over 2666 is considered overclocked memory. You can only enable up to 2933 for non k skus on non z series boards.
4 x DIMM, Max. 128GB, DDR4 5333(OC)/5000(OC)/4800(OC)/4600(OC)/4400(OC)/4266(OC)/4000(OC)/3733(OC)/3600(OC)/3466(OC)/3333(OC)/3200/2933/2800/2666/2400/2133 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory

DDR4 5000(OC)/4800(OC)/4600(OC)/4400(OC)/4266(OC)/4000(OC)/3733(OC)/3600(OC)/3466(OC)/3333(OC)/3200/2933/2800/2666/2400/2133 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory.

11th Generation Intel Core i9/i7/i5 processors:
Support for DDR4 5333(O.C.)/ DDR4 5133(O.C.)/DDR4 5000(O.C.)/4933(O.C.)/4800(O.C.)/ 4700(O.C.)/ 4600(O.C.)/ 4500(O.C.)/ 4400(O.C.)/ 4300(O.C.)/4266(O.C.) / 4133(O.C.) / 4000(O.C.) / 3866(O.C.) / 3800(O.C.) / 3733(O.C.) / 3666(O.C.) / 3600(O.C.) / 3466(O.C.) / 3400(O.C.) / 3333(O.C.) / 3300(O.C.) / 3200 / 3000 / 2933 / 2800 / 2666 / 2400 / 2133 MHz memory modules
 
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Well, seems like RKL again is mostly boosting productivity and loses something in gaming, same as the other reviews and likely a result of the new MC / cache.

So the interesting thing I see here on the 11400 is the wide flexibility by unlocking power limits.

On productivity, the max power 11400F managed +15.2 to +17.4% higher performance than the stock settings part.

That is absolutely huge, vaulting it above the 3700X and 9900K and in spitting distance of a 10700K and 5600X. The 10400F by comparison, doing the same power unlock and BCLK boosts only added 3.2%.

The cost of course is the power consumption. I'm not liking seeing a 200W max power on this chip, even if it is power unlocked. On my 10400, I never got it to pull more than 90W for just an instant when power unlocked / bclk 102.5. I'm sure under an AVX stress test it would've gone higher - but not a lot higher.

Still we are talking extremes, on Intel systems one can simply adjust the turbo boost power max to whatever your cooler can handle - and that can be done dynamically without a reboot. I set mine for 165W, as that is what I determined my air cooler can handle on my 10850K and keep CPU below 85C under full load. It's as easy as adjusting this bar, and hitting apply :

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And the result can be this difference in performance, cooler allowing. Reminds me of the 'Turbo' button a lot of PCs had back in the 80s and 90s.


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Ironically, at stock settings, the 11400 is the coolest running chip on the charts, while boosted it is the hottest running chip :


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Come on guys, the 5600X is a next gen CPU (that is the most power efficient CPU ever also), the 11400f has zero gaming improvement vs the 10400f. The same people that tell everyone to spend $100 more of the K series are now attacking the 5600X, bizarre. The 5600X is the best and has a price to match. AMD's turbo is much more accurate, my 5600X runs at 4.85Ghz all the time with a free PBO, my 11500 gets 4.3Ghz at best for the most part. There's a pretty big gap. Since in Canada for example you save $100 on the motherboard not needing to pay for a Z board, the 5600X is still the best overall CPU. I can build 5600X plus B550 for much less money than 11600k plus Z590.
 
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Come on guys, the 5600X is a next gen CPU (that is the most power efficient CPU ever also), the 11400f has zero gaming improvement vs the 10400f. The same people that tell everyone to spend $100 more of the K series are now attacking the 5600X, bizarre. The 5600X is the best and has a price to match. AMD's turbo is much more accurate, my 5600X runs at 4.85Ghz all the time with a free PBO, my 11500 gets 4.3Ghz at best for the most part. There's a pretty big gap. Since in Canada for example you save $100 on the motherboard not needing to pay for a Z board, the 5600X is still the best overall CPU. I can build 5600X plus B550 for much less money than 11600k plus Z590.

Nobody said it was faster than a 5600X. This chip doesn't compete in price with the 5600X, the 11600K and 10700K do.

AMD doesn't have anything competitive in this price range.

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Come on guys, the 5600X is a next gen CPU (that is the most power efficient CPU ever also), the 11400f has zero gaming improvement vs the 10400f. The same people that tell everyone to spend $100 more of the K series are now attacking the 5600X, bizarre. The 5600X is the best and has a price to match. AMD's turbo is much more accurate, my 5600X runs at 4.85Ghz all the time with a free PBO, my 11500 gets 4.3Ghz at best for the most part. There's a pretty big gap. Since in Canada for example you save $100 on the motherboard not needing to pay for a Z board, the 5600X is still the best overall CPU. I can build 5600X plus B550 for much less money than 11600k plus Z590.
Meanwhile ...

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-11400f-core-i5-11th-gen/p/N82E16819118264?Item=N82E16819118264
Intel Core i5-11400F $159.99

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-3600/p/N82E16819113569
AMD RYZEN 5 3600 $224.99

AMD Ryzen 5 5600X $299.99
 
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Come on guys, the 5600X is a next gen CPU (that is the most power efficient CPU ever also), the 11400f has zero gaming improvement vs the 10400f. The same people that tell everyone to spend $100 more of the K series are now attacking the 5600X, bizarre. The 5600X is the best and has a price to match. AMD's turbo is much more accurate, my 5600X runs at 4.85Ghz all the time with a free PBO, my 11500 gets 4.3Ghz at best for the most part. There's a pretty big gap. Since in Canada for example you save $100 on the motherboard not needing to pay for a Z board, the 5600X is still the best overall CPU. I can build 5600X plus B550 for much less money than 11600k plus Z590.

While yes the 5600X is the 6 core king it's still overpriced.
 
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