• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Intel Core i9-9900KS to be Available from October

btarunr

Editor & Senior Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 9, 2007
Messages
37,384 (8.56/day)
Location
Hyderabad, India
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 2700X
Motherboard MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC
Cooling AMD Wraith Prism
Memory 2x 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3000
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT
Storage Western Digital Black NVMe 512GB
Display(s) Samsung U28D590 28-inch 4K UHD
Case Corsair Carbide 100R
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D PCIe
Power Supply Antec EarthWatts Pro Gold 750W
Mouse Razer Abyssus
Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder X4
Software Windows 10 Pro
Intel's panic response to the 3rd generation Ryzen processor series, the Core i9-9900KS, will be generally available in October. The company will extensively market it as the best processor money can buy for gaming, and the specs to support that claim are formidable - 8-core/16-thread, with an all-core Turbo Boost frequency of 5.00 GHz. Intel will also actively publicize the growing clamor against real-world boost frequencies of 3rd gen Ryzen processors falling short of what's advertised, as detailed in the slide below. "5 GHz means 5 GHz" could be a prominent catchphrase of the chip's marketing, highlighting the all-core boost clocks. This chip is based on the existing 14 nm++ "Coffee Lake Refresh" silicon, but is likely its topmost bin.

Intel didn't, however, specify the TDP or pricing of the processor. The TDP is bound to be higher than that of the i9-9900K, as it would take a lot more power to sustain 5.00 GHz across all 8 cores. Intel may also try to retake the $499 price-point. The company may time the launch of this chip to closely follow AMD's flagship Ryzen 9 3950X 16-core/32-thread processor launch, which is due later this month. Intel's performance numbers for the i9-9900KS focus squarely on gaming and applications relevant to home users or PC enthusiasts. The i9-9900KS ships in a similar-looking acrylic case as the i9-9900K, with "Special Edition" branding on the front face. The retail package continues to lack a cooling solution.



View at TechPowerUp Main Site
 
Joined
Oct 2, 2015
Messages
2,279 (1.57/day)
Location
Argentina
System Name Ciel / Yukino
Processor AMD Ryzen R3 1200 @ 3900MHz / Intel Core i3 5005U
Motherboard MSI B350M PRO-VDH / HP 240 G5
Cooling Wraith Stealth / Stock
Memory 2x 8GB Corsair Ballistix Sport DDR4 2400MHz @ 3400MHz / 2x 4GB Hynix + Kingston DDR3L 1600MHz
Video Card(s) Sapphire R9 270X Toxic 2GB / Intel HD 5500
Storage SSD WD Green 240GB M.2 + HDD Toshiba 2TB / SSD Kingston A400 120GB SATA
Display(s) HP w17e 1440x900 @ 75 Hz / Integrated 1366x768 @ 94Hz
Case Generic / Stock
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC892 / Realtek ALC282
Power Supply Sentey XPP 525W / Power Brick
Mouse Logitech G203 / Elan Touchpad
Keyboard Generic / Stock
Software Windows 10 LTSC x64 + Arch Linux
Benchmark Scores Time Spy: 2200
14nm ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
At this point it's better to use #, saves space.
The most boring release from Intel in 4 years of boring Skylake releases. Look, a 9900K that you don't need to overclock, and that we will charge a stupid price for.
 
Joined
Mar 23, 2016
Messages
2,729 (2.14/day)
Processor Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard MSI B450 Tomahawk ATX
Cooling Scythe Kotetsu with AM4 bracket
Memory PNY Anarchy-X XLR8 Red DDR4 3200 MHz C15-17-17-17-35
Video Card(s) MSI GeForce RTX 2060 GAMING Z 6G
Storage Samsung 970 EVO NVMe M.2 500 GB, SanDisk Ultra II 480 GB
Display(s) Samsung SyncMaster C27H711 OC refresh rate 110Hz
Case Phantek Eclipse P400S (PH-EC416PS)
Audio Device(s) On-board dead - Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy Rx
Power Supply EVGA 850 BQ
Mouse SteelSeries Rival 310
Keyboard Logitech G G413 Silver
Software Windows 10 Professional 64-bit v1903
I'd rather wait for 10nm, and Sunny Cove than a warmed over Skylake.
 
Joined
Jun 18, 2015
Messages
281 (0.18/day)
So they confess that up to this one "5ghz wasn't actually 5ghz" because it was a single core 5ghz? That's why they made it all-core 5ghz?
As for TDP, People who will buy this CPU, and they are a lot, wont really care about the new TDP, so it really won't matter even if it was 1000w.

At this point it's better to use #, saves space.
The most boring release from Intel in 4 years of boring Skylake releases. Look, a 9900K that you don't need to overclock, and that we will charge a stupid price for.
That's totally false. The most boring cpu were i7700 K and the kaby lake as it was the 10th refreshment of the kentsfield q6600 that was released in 2007. Those were the worst 10 years in CPU history. Since then, we've been living a great two years. And every thing released after the i7700k is a lot better that what intel presented in 10 years.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Aug 13, 2010
Messages
4,398 (1.32/day)
Commence 5+ pages more of internet community telling Intel how they feel about them
 

unluckymsk

New Member
Joined
Aug 1, 2019
Messages
5 (0.10/day)
it must have original 9900k price tag , and 9900k price must be reduced 50 USD minimum.

If intel didnt do it - f ..u .. 90% of people will buy 3900x instead
 
Joined
Oct 2, 2015
Messages
2,279 (1.57/day)
Location
Argentina
System Name Ciel / Yukino
Processor AMD Ryzen R3 1200 @ 3900MHz / Intel Core i3 5005U
Motherboard MSI B350M PRO-VDH / HP 240 G5
Cooling Wraith Stealth / Stock
Memory 2x 8GB Corsair Ballistix Sport DDR4 2400MHz @ 3400MHz / 2x 4GB Hynix + Kingston DDR3L 1600MHz
Video Card(s) Sapphire R9 270X Toxic 2GB / Intel HD 5500
Storage SSD WD Green 240GB M.2 + HDD Toshiba 2TB / SSD Kingston A400 120GB SATA
Display(s) HP w17e 1440x900 @ 75 Hz / Integrated 1366x768 @ 94Hz
Case Generic / Stock
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC892 / Realtek ALC282
Power Supply Sentey XPP 525W / Power Brick
Mouse Logitech G203 / Elan Touchpad
Keyboard Generic / Stock
Software Windows 10 LTSC x64 + Arch Linux
Benchmark Scores Time Spy: 2200
That's totally false. The most boring cpu were i7700 K and the kaby lake
Kaby Lake and Coffee Lake are just Skylake with more cores or slightly better turbos. Never wondered why the HEDT line is still called Skylake?
We've been on the 6th series for far too long.
 

piloponth

New Member
Joined
Oct 20, 2017
Messages
29 (0.04/day)
Meanwhile, this is how Intel is panicking in Slovakia:
131072


and in Czech rep. after AMD releasing Zen2.
131073
 

btarunr

Editor & Senior Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 9, 2007
Messages
37,384 (8.56/day)
Location
Hyderabad, India
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 2700X
Motherboard MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC
Cooling AMD Wraith Prism
Memory 2x 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3000
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT
Storage Western Digital Black NVMe 512GB
Display(s) Samsung U28D590 28-inch 4K UHD
Case Corsair Carbide 100R
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D PCIe
Power Supply Antec EarthWatts Pro Gold 750W
Mouse Razer Abyssus
Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder X4
Software Windows 10 Pro
That PCPerspective slide made me chuckle. Ryan Strout leading the Intel Marketing and his old site gets referenced with the words Transparency on top.
Brilliant catch.
 
Joined
Oct 10, 2018
Messages
157 (0.45/day)
So the new "S" suffix means, something 'super' is coming? I would like to see thermals and avg.power consumption before making a comment but ideally this should have been the time to release 10th gen on 10nm.
 
Joined
Jan 11, 2005
Messages
1,214 (0.23/day)
Location
66 feet from the ground
System Name 2nd AMD puppy
Processor FX-8350 vishera
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3
Cooling Cooler Master Hyper TX2
Memory 16 Gb DDR3:8GB Kingston HyperX Beast + 8Gb G.Skill Sniper(by courtesy of tabascosauz &TPU)
Video Card(s) Sapphire RX 580 Nitro+;1450/2000 Mhz
Storage SSD :840 pro 128 Gb;Iridium pro 240Gb ; HDD 2xWD-1Tb
Display(s) Benq XL2730Z 144 Hz freesync
Case NZXT 820 PHANTOM
Audio Device(s) Audigy SE with Logitech Z-5500
Power Supply Cooleer Master RP M520
Mouse Razer copperhead / Gamdias zeus (by courtesy of sneekypeet & TPU)
Keyboard MS Sidewinder x4
Software win10 64bit ltsc
Benchmark Scores irrelevant for me
So the new "S" suffix means, something 'super' is coming? I would like to see thermals and avg.power consumption before making a comment but ideally this should have been the time to release 10th gen on 10nm.
"S" i think it means 'sucker' edition and will be priced accordingly
 

las

Joined
Nov 14, 2012
Messages
730 (0.29/day)
Processor i9-9900K @ 5.2 GHz
Motherboard AsRock Z390 Extreme
Cooling Custom Water
Memory 32GB DDR4 4000/CL15
Video Card(s) 1080 Ti @ 2 GHz
Storage 970 Evo Plus 1TB + 64TB NAS
Display(s) Asus PG279Q 27" 1440p/IPS/165 Hz/Gsync + LG C7V 65" 2160p/OLED/HDR
Case Fractal Define Mini C
Audio Device(s) Asus Essence STX w/ Upgraded Op-Amps
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G2
Mouse Logitech G Pro Wireless
Keyboard Logitech G610 / MX Red + O Rings
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
it must have original 9900k price tag , and 9900k price must be reduced 50 USD minimum.

If intel didnt do it - f ..u .. 90% of people will buy 3900x instead
For gaming and emulation? LMAO... AMD CPU is hit or miss performancewise. Mostly miss if you're a 120-240 Hz gamer.
Even 9700K rapes the 3900X here. For less money.

I would never choose Ryzen for a gaming PC unless it's for 4K/UHD+ / GPU bound gaming maybe. Because for high fps gaming, fps will be lower for sure compared to 8th or 9th gen Intel. Especially when these are running at 5 GHz or more.

I would however choose 3600 over 6C i5's in the budget range tho, if you plan to use it for more than 2 years.
For high-end, nothing beats 8700K, 8086K, 9700K and 9900K/9900KS with OC. As good as it gets for high fps gaming for now and this is a fact.

If you do emulation, like I do, AMD CPU is a no-go unless you want to see terrible perf
I'm blasting 100+ fps in Zelda BOTW at 5K using tons of graphicpacks, newest CEMU, try that on Ryzen, good luck
 
Last edited:
Joined
May 31, 2016
Messages
1,097 (0.91/day)
System Name Bro2
Processor Ryzen 2700X
Motherboard MSI X470 Gaming Carbon
Cooling Wraith Prism
Memory G.Skill Flare X 3200 CL14
Video Card(s) RX Vega 64 Red Devil
Storage M.2 Samsung Evo 970 250MB/ Samsung 860 Evo 1TB
Display(s) LG 27UD69 UHD
Case Fractal Design G
Audio Device(s) realtec 5.1
Power Supply Corsair AXi 760W
Mouse Logitech G402
Keyboard Logitech slim
Software Windows 10 64 bit
So the new "S" suffix means, something 'super' is coming? I would like to see thermals and avg.power consumption before making a comment but ideally this should have been the time to release 10th gen on 10nm.
Oh You don't want to see the thermals and power consumption trust me. If you want to buy it just buy it and forget power and thermals.
Anyway. These advertisements of Intel's marketing crew reminds me of the Monthy Python series. :) It is amusing at a start but after a while watching, it becomes just annoying.
 
Joined
Feb 17, 2012
Messages
2 (0.00/day)
Location
Vaasa Finland
For gaming and emulation? LMAO... AMD CPU is hit or miss performancewise. Mostly miss if you're a 120-240 Hz gamer.
Even 9700K rapes the 3900X here. For less money.

I would never choose Ryzen for a gaming PC unless it's for 4K/UHD+ / GPU bound gaming maybe. Because for high fps gaming, fps will be lower for sure compared to 8th or 9th gen Intel. Especially when these are running at 5 GHz or more.

I would however choose 3600 over 6C i5's in the budget range tho, if you plan to use it for more than 2 years.
For high-end, nothing beats 8700K, 8086K, 9700K and 9900K/9900KS with OC. As good as it gets for high fps gaming for now and this is a fact.

If you do emulation, like I do, AMD CPU is a no-go unless you want to see terrible perf
I'm blasting 100+ fps in Zelda BOTW at 5K using tons of graphicpacks, newest CEMU, try that on Ryzen, good luck
Have you read this https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-3600/4.html ? You only loose around 5% using ryzen 3000 prosessors while using fastest gpu today. If you downgrade to something like 1080 gtx or lower you won't see hardly any difference in fps. And if you are using 2080ti that 10-30 fps increase is pretty useless. You're still getting over 140fps almost in every game.

I have intell 9700k and my brother has ryzen 3700 and both have 1080ti. I have better fps in every game but you cant tell difference in game if fps display is not on.
 
Joined
May 31, 2016
Messages
1,097 (0.91/day)
System Name Bro2
Processor Ryzen 2700X
Motherboard MSI X470 Gaming Carbon
Cooling Wraith Prism
Memory G.Skill Flare X 3200 CL14
Video Card(s) RX Vega 64 Red Devil
Storage M.2 Samsung Evo 970 250MB/ Samsung 860 Evo 1TB
Display(s) LG 27UD69 UHD
Case Fractal Design G
Audio Device(s) realtec 5.1
Power Supply Corsair AXi 760W
Mouse Logitech G402
Keyboard Logitech slim
Software Windows 10 64 bit
Even 9700K rapes the 3900X here
If you call 3-5% more a rape? Funny :)
I would never choose Ryzen for a gaming PC unless it's for 4K / GPU bound gaming maybe. Because for high fps gaming, fps will be lower for sure compared to 8th or 9th gen Intel. Especially when these are running at 5 GHz or more.
Depends which game and I'd rather go min fps than max.
If you do emulation, like I do, AMD CPU is a no-go unless you want to see terrible perf
I'm blasting 100+ fps in Zelda BOTW at 5K using tons of graphicpacks, newest CEMU, try that on Ryzen, good luck
The Emulator is not optimized for Ryzen which is a new processor. Just give it some time :)
 
Joined
Dec 16, 2012
Messages
3,250 (1.32/day)
Location
Jyväskylä, Finland
System Name AMD inside
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 2600 @ 4GHz
Motherboard MSI X470 Gaming Plus
Memory 16GB G.Skill DDR4-2400
Video Card(s) Radeon R9 290 Crossfire @ 1000/1325MHz
Storage 3x SSD, 3x HDD
Display(s) 2x 1920x1080 (23" & 22")
Case Corsair Carbide Air 740
Audio Device(s) Sound Blaster Z
Power Supply Seasonic Focus+ Gold 750W
Mouse Logitech G400s
Keyboard Dell keyboard
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores 19545 in Fire Strike with 290 Crossfire OC
The most boring cpu were i7700 K and the kaby lake as it was the 10th refreshment of the kentsfield q6600 that was released in 2007. Those were the worst 10 years in CPU history. Since then, we've been living a great two years. And every thing released after the i7700k is a lot better that what intel presented in 10 years.
I don't agree with that, at least 7700K OC'd to 5GHz easily, which was rare with 6700K.

So the new "S" suffix means, something 'super' is coming? I would like to see thermals and avg.power consumption before making a comment but ideally this should have been the time to release 10th gen on 10nm.
Few years ago S was the low-power version, for example this 4770S: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/75124/intel-core-i7-4770s-processor-8m-cache-up-to-3-90-ghz.html :D
 
Joined
May 31, 2016
Messages
1,097 (0.91/day)
System Name Bro2
Processor Ryzen 2700X
Motherboard MSI X470 Gaming Carbon
Cooling Wraith Prism
Memory G.Skill Flare X 3200 CL14
Video Card(s) RX Vega 64 Red Devil
Storage M.2 Samsung Evo 970 250MB/ Samsung 860 Evo 1TB
Display(s) LG 27UD69 UHD
Case Fractal Design G
Audio Device(s) realtec 5.1
Power Supply Corsair AXi 760W
Mouse Logitech G402
Keyboard Logitech slim
Software Windows 10 64 bit
Sure it was but I don't think it is the same with the 9900KS. Basically "K" and "S" never go together so the "S" here means something else. Maybe instead of separating these two it's a new moniker "KS". "K" is pretty obvious meaning unlocked multiplier but I wouldn't be so sure about the "S" being low-power cause these 2 cancel each other out.
 
Joined
Dec 16, 2012
Messages
3,250 (1.32/day)
Location
Jyväskylä, Finland
System Name AMD inside
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 2600 @ 4GHz
Motherboard MSI X470 Gaming Plus
Memory 16GB G.Skill DDR4-2400
Video Card(s) Radeon R9 290 Crossfire @ 1000/1325MHz
Storage 3x SSD, 3x HDD
Display(s) 2x 1920x1080 (23" & 22")
Case Corsair Carbide Air 740
Audio Device(s) Sound Blaster Z
Power Supply Seasonic Focus+ Gold 750W
Mouse Logitech G400s
Keyboard Dell keyboard
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores 19545 in Fire Strike with 290 Crossfire OC
Sure it was but I don't think it is the same with the 9900KS. Basically "K" and "S" never go together so the "S" here means something else. Maybe instead of separating these two it's a new moniker "KS". "K" is pretty obvious meaning unlocked multiplier but I wouldn't be so sure about the "S" being low-power cause these 2 cancel each other out.
The joke here was that S used to be the low-power version, now it's the factory-overclocked version. :D
 
Joined
Nov 18, 2010
Messages
4,653 (1.44/day)
Location
Rīga, Latvia
System Name HELLSTAR
Processor Intel 5960X @ 4.4GHz
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X99-UD3
Cooling Custom Loop. 360+240 rads.
Memory 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 2966MHz 16-17-17-35
Video Card(s) ASUS 1080 Ti FE + water block
Storage Optane 900P + Samsung PM981 NVMe 1TB + 750 EVO 500GB
Display(s) Philips PHL BDM3270
Case Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Tempered Glass
Audio Device(s) Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Fractal Design Newton R3 1000W
Mouse Razer Basilisk
Keyboard Razer Deathstalker
Software Windows 10 insider
It is not the first time for the S moniker to appear...

First was the Pentium III-S 1.4GHz...

It is no use to dig it really... it is just a name.
 
Joined
Dec 16, 2012
Messages
3,250 (1.32/day)
Location
Jyväskylä, Finland
System Name AMD inside
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 2600 @ 4GHz
Motherboard MSI X470 Gaming Plus
Memory 16GB G.Skill DDR4-2400
Video Card(s) Radeon R9 290 Crossfire @ 1000/1325MHz
Storage 3x SSD, 3x HDD
Display(s) 2x 1920x1080 (23" & 22")
Case Corsair Carbide Air 740
Audio Device(s) Sound Blaster Z
Power Supply Seasonic Focus+ Gold 750W
Mouse Logitech G400s
Keyboard Dell keyboard
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores 19545 in Fire Strike with 290 Crossfire OC
It is not the first time for the S moniker to appear...

First was the Pentium III-S 1.4GHz...

It is no use to dig it really... it is just a name.
Wasn't that the version with 512k L2?
 
Joined
Oct 31, 2013
Messages
112 (0.05/day)
I am a little worried about the 9900KS CPU. If they still use the same soldering process with the very high or thick CPU-Die, then it will run very hot.
And in my usecase the 9900K already runs at 240W at stock (4.7 GHZ all core). And these 240W is about the max the CPU-die can transfer the heat out to the IHS. And it runs at 100°C+ at that wattage no matter the cooling you use.

Since it is probably just a highly binned 9900K i think it will use the same die an solder as the 9900K. And depending what the mainboard automatically ignores of the intel specs, the cpu just might blow up in my usecase.

Intel has still a way to go to keep the mainboard manufacturers in check to honor their specs about the short term and long term boost times and wattages.

I would tiltle the cpu: 5GHz means 5GHz until it thermal throttles or blows up.

But since it is only designed for games, office stuff and internet browsing, it should be ok.

And if AMD is able to fix the boost issue quite soon, then the 5GHz statement has no reference any longer an d just makes it rediculus.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jan 2, 2018
Messages
119 (0.19/day)
I am a little worried about the 9900KS CPU. If they still use the same soldering process with the very high or thick CPU-Die, then it will run very hot.
And in my usecase the 9900K already runs at 240W at stock (4.7 GHZ all core). And these 240W is about the max the CPU-die can transfer the heat out to the IHS. And it runs at 100°C+ at that wattage no matter the cooling you use.

Since it is probably just a highly binned 9900K i think it will use the same die an solder as the 9900K. And depending what the mainboard automatically ignores of the intel specs, the cpu just might blow up in my usecase.

Intel has still a way to go to keep the mainboard manufacturers in check to honor their specs about the short term and long term boost times and wattages.

I would tiltle the cpu: 5GHz means 5GHz until it thermal throttles or blows up.

But since it is only designed for games, office stuff and internet browsing, it should be ok.

And if AMD is able to fix the boost issue quite soon, then the 5GHz statement has no reference any longer an d just makes it rediculus.
What workload are you doing?
My 9900k couldnt get past 200W of total SYSTEM power with prime95.

Nothing can get this cpu to 100C unless it's prime95 small fft, or i try to OC it to 4.9GHz all core.
 
Top