the E cores make up for the lack of HT. It's the intensive workload on the P cores which seems to be an issue.
But wasn't the point of HT to get the best out of the core resources in terms of thread workload/scheduling....
E cores can't make up for bad pipeline prediction misses, or cores waiting whilst another part of the instruction pipeline is busy on the P core.
As I mentioned in the ultra 9 thread, we'd need to see a clock frequency locked single Vs multi thread using only P cores test to see how good the ST:MT ratio is Vs equivalent number of P core Raptor Lake with and without HT enabled, to see if Intel achieved their aims.
Of course HT was a double edged sword - people seem to forget that even now there are some things that might still work a bit better without it enabled.
Also, is nobody commenting on the fact that essentially the baseline iGPU performance on Intel CPUs is now on parity with the AMD 8500G iGPU?
For most iGPU users, the existing Xe UHD / Ryzen iGPU was more than enough and probably will be, but Intel have pushed the baseline for themselves much further forward. OEMs / SIs will be happy in that sense - they can now claim 'gaming' capability without having to spend the pittance on a GT1030 or equivalent crap.