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Intel "Devil's Canyon" to Usher in 5 GHz-on-air Overclocking Era

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Now they should come up with i7-4790X (6Cores / 12Threads @ 4.5GHz Base & 4.9GHz Boost, Iris Pro v2 IGP, IMC Default Support DDR3 2133/2400, 32PCI-E Lanes, Socket 1150) Haswell Refresh & a price tag of $399 to $449 with all the trimmings of X chips, this will be reason enough to wait for Skylake
 
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That higher end chip would finally warrant the premium the hyperthreading-variants of the K CPU's usually have.

That said, I confess I'm unimpressed by this. If I were going to upgrade now, given how things are going with Intel CPU's and the unimpressive overall performance improvements they are making and have made over the last three years (SB-IVB-HW-HWrefresh-promise of unimpressive Broadwell gains), I have to say...

I'm thinking in the long run Haswell-E is the better value. You get octa-core, more PCIe lanes, the promise of 2+ SLI/CF, and any advance you particularly like about Haswell (if there are any) except the integrated GPU.

Since I don't use the integrated GPU (because I use SLI and use a dual-DVI 2560x1600 monitor which are unsupported by the DVI built onto motherboards even today), I don't see how spending more on a Haswell-E to have awesome performance for five or more years doesn't make more sense than spending less per year, but MORE over the course of several years for less performance.

Plus a chip with 16 threads (8 cores, 8 hyperthreaded) and a LOT of RAM with superior memory support is incredibly tempting.
What?

Also Haswell-E isnt even out yet so how can it be better value. Which it wont.
 
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I'm just too jaded by two successive generations of crap thermal paste.
That's what I got from this... Intel, oh we need to show we are “cratering to the Enthusiast” or we won’t see any showing from Enthusiasts toward buying new Z79 mobo's.

This kind of feeds each other; someone isn’t buying the newest mobo if they’re not seeing any big motivator to consider a new CPU, which has been the case. While if this CPU is calling you to upgrade some old 2500K, your more apt to see the motivation for the thinking of pairing it with a new Z79, rather then hold on to the Z68.
It seems they need to prod the cattle to moooove…
 
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Does Intel really expect the i7 4790K to really reach 5ghz on air out of the box or is the consumer playing the lotto again? Sounds like willy wonka shipping golden IHS.
 
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Does Intel really expect the i7 4790K to really reach 5ghz on air out of the box or is the consumer playing the lotto again? Sounds like willy wonka shipping golden IHS.
Expreview believes that the two could usher in a new era in CPU overclocking without breaking the bank over HEDT chips, and could be capable of running at clock speeds of 5.00 GHz, on air-cooling.
No Expreview believes.... or promoting the hype for Intel!
 

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Does Intel really expect the i7 4790K to really reach 5ghz on air out of the box or is the consumer playing the lotto again? Sounds like willy wonka shipping golden IHS.
More than likely it will be pretty possible. The better TIM, better contact points, and selectively binned chips certainly make it possible.
 
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Sandy Bridge is back?
I still think some one at intel sneaked sandy out under the radar. . At the time, and still today, That chip was a little monster...a $300 chip with $1000 performance. Totally closed the gap between mainstream and hedt. Haven't seen anything like it since.
 
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More than likely it will be pretty possible. The better TIM, better contact points, and selectively binned chips certainly make it possible.
True, it's all possible but after reading how ivy bridge totally sucked at overclocking [compared to sandy bridge] I don't expect much from them. I guess we'll all know mid-June if it's a worthy upgrade.
 

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True, it's all possible but after reading how ivy bridge totally sucked at overclocking [compared to sandy bridge] I don't expect much from them. I guess we'll all know mid-June if it's a worthy upgrade.
True, only the actual release will tell for sure. But keep in mind, Ivy and Haswell left behind the soldered TIM of Sandy, and the Devil's Canyon is returning to it, so the improved heat dissipation will already be there. I'm not planning on buying one, but I do believe that the stated claims will probably be about 80% true.
 
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To be honest, ill start to believe this when I see the average consumer/enthusiast buying these chips and getting 5ghz on these chips. The new TIM is going to be the key here because that has been needed now for 2 generations. Hence why I have been anxiously waiting for the next generation E series chips because it seemed for the longest time those were the only chips really designed for the true enthusiast from Intel at least.

Heres hoping the 8 core chip starts with a K variant on Haswell-E instead of only being on the 1k X variant.
 
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My 2600K can do this now? I don't run it at that because I do not have AC in my office. Great PR however for Intel. I think they are going for a natural "Turbo" 5Ghz. Not an OC.
 
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Why is everyone hating on the new thermal paste?

I think iIntel has done so to encourage the adoption of their awkward z97 chipset and to satisfy their hardware partners. In any event, it's a step in the right direction, even if it's long overdue and possibly temporary.

For those with steady hands, it's not too difficult to pull off the heatspreader and replacement the paste with something more serious.
 

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Why is everyone hating on the new thermal paste?
Nobody is actually "hating" on the Ivy and Haswell thermal paste. We're just poining out that the soldering method formerly used on Sandy Bridge is much more efficient to heat transfer, and because it is, that's why Intel is bringing it back for Devil's Canyon.
 
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I still think some one at intel sneaked sandy out under the radar. . At the time, and still today, That chip was a little monster...a $300 chip with $1000 performance. Totally closed the gap between mainstream and hedt. Haven't seen anything like it since.
It was a double edged sword for them. They definitely caught peoples attention and convinced a lot of people to upgrade, but also set an expectation that new CPU's would yield massive performance gains every time. Sandy Bridge was definitely an anomoly--in the best of ways--but Ivy and Haswell have been acceptable in their own ways.
 
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I can never get 5ghz on SB, only 4.6 before it began doing crazy things. Granted that's still higher than what I got on Ivy
 
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Better TIM... I will still delid
 
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A manufacturer has introduced delid kits that allow straight die to heat spreader for the Haswell generations.

Also doesn't ivy have one of the best imc and single threaded performance.

I'm glad they are bringing out a whole new overclocking chip based on Haswell cores.
 
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I'm more interested in the price... Will they "replace" the 4670K and 4770K, or merely be priced higher? And if so, how much higher? Also, what I hope this means is that Broadwell will have a superior thermal solution compared to Ivy/Haswell from the get-go.
 
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I'm more interested in the price... Will they "replace" the 4670K and 4770K, or merely be priced higher? And if so, how much higher? Also, what I hope this means is that Broadwell will have a superior thermal solution compared to Ivy/Haswell from the get-go.
The rest of the refresh products replace the older models, so these should as well, and they should do it at existing price points. While Intel might try to temp fate and call binning and improved TIM features that necessitate a price increase, I think enough people will call bs on that.
 
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I would say there's got to be a cost increase, I can't remember any company ever taking something away that was default and then not charging more for it being put back in (soldered ihs)
 
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Except they have my spelling skills , canvon??