• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Intel Gives Memory Overclocking Ability to H570 and B560 Chipsets

AleksandarK

News Editor
Staff member
Joined
Aug 19, 2017
Messages
2,190 (0.91/day)
With the launch of its 500 series chipsets, Intel has officially laid the groundwork for the launch of its Rocket Lake-S CPU lineup. And with the new platform, there are some new features to be expected. The surprising news today is that Intel has enabled memory overclocking on a non-Z chipset like the upcoming H570 and B560 chipsets designed for mid-range motherboards that provide a budget option compared to the Z series that is designed for overclocking. The H570 and B560 chipsets now only lack the support for CPU overclocking, however, with Intel's history of limiting any overclocking exclusively to Z chipsets, this represents good progress nonetheless. However, for any frequencies above 2666 MHz, you need to use a Core i5 processor and above. The Core i3 and Celeron models are not going to support any higher speeds than 2666 MHz.


View at TechPowerUp Main Site
 

TheLostSwede

News Editor
Joined
Nov 11, 2004
Messages
16,000 (2.26/day)
Location
Sweden
System Name Overlord Mk MLI
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets
Memory 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68
Video Card(s) Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS
Storage 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000
Display(s) Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz
Case Fractal Design Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s) Corsair Virtuoso SE
Power Supply be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W
Mouse Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard Corsair K70 Max
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/5za05v
This is such a heart-warming story, so kind of Intel to grant its users such an amazing feature.
Oh right, they took it away a few years ago, because...
 
Joined
Apr 12, 2013
Messages
6,728 (1.68/day)
I'm glad they're finally unlocking it. Intel has enjoyed milking their pay-to-play ecosystem for far too long now.
Nah, the chipsets still don't support OCing K chips ~ no reason why it should still be a privilege but I guess old habits die hard :shadedshu:
 
Joined
May 12, 2016
Messages
259 (0.09/day)
Processor Intel Core i7 11700
Motherboard Asus b560-i ROG
Cooling Thermalright Assassin King Mini
Memory G.Skill Trident Z 3600
Video Card(s) RTX 3080 FE
Display(s) Dell S2721DGF
Case Ncase M1
Power Supply Corsair SF750
Mouse HyperX
Keyboard HyperX
Nah, the chipsets still don't support OCing K chips ~ no reason why it should still be a privilege but I guess old habits die hard :shadedshu:
OC is almost useless these days. AMD has OC, but it's barely faster than stock while consumes more. Same with intel.
 
Joined
Apr 9, 2018
Messages
781 (0.36/day)
Nah, the chipsets still don't support OCing K chips ~ no reason why it should still be a privilege but I guess old habits die hard :shadedshu:

Yeah I don't expect them to unlock CPU overclocking anytime soon. I'm not a marketing exec but it would sure generate a lot of hype if they did, even though overclocking returns are diminishing.

They had the right idea with the Core i3-7350K (i.e. having at least ONE unlocked processor sku) but it was damn near the price of a Core i5-7400. Poorly executed.
 
Joined
Apr 12, 2013
Messages
6,728 (1.68/day)
OC is almost useless these days. AMD has OC, but it's barely faster than stock while consumes more. Same with intel.

Intel still has a lot more room with OC, definitely more than AMD. The other issue is the artificial market segmentation with their unlocked K chips & now non IGP (F) desktop parts. Of course you could argue whether OCing is actually worth it in your use case but the huge clock speed differential, as compared to non K parts, & the need to have a Z board make it a less appealing option in many cases. If I'm looking just to OC a chip Intel would still be the preferred brand, albeit a more expensive proposition.

They had the right idea with the Core i3-7350K (i.e. having at least ONE unlocked processor sku) but it was damn near the price of a Core i5-7400. Poorly executed.
Yeah would've been great if they put their monies where their mouth is.
 
Joined
Sep 1, 2020
Messages
2,015 (1.55/day)
Location
Bulgaria
Most of Rocket Lake Core series will support DDR4 3200 as native at box. Most of Comet lake Core series support DDR4 2933. Why should trouble for OC RAM with series chipset for MB's for office use? For Pentium/Celeron for web browsing, movies, MS Word, Excell, PPoint, Tetris?
 
Joined
Jan 28, 2012
Messages
467 (0.11/day)
Location
Lithuania
Processor Intel Core i5 4670K @ 4.8 GHz
Motherboard AsRock Z87 Extreme 4
Cooling Lepa NeoIllusion RGB CPU cooler
Memory 2*4GB Patriot G2 Series RAM
Video Card(s) MSI Radeon R9 380 4GB
Storage Transcend SSD 740 256GB + WD Caviar Blue 1TB
Display(s) Samsung SA 300 24" Full HD
Case NZXT Phantom 530 + Bitfenix Recon fan controller
Audio Device(s) Creative SB0770 X-Fi Xtreme Gamer
Power Supply PC Power and Cooling Silencer MkIII 750W 80+ Gold
Mouse Logitech G502
Keyboard Steelseries Apex RAW
Benchmark Scores IT WORKS
Nah, the chipsets still don't support OCing K chips ~ no reason why it should still be a privilege but I guess old habits die hard :shadedshu:
If cheap chipsets would have overclocking ability there be no point to buy expensive ones
 
Joined
Sep 1, 2020
Messages
2,015 (1.55/day)
Location
Bulgaria
If cheap chipsets would have overclocking ability there be no point to buy expensive ones
Overclocking of CPU is death from few years. Increase of frequency with 10-15%(when is possible) 10-15% more performance in tasks. What is positive to got 3-4% at "OC" of CPU and 1-2% at OC RAM when for that you spent +30% more money? Yes more OC is possible for the purpose of competition with $XXXX...X more money for expensive MB's, cascade phase-change cooling, or liquid gases(helium, nitrogen)?
 
Joined
Jul 18, 2016
Messages
353 (0.13/day)
Location
Indonesia
System Name Nero Mini
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 4.7GHz-4.9GHz
Motherboard Gigabyte X570i Aorus Pro Wifi
Cooling Noctua NH-D15S+3x Noctua IPPC 3K
Memory Team Dark 3800MHz CL16 2x16GB 55ns
Video Card(s) Palit RTX 2060 Super JS Shunt Mod 2130MHz/1925MHz + 2x Noctua 120mm IPPC 3K
Storage Adata XPG Gammix S50 1TB
Display(s) LG 27UD68W
Case Lian-Li TU-150
Power Supply Corsair SF750 Platinum
Software Windows 10 Pro
Wow they are so out of touch that they still felt it was needed to lock this pathetic feature to just i5 and above. Are the ones making these decisions living under a rock?
 
Joined
Sep 14, 2020
Messages
498 (0.39/day)
Location
Greece
System Name Office / HP Prodesk 490 G3 MT (ex-office)
Processor Intel 13700 (90° limit) / Intel i7-6700
Motherboard Asus TUF Gaming H770 Pro / HP 805F H170
Cooling Noctua NH-U14S / Stock
Memory G. Skill Trident XMP 2x16gb DDR5 6400MHz cl32 / Samsung 2x8gb 2133MHz DDR4
Video Card(s) Asus RTX 3060 Ti Dual OC GDDR6X / Zotac GTX 1650 GDDR6 OC
Storage Samsung 2tb 980 PRO MZ / Samsung SSD 1TB 860 EVO + WD blue HDD 1TB (WD10EZEX)
Display(s) Eizo FlexScan EV2455 - 1920x1200 / Panasonic TX-32LS490E 32'' LED 1920x1080
Case Nanoxia Deep Silence 8 Pro / HP microtower
Audio Device(s) On board
Power Supply Seasonic Prime PX750 / OEM 300W bronze
Mouse MS cheap wired / Logitech cheap wired m90
Keyboard MS cheap wired / HP cheap wired
Software W11 / W7 Pro ->10 Pro
OC is almost useless these days. AMD has OC, but it's barely faster than stock while consumes more. Same with intel.
You are right, although Intel's OC still provides a small but noteworthy gain. Consumption and heat on the other side...
 

TheLostSwede

News Editor
Joined
Nov 11, 2004
Messages
16,000 (2.26/day)
Location
Sweden
System Name Overlord Mk MLI
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets
Memory 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68
Video Card(s) Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS
Storage 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000
Display(s) Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz
Case Fractal Design Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s) Corsair Virtuoso SE
Power Supply be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W
Mouse Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard Corsair K70 Max
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/5za05v
Most of Rocket Lake Core series will support DDR4 3200 as native at box. Most of Comet lake Core series support DDR4 2933. Why should trouble for OC RAM with series chipset for MB's for office use? For Pentium/Celeron for web browsing, movies, MS Word, Excell, PPoint, Tetris?
Did you even look at the pictures? :rolleyes:
The i3's and below don't support faster RAM, so your comment is quite moot.
 

SuMMoN

New Member
Joined
Jan 15, 2021
Messages
4 (0.00/day)
I think you misinterpret this.

"*11th Gen Intel® Core™ (i9/i7/i5) support DDR4 up to 3200; Core™ (i3), Pentium and Celeron® support DDR4 up to 2666."

It mean 3200 is guaruntee for i5/i7/i9, 2666 is guaruntee for i3 and below. Above is overclock and not guaruntee.

ASUS Z490 Maximus XII Extreme state similar, yet you can overclock ram to 3200 with i3-10100


 
Last edited:
Joined
Sep 1, 2020
Messages
2,015 (1.55/day)
Location
Bulgaria
2666 is guaruntee for i3 and below. Above is overclock and not guaruntee.
DDR4 has standard operating to 3200MT/s this mean models between 2666 and 3201MT/s are not "overclocked". Intel make artificial limitations to milk fanboys for more money for expensive parts.
 
Joined
May 12, 2016
Messages
259 (0.09/day)
Processor Intel Core i7 11700
Motherboard Asus b560-i ROG
Cooling Thermalright Assassin King Mini
Memory G.Skill Trident Z 3600
Video Card(s) RTX 3080 FE
Display(s) Dell S2721DGF
Case Ncase M1
Power Supply Corsair SF750
Mouse HyperX
Keyboard HyperX
You are right, although Intel's OC still provides a small but noteworthy gain. Consumption and heat on the other side...
Very small and at lower res. A case where means don’t justify the cause.
 
Joined
Feb 3, 2017
Messages
3,475 (1.33/day)
Processor R5 5600X
Motherboard ASUS ROG STRIX B550-I GAMING
Cooling Alpenföhn Black Ridge
Memory 2*16GB DDR4-2666 VLP @3800
Video Card(s) EVGA Geforce RTX 3080 XC3
Storage 1TB Samsung 970 Pro, 2TB Intel 660p
Display(s) ASUS PG279Q, Eizo EV2736W
Case Dan Cases A4-SFX
Power Supply Corsair SF600
Mouse Corsair Ironclaw Wireless RGB
Keyboard Corsair K60
VR HMD HTC Vive
However, for any frequencies above 2666 MHz, you need to use a Core i5 processor and above. The Core i3 and Celeron models are not going to support any higher speeds than 2666 MHz.
This part is most likely wrong. 3200 and 2666 are the official supported RAM speeds for processors, memory overclock will go beyond that.
 
Joined
Feb 26, 2016
Messages
546 (0.18/day)
Location
Texas
System Name O-Clock
Processor Intel Core i9-9900K @ 52x/49x 8c8t
Motherboard ASUS Maximus XI Gene
Cooling Corsair H170i Elite Cappelix w/ NF-A14 iPPC IP67 fans
Memory 2x16GB G.Skill TridentZ @3900 MHz CL16
Video Card(s) EVGA RTX 2080 Ti XC Black
Storage Samsung 983 ZET 960GB, 2x WD SN850X 4TB
Display(s) Asus VG259QM
Case Corsair 900D
Audio Device(s) beyerdynamic DT 990 600Ω, Asus SupremeFX Hi-Fi 5.25", Elgato Wave 1
Power Supply EVGA 1600 T2 w/ NF-A14 iPPC IP67 fan
Mouse Logitech G403 Wireless (PMW3366)
Keyboard Logitech G910 Stickerbombed
Software Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
Benchmark Scores https://hwbot.org/search/submissions/permalink?userId=92615&cpuId=5773
If H570 and B560 support memory overclocking, then the max supported memory speed by the CPU doesn't really matter (only matters in determining potential IMC quality). The bottom half of the 3rd screenshot shows the maximum speed natively supported by the CPU. Even in the top half of the screenshot you can clearly see whatever motherboard that is, can support 5000 MHz on 11th gen processors, with "OC" in parenthesis, denoting it is an overclock. So basically, in overclocking terms, H570 and B560 are the same as Z590 in that, you can go past the CPU's maximum IMC supported speed, but unlike Z590 you cannot increase the multiplier above the CPU's spec. What will be interesting is how BCLK overclocking comes into play, if it will be allowed on B560 and H570 as well.
 
Joined
Sep 3, 2017
Messages
239 (0.10/day)
Location
Russia
Processor FX 8320 @4.2 | i7 2600 @3.8 | Xeon W3670 @ 3.6
Motherboard Asus Sabertooth R2.0 | Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe | Gigabyte X58-UD7
Cooling Zalman Performa 10+ | Zalman Performa 11+ | Zalman Performa 10+
Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 32GB @ 1866 | Corsair Vengeance 32GB @1866 | Samsung 24GB @ 1600
Video Card(s) XFX Radeon 390x | Zotac GTX 1070 AMP Extreme | Zotac GTX 980 AMP Extreme
Storage Intel SSD / SAS 15k Fujitsu | Intel SSD / Velociraptors / Hitachi 2TB | Intel SSD / Samsung 1TB
Display(s) Samsung 245T | HP ZR30w | IBM 20" 4x3
Case Chieftec | Corsair Graphite 600T | Thermaltake Xaser IV
Audio Device(s) SB Titanium HD | SB Titanium HD | SB X-fi Elite Pro
Power Supply Thermaltake 875W | Corsair 850W | Thermaltake 1500W
Mouse Logitech | Logitech | Logitech
Keyboard Mitsumi Classic | Microsoft |Microsoft
Software W7 x64 | W7 x64 |W7 x64 / XP x32
If cheap chipsets would have overclocking ability there be no point to buy expensive ones
No, it open new possibilities for rising prices because of that. AMD did it with B550 without "killer feature" and it lead to a decline of sales.

Yet another aspect where Intel is trailing behind. Next up they need to unlock all their CPUs like AMD.
With current trend to OC out of the box to the max silicon could possibly survive for warranty period (both AMD and Intel) and after reading some materials about how current CPUs could possibly degrade much faster than previous gen (prior to 2015-17) due to constant high temperatures and faster clock speed switching with faster heat up/cool down, i would prefer to downclock or fix it at the levels of multicore turboboost.
 
Top