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Intel Readies 32 nm Cedar View Atom Processors for Late 2011

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Intel will give its category-defining Atom processor its next big update in Q4, 2011. Codenamed "Cedar Trail", Intel's next Atom processor will use the latest manufacturing process technologies, and up the feature-set a bit. The Cedar Trail platform combines the Atom "Cedar View" processor with a chipset similar to Intel NM10 from the current "Pine Trail". The platform is laid out in a similar 2-chip package. The first chip embeds a dual-core x86-64 processor, an integrated memory controller that supports single-channel DDR3 memory, and a new DirectX 10.1 compliant integrated GPU that supports 1080p video playback, it connects to the chipset over DMI.

Cedar View Atom processor will be built on Intel's 32 nm process. The new process chops TDP by 30%, while allowing higher clock speeds. Some of the first Cedar View processors are dual-core. Designed for low-power desktops and nettops, the Atom D2500 runs at 1.86 GHz, has no HyperThreading Technology (HTT), has 1 MB of shared cache, and 10W TDP. In contrast, the 45 nm "Pine View" Atom D525 processor achieves 1.83 GHz at 13W TDP. Intel will have a higher-performing part, the Atom D2700. The D2700 is clocked at 2.13 GHz, features HTT, and the TDP remains at 10W.



Source: Anandtech
 

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Not sure if these can compete with next-gen bobcat (Krishna or whatever they're called).
 

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they need a quad core Atom with HT already. even if they have to sacrifice clock speed for it I think it would be rocking. they could probably hit 13w with a 4c/8t @ 1.6ghz with a very effective turbo mode.
 

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Tablets are really threatening the Atom market though, I wonder how Intel is going to counter that.
 
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Tablets are really threatening the Atom market though, I wonder how Intel is going to counter that.
ummm sell the atom to the tablet manufaturers. lol seriously.
 

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10w TDP too high. you need 1-5w I think
for a phone, not a tablet. I see no reason why a tablet can't run an atom. Coolign wise there's no difference from a netbook to a tablet, power wise again tablets have bigger and better batteries than their phone counterparts, heat again no diff compared to the netbook.

why they're insisiting on putting wimpy phone cpu's in tablets is beyond me.
 

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for a phone, not a tablet. I see no reason why a tablet can't run an atom. Coolign wise there's no difference from a netbook to a tablet, power wise again tablets have bigger and better batteries than their phone counterparts, heat again no diff compared to the netbook.

why they're insisiting on putting wimpy phone cpu's in tablets is beyond me.
Well, my classification of "too high" is when you need a fan and vents for cooling. I don't like vents on tablets, it means that you cannot put them anywhere you want, but must be careful about blocking the vents, and also dust will get in and clog up the system too. I doubt that you will be able to get a fan and ventless tablet with that high of a tdp.

Tablets nowadays firmly belong to the "just enough" category, just like Atom in netbooks. No need to increase the complexity of the device when you can just stick the innards of a powerful phone into a large screen.
 

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Well, my classification of "too high" is when you need a fan and vents for cooling. I don't like vents on tablets, it means that you cannot put them anywhere you want, but must be careful about blocking the vents, and also dust will get in and clog up the system too. I doubt that you will be able to get a fan and ventless tablet with that high of a tdp.

Tablets nowadays firmly belong to the "just enough" category, just like Atom in netbooks. No need to increase the complexity of the device when you can just stick the innards of a powerful phone into a large screen.

Make the entire back of the tablet a passive heatsink?
 
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I am disappointed in the Atom refresh. While better than nothing, Atom has fallen off the Moore's Law Curve. We should really be seeing better performance and lower power TDP's now that Atom is more than 3 years old!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Atom
 
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I am disappointed in the Atom refresh. While better than nothing, Atom has fallen off the Moore's Law Curve. We should really be seeing better performance and lower power TDP's now that Atom is more than 3 years old!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Atom
moores law doesn't apply to the low power market lol.


that's like saying "I'm really disappointed with the toyota prius's horsepower"
 

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moores law doesn't apply to the low power market lol.


that's like saying "I'm really disappointed with the toyota prius's horsepower"
Awww stop bursting bubbles, the prius should have the acceleration, horse power and top speed of F1 cars :p
 
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10w TDP too high. you need 1-5w I think
These are atom D series parts... they are aimed at low power POS machines and other desktop/nettop form factor builds.

The N series is built for netbooks and tablets, they will certainly have a lower TDP. I am surprised that there is no launch news with those - especially given the extremely low power consumption of the sandy bridge i3s - but these comments about intel not being up to snuff for ultraportable machines are because we have no information regarding the next generation of those chips. The successor to the D525 (described here) and the successor N550 (no info) are quite different products if they keep the same naming and general product grouping schemes.
 

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Does this cost the same?
 
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I sense a new garage PC in my future.
 
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AMD clearly taken the league in APU. Atom is not going anywhere.
I think low end spec PC is getting too low compare to how high we get with high end counter parts today.
Atom has to get cheaper otherwise !
 
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In related news Intel lets everyone know that they are still Atom processors, don't expect miracles.

Not sure if these can compete with next-gen bobcat (Krishna or whatever they're called).
It won't.

Does this cost the same?
Does it matter? It's still Atom.

Krishna is coming Q4 '11 on 28nm (aka Bobcat shrink) and will give you E-350 clocks at less power then C-50. AMD can already make C-60 which has turbo to give it E-350 clocks without using more power. C-60 should be able to beat Atom D processors since the E-350 can already do that and this is still on 40nm. Quad core Krishna should able to easily hit E-350 clocks with less power.

AMD shot Atom when they launched Bobcat. Intel is just giving CPR to a soon to be corpse. Until they give Atom OoO, there is no hope (even then the GPU will still suck and the drivers keep kicking the entire thing in the nuts).