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Intel Sandy Bridge to Introduce New Sockets, Chipsets, Reorganize Platform Further

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I'm gonna upgrade!

QUAD CHANNELS OMGZ! Even though I don't even need it :laugh:.

This is called innovation.
 
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i just upgraded to 1156 and with this news it woulda prolly made me upset but with TPU b/s/t im feel just fine :D but next upgrade im definitely sticking with amd
 
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I'm going to build a new i5 machine before summer and yet I do not find this piece of news distressing. Strange. Might have something to do with me not interested in the dumb concept of "upgrade path".
 
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I'm going to build a new i5 machine before summer and yet I do not find this piece of news distressing. Strange. Might have something to do with me not interested in the dumb concept of "upgrade path".


I buy what I think will do me the best .. but amd is the way I always go being a poor guy lol but amd seems good enough for me and some day they will be pwning haha :rockout::pimp:
 

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I'm going to build a new i5 machine before summer and yet I do not find this piece of news distressing. Strange. Might have something to do with me not interested in the dumb concept of "upgrade path".

Go ahead and build it. LGA-1155 is two years away.
 
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Well, Intel has screwed me over again, next time I should consider going AMD no matter what. Intel you suck!

It was known for a long time (before they even came out) that S1156 was not going to be a long-term socket design. Moving/fusing the IGP into the CPU is not a trivial task, so it's to be expected that certain parameters such as pin counts can and will change. Anyways, this is technology, if you don't like it, don't upgrade. It's as simple as that. :)
 
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With their marketing strategy, it really seems like late adopters are the ones who get bit the worst. Early adopters get to use their sockets for about 2 years, but it's those who take a while longer after something comes out to buy it that end up feeling obsolete.

I agree that it was bound to happen. Once 32nm CPUs were released, they were only released on 1156, and their integrated GPUs only worked on P57 boards, which there were very few of.
 
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No offence but you are news editor and wrote sandy bridge is 2011 , this makes socket 1156--->1155 18 months nearly (iirc sandy bridge expected at 2011 1st quarter)

I don't get the socket hue and cry. LGA-1366 = Q3-2008, LGA-2011 = Q3-2011 (3 years) ; LGA-1156 = Q3-2009, LGA-1155 = 2012(?) (3 years).

A socket every 3 years is kosher.
 
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:wtf: why is it that Intel seems to come out with more sockets then cpu's these days?

Because Intel charges royalties for the use of their socket designs. By changing them constantly, Intel gets to milk that cash cow three times: the CPU, the CPU socket, and the chipset.

Never mind that they end up pissing off their buyers, especially the enthusiasts.
 

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No offence but you are news editor and wrote sandy bridge is 2011 , this makes socket 1156--->1155 18 months nearly (iirc sandy bridge expected at 2011 1st quarter)

Sandy Bridge architecture is arriving in 2011 -> Yes, with LGA-2011. LGA-1155 in 2011 -> No, never said that.
 
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Well I understand the need for a new socket, because the move to a 256-bit memory bus (I hope we get quad pumped memory too :D ) but the 1156->1155 transition is a little retarded. Couldn't they have played around with the layout a bit and keep the old socket?
 
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If Intel kept the 1156 socket you would still need new chipset, just like 945, 965 to X38, P35 transition. You basically need a new chipset for every architectural change. AMD basically kept the same architecture from K8 days that's why AM2 is compatible with Am3 etc. So, essentially, Intel is just more aggressive on architectural changes.
 
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Why is everyone so fixated on sockets?

Besides from techies how many people actually upgrade the CPU in their computer?? I'd like to table a guess of much less than 1%.

So why would Intel not change their sockets to accommodate their latest in technology?

You should be used to it by now. Otherwise, switch to AMD.
 

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It's a bummer, since I am a late 1366 adopter, but honestly, how many of us enthusiasts that buy top end hardware actually end up keeping the same mobo for years and years? Even if they kept the same socket, and just released a new chipset, we were still likely to buy a new mobo with our 8 core cpu anyway.

I hate to admit it, and it leaves me feeling a little burnt, but the truth is, it doesn't really effect me that much.
 

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unless i'm mistaken, wasn't sandy bridge supposed to be released in 2010?
 

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I think when X68 becomes available I'll still have a lot of power in the previous 1366 platform. Whatever, let them change. Let's see how much more powerful the procs are going to be on these new sockets.
 
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its got a fatter bus so it should move data faster.
 

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its got a fatter bus so it should move data faster.

No just because it's bigger doesn't mean it's faster. Just means you can move more at any one time.
 
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remove one pin"leg" from the CPU to made new sockets, that's sucks
 
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now that im ACTUALLY thinking. 256-bit wide memory controller means that most mainboards will need to have 8 Memory Slots. Then, the actual fact that it has 2011 pins, it means that it will be need to be way bigger than the current LGA 1366 which is already enourmous. So, the questions are: A - ATX format is getting too short on wideness
B - MATX format is too small

maybe they can sort it cause X68 is just one chip, but, its just too much.
 
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I'm going to build a new i5 machine before summer and yet I do not find this piece of news distressing. Strange. Might have something to do with me not interested in the dumb concept of "upgrade path".

Same here, with 1155 coming in about two years I'll probably end up upgrading about a year after that socket is introduced anyway. If the i5 750 vs i7 920 gaming performance is anything to go by for 1155 vs 2011, I have zero interest in X68 and LGA-2011. Three year upgrade paths are just about right for me. :)
 

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Intel=Nvidia 2 companies that force you to upgrade and cant stand any form of competition
 
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