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LOL @ you You express your all-time hate about AMD, so this "Ryzen is dead to me" is so funny to read. :D
If Intel offers me 20% IPC gain on Desktop CPU at same price... yeah Ryzen is dead to me, which is why I edited my post to explain that oh, I did not realize this was not a Desktop SKU claim.

Learn context... also, welcome to my ignore list, you annoy me.
 
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18% IPC gain at same clocks as previous gen???? no freaking way. if true Ryzen is dead to me, but I will believe it when I see it... especially if this overclocks 200-300 mhz more which Ryzen 3000 won't overclock and maintain all core... so now your looking at 22%-25% gains...

edit: this is for laptops only I think... so disregard the above... my bad.
The 18% IPC gain is largely on the back of new AVX 512, SHA instructions. The clock speeds have regressed badly though over 14nm++ but in normal integer, also non AVX (FP) accelerated workloads the gains could be low single digits!
If Intel offers me 20% IPC gain on Desktop CPU at same price
That's not going to happen, we are talking about Intel not Bill & Melinda Gates' charity :ohwell:
 
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If Intel offers me 20% IPC gain on Desktop CPU at same price... yeah Ryzen is dead to me, which is why I edited my post to explain that oh, I did not realize this was not a Desktop SKU claim.

Learn context... also, welcome to my ignore list, you annoy me.
I bet you also believe that Canon lake has 15% more perf than skylake :roll:

Let me know how fast that sludge called an Intel CPU is in 2022!
 
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I bet you also believe that Canon lake has 15% more perf than skylake :roll:

Let me know how fast that sludge called an Intel CPU is in 2022!
I mean, Intel is still getting 10 fps across the board better in games... so... but cost wise since min fps on Ryzen 3600 is much better than i5-9400F, and security wise, I still am leaning towards AMD for a budget build.
 
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I mean, Intel is still getting 10 fps across the board better in games... so... but cost wise since min fps on Ryzen 3600 is much better than i5-9400F, and security wise, I still am leaning towards AMD for a budget build.
What does that have to do with failed 10nm?
 

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18% IPC gain at same clocks as previous gen???? no freaking way. if true Ryzen is dead to me, but I will believe it when I see it... especially if this overclocks 200-300 mhz more which Ryzen 3000 won't overclock and maintain all core... so now your looking at 22%-25% gains...

edit: this is for laptops only I think... so disregard the above... my bad.
In laptop segment, Ryzen has never really lived anyway and if these 10nm parts come before AMD's 7nm ones (as it seems), it also never will
Can you elaborate on why steamstats is flawed? So all that info is wrong and AMD is the one on 90% of the desktops?

9700k selling like hot cakes is not an anomaly. A lot of ppl waited for zen2 reviews to see gaming performance on esports titles (the most played games). And they run to the store buying 9700k. R5 3600 and 9700k best selling CPUs right now here. Is not an anomaly. Is normal and easy to understand why.

R5 3600 best value chip
9700k, the no compromises chip

9700k even got up on Amazon best selling CPUs and is at number 3 now, something ot never achieved before. But you will probably say that Amazon ranks are "flawed" I guess.
All the benchmarks, sales figures and hardware surveys that don't show AMD in the best of lights are flawed according to their ardent fanboys :D
 
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In laptop segment, Ryzen has never really lived anyway and if these 10nm parts come before AMD's 7nm ones (as it seems), it also never will
yep which is why I edited my original post stating my mistake I thought it was desktop...
 
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Do you even understand what 18% better IPC means?
Do you even understand what quad core maximum means ?

As for 18%, I'll believe it when I see it in independent reviews. HYPE HYPE HYPE Intel HYPE.
 
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In laptop segment, Ryzen has never really lived anyway and if these 10nm parts come before AMD's 7nm ones (as it seems), it also never will

All the benchmarks, sales figures and hardware surveys that don't show AMD in the best of lights are flawed according to their ardent fanboys :D
They're not even competitive with 14nm...how is that gonna beat ryzen lol. They literally only exist to save face and not be sued.
 
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They're not even competitive with 14nm...how is that gonna beat ryzen lol. They literally only exist to save face and not be sued.
krhm Intel has 14nm laptop chip with 8 cores 16 threads, highest Ryzen one has 4 cores 8 threads. One of the reason being amd has no APU that has more than 4 cores, while that puny crap intel igpu is on their every consumer platform chip. 7nm laptops parts are yet to come, but I doubt amd will do higher than eight core apu any way. So they have the change to equal core counts, but the speed might still be on intels side even with coffee lake arch.
 
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krhm Intel has 14nm laptop chip with 8 cores 16 threads, highest Ryzen one has 4 cores 8 threads. One of the reason being amd has no APU that has more than 4 cores, while that puny crap intel igpu is on their every consumer platform chip. 7nm laptops parts are yet to come, but I doubt amd will do higher than eight core apu any way. So they have the change to equal core counts, but the speed might still be on intels side even with coffee lake arch.
Again, what does that have to do with failed 10nm and apparently you don't know what power consumption is. For good clocks, Intel eats power and produces a lot of heat. Now, let's look at current desktop, then imagine a low power zen 2.

What good is an 8 core 14nm in a .6" chassis that instantly overheats?
 
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18% IPC gain at same clocks as previous gen???? no freaking way. if true Ryzen is dead to me, but I will believe it when I see it... especially if this overclocks 200-300 mhz more which Ryzen 3000 won't overclock and maintain all core... so now your looking at 22%-25% gains...

edit: this is for laptops only I think... so disregard the above... my bad.
Stay calm, and remember that this 18% is most likely this new CPU compared to one running all the security mitigations. I would say it’s more of the usual 2-5% IPC uptick that Intel has been giving us for 10 years.
 

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Do you even understand what quad core maximum means ?

As for 18%, I'll believe it when I see it in independent reviews. HYPE HYPE HYPE Intel HYPE.
A simple "no" would have sufficed.

All the benchmarks, sales figures and hardware surveys that don't show AMD in the best of lights are flawed according to their ardent fanboys :D
Hey, when you have to drink the KoolAid, you drink the KoolAid ;)
AMD says Steam survey is flawed, then Steam survey is flawed (as in, it only exaggerated the number of Intel CPUs, somehow). AMD says they tricked Nvidia into releasing at the same price points as before, then AMD tricked Nvidia (damn Occam's razor that says AMD was simply pricing their new cards too high).
 
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Again, what does that have to do with failed 10nm and apparently you don't know what power consumption is. For good clocks, Intel eats power and produces a lot of heat. Now, let's look at current desktop, then imagine a low power zen 2.

What good is an 8 core 14nm in a .6" chassis that instantly overheats?
Well I'm more wait and see for real products: fact is intel have an edge on current laptop market offerings, until amd comes out with 7nm APU that edge won't simply vanish.

Picasso while is quite good apu itself, is more like a i7 7700HQ class product with better igpu.
 
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18% IPC uplift from previous gen. Hmm this gets me thinking that maybe this 18% is actually 1.8% cause somebody forgot the dot in-between? Don't get me wrong it's just hard to believe that Intel will get 18% uplift. 10nm are not going to get it done anyway and with the frequency drop it may end up just around 9th gen. This 18% uplift might actually be compensation for the frequency drop. Especially knowing how the previous gen uplifts looked like I wouldn't be surprised :)
 
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Awesome Intel is comming out with 10nm Desktop CPUs, probably not compatible with the old socket and chipsets because of "power consumption".
The MB vendors have to love Intel.
 

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Awesome Intel is comming out with 10nm Desktop CPUs, probably not compatible with the old socket and chipsets because of "power consumption".
The MB vendors have to love Intel.
This is about mobile CPUs, desktop version aren't expected until 2020. And yes, they will need new motherboards because they're based on a new architecture. (Did Zen work on Bulldozer boards?)
 
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This is about mobile CPUs, desktop version aren't expected until 2020. And yes, they will need new motherboards because they're based on a new architecture. (Did Zen work on Bulldozer boards?)
They mention mobile/desktop why? Did Ryzen 1gen, 2 gen, 3 gen and probably also 4 gen work on the same MB, let me guess.
 
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2 ghz 10nm is not fast lol
It boosts like crazy, over 4GHz (and I am talking about 8th/9th gen) As I said, actually try to work with those things. These are called ultrabooks for a reason. Only crazy people and those with very specific needs are lugging around Eurocoms with desktop CPU's.
Seriously, look to the average use case instead of everything else.
 
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Even though this is for the laptop space it still shows the potential improvements that 10nm desktop Intel CPUs will provide. I have been called an AMD fan boy for stating that the R5 3600 is a better buy than any I5. I will say this right now, I fully expect that Intel will release a 10/20 desktop CPU under their new architecture that will be up to 15% faster in all applications than the previous Gen. The mitigating factor of course will be price. In fact given the current market conditions in some ways it is cheaper to build an Intel system vs AMD . The 9900K is $639.99 on Amazon.ca and the 9700K is $499. The AMD 3900x is $699 and the 3800X is $549.99. If things go as planned though AMDs 7++ and 5nm chips should be no joke. If you are into computing this is the best time to be alive.
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All the benchmarks, sales figures and hardware surveys that don't show AMD in the best of lights are flawed according to their ardent fanboys :D
It should be on everyone's best interest to have accurate data. Intel buyers too. Steam is not a reliable or accurate metric of gamer's hardware.
This is about mobile CPUs, desktop version aren't expected until 2020. And yes, they will need new motherboards because they're based on a new architecture. (Did Zen work on Bulldozer boards?)
Desktop versions are not expected period. Atleast not on 10nm. Not even on their own roadmaps that were leaked. My guess is that they will skip 10nm on desktop alltogether and go straight to 7nm in 2021-2022 timeframe. And there will be at least two stopgap 14nm++++++ desktop versions based on Comet and Rocket Lake in meantime with no IPC gain.

They will need new motherboards beacuse intel is intel. They always only support two generations on a single socket/chipset. It's a business decision not a technical decision to again go with new motherboards.
Even though this is for the laptop space it still shows the potential improvements that 10nm desktop Intel CPUs will provide. I have been called an AMD fan boy for stating that the R5 3600 is a better buy than any I5. I will say this right now, I fully expect that Intel will release a 10/20 desktop CPU under their new architecture that will be up to 15% faster in all applications than the previous Gen. The mitigating factor of course will be price. In fact given the current market conditions in some ways it is cheaper to build an Intel system vs AMD . The 9900K is $639.99 on Amazon.ca and the 9700K is $499. The AMD 3900x is $699 and the 3800X is $549.99. If things go as planned though AMDs 7++ and 5nm chips should be no joke. If you are into computing this is the best time to be alive.
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Intel's 10 core Comet Lake will still use the same age old Skylake++++++ architecture on 14nm. If they managed to backport Sunny Cove arhitecture to 14nm you bet they would be presenting this as a major selling point. But no. At this point they try to cram every single Mhz out of their old arch and supposedly Comet Lake will go up to 5.2Ghz boost but it will be be hot and consume a lot of power to get there. So basicly +200Mhz and +2 cores and that's it. It may actually do ok against Zen2 in some games or memory latency sensitive applications but it's a losing battle at this point. AMD is not slowing down with their innovations. Unlike Intel they will bring out significant improvements every single year. Forget futureproofing. After 2011 stagnation innovation is picking up again: chiplets, 3d stacking, 3d memory stacking, 4 way SMT, EUV, advanced hardware schedulers, massive L5 caches etc
 
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I'm just gonna leave this here, so we can find out what Intel means with their "18%" versus AMD claimed "15%" :p
 
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Intel's 10 core Comet Lake will still use the same age old Skylake++++++ architecture on 14nm. If they managed to backport Sunny Cove arhitecture to 14nm you bet they would be presenting this as a major selling point. But no. At this point they try to cram every single Mhz out of their old arch and supposedly Comet Lake will go up to 5.2Ghz boost but it will be be hot and consume a lot of power to get there. So basicly +200Mhz and +2 cores and that's it. It may actually do ok against Zen2 in some games or memory latency sensitive applications but it's a losing battle at this point. AMD is not slowing down with their innovations. Unlike Intel they will bring out significant improvements every single year. Forget futureproofing. After 2011 stagnation innovation is picking up again: chiplets, 3d stacking, 3d memory stacking, 4 way SMT, EUV, advanced hardware schedulers, massive L5 caches etc
I did not mean Comet lake but the desktop variant using the architecture referenced in this post. I am a person that leans towards to AMD and they are currently doing exactly what you are saying. but I have no delusions that Intel will make a return. They have money, fabs, R&D, serious hires in the last 2 years and dedicated fan base that will be happy to support Intel's next new node.
 
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