• We've upgraded our forums. Please post any issues/requests in this thread.

Intel to Possibly Eliminate 10% of IT Staff for Efficiency

Joined
Jan 29, 2006
Messages
9,066 (2.09/day)
Likes
287
Location
My house.
Processor AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Brisbane @ 2.8GHz (224x12.5, 1.425V)
Motherboard Gigabyte sumthin-or-another, it's got an nForce 430
Cooling Dual 120mm case fans front/rear, Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro, Zalman VF-900 on GPU
Memory 2GB G.Skill DDR2 800
Video Card(s) Sapphire X850XT @ 580/600
Storage WD 160 GB SATA hard drive.
Display(s) Hanns G 19" widescreen, 5ms response time, 1440x900
Case Thermaltake Soprano (black with side window).
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster Live! 24 bit (paired with X-530 speakers).
Power Supply ThermalTake 430W TR2
Software XP Home SP2, can't wait for Vista SP1.
#1
According to a report on Computerworld, Intel is considering laying off about 10% of its IT staff. Intel has 5,000 IT staff, out of a total 90,000 people on Intel's payroll. The lay-offs would be to make Intel "agile and efficient". A fair chunk of the staff would likely be re-deployed, rather than fired.

[small]Source: The Inquirer[/small]
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jan 23, 2006
Messages
1,455 (0.34/day)
Likes
43
Location
The 13th room on the 13th floor of the 13th buildi
Processor custom dupont risk chip cpu prototype
Motherboard custom ibm x5 solid state carbon mainboard
Cooling industrial technologies prototype dupont custom heat transfer unit
Memory 6x 2gig prototype ecc hnc ddr4
Video Card(s) prototype low energy version nvidia 9 series unnumberd card
Storage 1tb solid state hdd
Display(s) 44 inch samsung plasma screen tv/monitor
Case custom ibm mobile home server case
Audio Device(s) custom Yamaha sound processing processor in spm format
Power Supply 1200watt deli cord custom made dupont type psu
Software sun unix/windows type v
#2
you can tell this is more about saving money than it is about staff efficiency, rather than cutting the core workforce which would no doubt lead to some of the staff being overworked why not cut a few managers positions and save the money that way?
 
Joined
Dec 5, 2006
Messages
7,698 (1.91/day)
Likes
747
Processor i7-5820K
Motherboard Gigabyte X99-UD4
Cooling Corsair H100i
Memory 16GB Crucial DDR4-2400
Video Card(s) Asus Strix GTX 1070
Storage 240GB HyperX 3k, 500GB Samsung 850EVO, 2x WD Black 640gb, WD Black 1TB, Seagate 10TB
Display(s) 2x BenQ 24" 1920x1080
Case BitFenix Ghost
Audio Device(s) Focusrite Saffire PRO 14 -> DBX DriveRack PA+ -> Mackie MR8 and MR10 / Corsair Vengeance 2100
Power Supply Corsair RM1000i
Mouse Logitech G500s
Keyboard Logitech G110
Software Windows 10 x64 Pro
#3
you can tell this is more about saving money than it is about staff efficiency, rather than cutting the core workforce which would no doubt lead to some of the staff being overworked why not cut a few managers positions and save the money that way?
Middle management crap...

Overpaid/under worked

I want that job... Then I can do my hobbies while I get paid...
 

ghost101

New Member
Joined
Jun 3, 2006
Messages
1,328 (0.32/day)
Likes
164
Location
London
#4
you can tell this is more about saving money than it is about staff efficiency, rather than cutting the core workforce which would no doubt lead to some of the staff being overworked why not cut a few managers positions and save the money that way?
Who says managers arent being made redundant. If you cut 4900 employees, thats about a 100 managers they dont need.

Whats this crap always against managers. Believe it or not, managers are always needed and these businesses know a hell of a lot more about running a business than you. Especially a larege corporation like Intel who will run a dozen different models on what would happen to costs if they implement a dozen different strategies..

Also, saving money = becoming more efficient. Who on earth told you otherwise?
 
Joined
Sep 15, 2007
Messages
2,735 (0.73/day)
Likes
855
Location
Police/Nanny State of America
System Name More hardware than I use :|
Processor 4.7 8350 - 4.2 4560K - 4.4 4690K
Motherboard Sabertooth R2.0 - Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H-CF - AsRock Z97M KIller
Cooling Mugen 2 rev B push/pull - Hyper 212+ push/pull - Hyper 212+
Memory 16GB Gskill - 8GB Gskill - 16GB Ballistix 1.35v
Video Card(s) Xfire OCed 7950s - Powercolor 290x - Oced Zotac 980Ti AMP! (also have two 7870s)
Storage Crucial 250GB SSD, Kingston 3K 120GB, Sammy 1TB, various WDs, 13TB (actual capactity) NAS with WDs
Display(s) X-star 27" 1440 - Auria 27" 1440 - BenQ 24" 1080 - Acer 23" 1080
Case Lian Li open bench - Fractal Design ARC - Thermaltake Cube (still have HAF 932 and more ARCs)
Audio Device(s) Titanium HD - Onkyo HT-RC360 Receiver - BIC America custom 5.1 set up (and extra Klipsch sub)
Power Supply Corsair 850W V2 - EVGA 1000 G2 - Seasonic 500 and 600W units (dead 750W needs RMA lol)
Mouse Logitech G5 - Sentey Revolution Pro - Sentey Lumenata Pro - multiple wireless logitechs
Keyboard Logitech G11s - Thermaltake Challenger
Software I wish I could kill myself instead of using windows (OSX can suck it too).
#5
Who says managers arent being made redundant. If you cut 4900 employees, thats about a 100 managers they dont need.

Whats this crap always against managers. Believe it or not, managers are always needed and these businesses know a hell of a lot more about running a business than you. Especially a larege corporation like Intel who will run a dozen different models on what would happen to costs if they implement a dozen different strategies..

Also, saving money = becoming more efficient. Who on earth told you otherwise?
The problem is that in general, managers are known to be idiots. They have a fundamental lack of knowledge about their job (maybe completely in life), no foresight, no creativity, no manners, etc. They didn't get the job b/c they're good or how hard they've worked, but b/c they know someone and they kissed a lot of butt.
Yeahhhhhhhh, I can't say I feel sorry for a high paid moron.

And about their numbers; there can easily be too many managers. If an employee has more than one manager telling them what do and especially if the instructions are conflicting, you're gonna have a problem. There shouldn't be overlap in their positions, but it seems there always is.

I currently work at an apartment complex. The regional manger is pointless. She takes away decisions that should be made by the director of the property or even lower in the staff. She doesn't consult anyone about them. The decisions are counter-productive and always expensive mistakes. She can't keep her info. straight between the branches and literally wastes money left and right on things that are useless (she buys stuff b/c it's pretty, although no one agrees and a lot it isn't even visible).
So, she gets paid to lose the company money, make us look bad (b/c she will blame it all on us when stuff doesn't work out), anger the employees, come into work late and leave early (b/c she's not doing squat), and fly around to all of the branches and mess them up as well (which isn't cheap either).
Our property director is more than competent, but she can't exercise her knowledge or do much of anything with a crazy middle-man manager. That's not even to mention corporate, which have their heads up their asses and really cause problems.

Yes, in conclusion, people hate managers. Get the fudge over it.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Joined
Feb 19, 2006
Messages
5,605 (1.30/day)
Likes
1,282
Location
New York
System Name http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73751
Processor i7-920 CO@4.2GHZ / ASUS GL553VW 15.6" Gaming Laptop NVIDIA GTX 960M 4GB Intel Core i56300HQ 8GB DDR4
Motherboard Asus P6T Deluxe Intel X58
Cooling Asetek Liquid CPU Cooling System
Memory CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600
Video Card(s) 2X ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB DDR5 PCI-Express
Storage (RAID-0) with 4 Identical Hard Drives (1.28TB (320GBx4)
Display(s) LG 50" 50PK550 1080p 600Hz Plasma/37 Inch WestingHouse @1920x1080
Case Thermaltake M9 (I hate it its like trying to live in a 1 inch box)
Power Supply ThermalTake ToughPower 1200 Watt
Software Windows 7 professional 64
#6
easy come easy go...the new America;)
 
Joined
Jan 29, 2006
Messages
9,066 (2.09/day)
Likes
287
Location
My house.
Processor AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Brisbane @ 2.8GHz (224x12.5, 1.425V)
Motherboard Gigabyte sumthin-or-another, it's got an nForce 430
Cooling Dual 120mm case fans front/rear, Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro, Zalman VF-900 on GPU
Memory 2GB G.Skill DDR2 800
Video Card(s) Sapphire X850XT @ 580/600
Storage WD 160 GB SATA hard drive.
Display(s) Hanns G 19" widescreen, 5ms response time, 1440x900
Case Thermaltake Soprano (black with side window).
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster Live! 24 bit (paired with X-530 speakers).
Power Supply ThermalTake 430W TR2
Software XP Home SP2, can't wait for Vista SP1.
#7
Gurustud: please watch your language in the future.
 
Joined
Sep 15, 2007
Messages
2,735 (0.73/day)
Likes
855
Location
Police/Nanny State of America
System Name More hardware than I use :|
Processor 4.7 8350 - 4.2 4560K - 4.4 4690K
Motherboard Sabertooth R2.0 - Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H-CF - AsRock Z97M KIller
Cooling Mugen 2 rev B push/pull - Hyper 212+ push/pull - Hyper 212+
Memory 16GB Gskill - 8GB Gskill - 16GB Ballistix 1.35v
Video Card(s) Xfire OCed 7950s - Powercolor 290x - Oced Zotac 980Ti AMP! (also have two 7870s)
Storage Crucial 250GB SSD, Kingston 3K 120GB, Sammy 1TB, various WDs, 13TB (actual capactity) NAS with WDs
Display(s) X-star 27" 1440 - Auria 27" 1440 - BenQ 24" 1080 - Acer 23" 1080
Case Lian Li open bench - Fractal Design ARC - Thermaltake Cube (still have HAF 932 and more ARCs)
Audio Device(s) Titanium HD - Onkyo HT-RC360 Receiver - BIC America custom 5.1 set up (and extra Klipsch sub)
Power Supply Corsair 850W V2 - EVGA 1000 G2 - Seasonic 500 and 600W units (dead 750W needs RMA lol)
Mouse Logitech G5 - Sentey Revolution Pro - Sentey Lumenata Pro - multiple wireless logitechs
Keyboard Logitech G11s - Thermaltake Challenger
Software I wish I could kill myself instead of using windows (OSX can suck it too).
#8
Joined
Jan 29, 2006
Messages
9,066 (2.09/day)
Likes
287
Location
My house.
Processor AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Brisbane @ 2.8GHz (224x12.5, 1.425V)
Motherboard Gigabyte sumthin-or-another, it's got an nForce 430
Cooling Dual 120mm case fans front/rear, Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro, Zalman VF-900 on GPU
Memory 2GB G.Skill DDR2 800
Video Card(s) Sapphire X850XT @ 580/600
Storage WD 160 GB SATA hard drive.
Display(s) Hanns G 19" widescreen, 5ms response time, 1440x900
Case Thermaltake Soprano (black with side window).
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster Live! 24 bit (paired with X-530 speakers).
Power Supply ThermalTake 430W TR2
Software XP Home SP2, can't wait for Vista SP1.
#9
'Tis okay, I was just warning you for the future, no harm done :).
 

Helvetica

New Member
Joined
Sep 13, 2007
Messages
159 (0.04/day)
Likes
2
Processor Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz
Motherboard ASUS P5K-E/WIFI-AP
Memory 2GB DDR2 800mhz
Video Card(s) HD2900XT
Storage WD 10,000RPM
Display(s) 1920x1200
Audio Device(s) Creative
Power Supply 700w
#10
I think some of you guys have seen Office Space too many times. Sure we could all do with less Lumbergs, but a business's primary objective is to make money - and intel is definately not a non-profit organization (thank god).
 
Joined
May 9, 2006
Messages
2,083 (0.49/day)
Likes
267
System Name Not named
Processor Q6600 @ 3.65ghz 1.4375v w/Ultra 120 Extreme
Motherboard Asus P5K-E/WIFI-AP P35 (Pencil Mod)
Cooling 4x 120mm 1x 200mm fans
Memory 8GB DDR2 G.Skill @511mhz (5-5-5-15)
Video Card(s) Asus 7870
Storage Hitachi Deskstar 7K500 500GB SATA2
Display(s) 22Inch Samsung 2220WM
Case Antec 900
Audio Device(s) AuzenTech HDA X-PLOSION 7.1 DTS / Z-5500 logitech
Power Supply Corsair Tx750 watt
#11
My personal experience is that in a lot of cases managers have a fundamental lack of knowledge when it comes to practical application. This applies especially with fairly new ones. As far as i'm concerned most managers should start off as lower level employees rather then be hired straight up as manager. The problem is that they get out of touch with what the employees are actually doing.
 

Ketxxx

Heedless Psychic
Joined
Mar 4, 2006
Messages
11,507 (2.68/day)
Likes
562
Location
Kingdom of gods
System Name Prowler. V9.
Processor Intel i5 3570k @ 4.6GHz 1.2v
Motherboard Asrock Z77 Extreme6
Cooling Modded CoolIT ECO ALC, 3x 120mm Coolermaster Sickleflow fans
Memory 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaws @ 2133MHz 10-10-10-25 1N (T)
Video Card(s) HD7950 Vapor-X @ 1.25GHz 1.05v, 6GHz 1.5v
Storage WD Caviar Black 640GB, 32MB cache, SATA
Display(s) 22" LG Flatron W2242S
Case NZXT Apollo
Audio Device(s) Asus Xonar DX 7.1 PCI-E
Power Supply Corsair HX850w modular
Software Windows 7 x64
#12
I have to say for every job I have had, managers know jack shit, and they have literally sat around all day with their thumb up their arse and tried critising me for "not working fast enough". Dicks.
 

WarEagleAU

Bird of Prey
Joined
Jul 9, 2006
Messages
10,809 (2.59/day)
Likes
529
Location
Gurley, AL
System Name Boddha Getta Boddha Getta Bah!
Processor AMD FX 6100 @ 4.432Ghz @1.382
Motherboard ASUS M5A99X EVO AMD 990X AMD SB950
Cooling Custom Water. EK 240MM Kit, Supreme HSF - Runs 35C
Memory 2 x 4GB Corsair Vengeance White LP @ 1.35V
Video Card(s) XFX Radeon HD 6870 980/1100
Storage WD Caviar Black 1.0TB, WD Caviar Green 1.0TB, WD 160GB
Display(s) Asus VH222/S 22: (21.5" Viewable) 1920x1080p HDMI LCD Monitor
Case NZXT White Switch 810
Audio Device(s) Onboard Realtek 5.1
Power Supply NZXT Hale 90 Gold Cert 750W Modular PSU
Software Windows 8.1 Profession 64 Bit
#13
micromanagement is the downfall of society.
 
Joined
Aug 30, 2006
Messages
6,374 (1.55/day)
Likes
983
System Name ICE-QUAD // ICE-CRUNCH
Processor Q6600 // 2x Xeon 5472
Memory 2GB DDR // 8GB FB-DIMM
Video Card(s) HD3850-AGP // FireGL 3400
Display(s) 2 x Samsung 204Ts = 3200x1200
Audio Device(s) Audigy 2
Software Windows Server 2003 R2 as a Workstation now migrated to W10 with regrets.
#14
The problem is that in general, managers are known to be idiots. They have a fundamental lack of knowledge about their job...
NO COMPANY wants to hire idiots as managers, neither do shareholders want them.

The problem lies in promotion. There are management positions that need to be filled, and not enough good managers available for hire. So the positions get filled with idiot workers.

Where is the problem? "Managers" or idiot workers pretending to be "managers"?
 
B

bassmasta

Guest
#15
the military loves to have stupid people in charge. the problem is that say, an engineer were to be promoted. in theory, he could then end up co-ordinating between other engineers, and the flight crew, or perhaps the gunnery department. engineers don't need to know jack all about flying a jet, so when the officer handling the pilots tells him that the controls need to be set a certain way, he will do it. the problem being that he doesn't understand it. the guy getting the instructions probably repaired leaky pipes and oiled the engines once a month. engineers on flight crew don't get promoted, mostly because they work too hard and it would lead to too much supervision with five guys actually working, so this guy getting the instructions for the aircraft might as well be adjusting the throttles on spaghetti for all it's worth. managers are simply expected to be able to handle a variety of employees, even though they may only have experience in one of those positions, or none at all.