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Introducing the All New Mac Pro-The Most Radical Mac Ever

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Apple today redefined pro computing with the launch of the all-new Mac Pro. Designed around an innovative unified thermal core, the Mac Pro features the latest Intel Xeon processors with up to 12 cores, dual workstation-class GPUs, six Thunderbolt 2 ports, PCIe-based flash storage and ultra-fast ECC memory. Packing amazing performance in a stunning new design, the all-new Mac Pro starts at $2,999 (US) and will be available in December.

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I actaully rather like the looks on that thing, but I don't think it belongs on a workstation.

Anyway didn't even know there were octocore Xeons. Imagine dual sockets..

EDIT: Wait no it's up to the 12 core version.
 
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Here you can buy a car with those money...
 

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I'm simply dumbfounded.
 
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Looks like the fastest trash can comes with some pretty nice looking components.

Ain't that ironic.
 
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Looks like a subwoofer to me. In all honesty, if I had the money I'd consider buying one and Bootcamping it with Windows for gaming.
 
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This would stick out like a sore thumb from any other apple products, I don't understand why they'd use a black colour scheme. I guess their standard grey/ white aluminium may make it look like a trash can, but that's what happens when your product is, well, in the shape of a trash can
 
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Looks like a subwoofer to me. In all honesty, if I had the money I'd consider buying one and Bootcamping it with Windows for gaming.
gaming on FirePros huh ?

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Those GPU designations (FirePro D300 and D500) aren't in the GPU database and don't seem to match anything I've heard of before. What kind of silicon are we talking about here?
 
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Bwahaha...finally Apple realizes its true function. Design a product that looks like a trash can.

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I'm looking forward to a dissection, but that's about it.

Anyway didn't even know there were octocore Xeons. Imagine dual sockets..
You may enjoy this. 80 cores, 160 threads.

 
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I'm just wondering tho....is there a need to use FirePro's on a Mac?
Seeing as most of the CAD work is done on windows.

Sometimes I wonder if this forum is even tech related....the 12 core CPU is the new Ivy bridge based Xeon (if it's a single CPU of course).
 
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The Mac Pro with Quad-core CPU, 12GB of RAM, 256GB SSD, and Dual 2GB Radeon D300s (1280SPs, Pitcairn based) starts at $2999. I can understand an Apple pricing premium, but this is outrageous. They don't even throw in a 4th stick of memory so that you can use quad channel for that price. The raw cost of hardware in that system is somewhere around $1500, so you are paying an extra $1500 for a small case and limited expansion.

For those who still think this has dual CPUs, it doesn't. It's single CPU and dual GPU.

Upgrading to a 12-core system is probably another $2000 (the E5-2695V2, the cheapest 12-core, is $2336 and the E5-2697V2 is $2614). Add external Thunderbolt storage for about another $500 and you're looking at $5500 for a professional video editing system, and that's with no monitor, mouse, or keyboard.

Apple has taken the Mac Pro, which was already a niche product, and reduced its niche even more. The Mac Pro used to be a high end workstation and its price was even comparable to dual processor workstations with the same hardware. Now it's just a design curiosity. Anyone serious about video editing will go for a faster workstation with dual 10-core processors for the same price as the Mac Pro 12-core. Or if you want to save money get a workstation with dual 6-core processors and save $1000-$2000.

That price is so outrageous I seriously wonder if they'll bundle Final Cut Pro with the system and claim that it's a value since you're getting it for "free." Because at this point there is no reason to buy a Mac Pro unless you are absolutely in love with Final Cut Pro. No wonder Adobe Premiere and Sony Vegas are gaining so much market share compared to Final Cut Pro.
 
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I'm just wondering tho....is there a need to use FirePro's on a Mac?
Seeing as most of the CAD work is done on windows.

Sometimes I wonder if this forum is even tech related....the 12 core CPU is the new Ivy bridge based Xeon (if it's a single CPU of course).

:eek: Well I'll Never!!!!!

Not everyone has the same needs so yes someone may need a firepro or two on a mac....
 
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For people invested on the Apple platform, this is almost godsend. A cute expensive dustbin to others. I want one :<
 

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For people invested on the Apple platform, this is almost godsend. A cute expensive dustbin to others. I want one :<
Apple is supposed to innovate but...

I think some modders on this forum came up with trash bin computers awhile ago.
 
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Hardware very strong, but do not know where is the PSU
Probably a transformer not to dissimilar from something like the xBox.



Apple managed to hide the PSU for their iMac G3 pretty well, but I don't think they'll get away with it for something higher wattage like this.
 
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Sooo… Spec matching the rebrands...

D300 = FirePro W7000 ($650) or 7870 ($180) with 1280sp
D500 = 7870XT ($250) with 1536sp
D700 = w9000 ($3k) or 7970 ($300) 2048sp

I somehow don’t think apple is paying full price for any of these.

CPU is E5-1xxx those are cheaper than the 2p variants ofc.

I run dual e5-2680s with a 7970… I yawned at this release.
Too little too late.... and fugly...
 

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The Mac Pro with Quad-core CPU, 12GB of RAM, 256GB SSD, and Dual 2GB Radeon D300s (1280SPs, Pitcairn based) starts at $2999. I can understand an Apple pricing premium, but this is outrageous. They don't even throw in a 4th stick of memory so that you can use quad channel for that price. The raw cost of hardware in that system is somewhere around $1500, so you are paying an extra $1500 for a small case and limited expansion.

For those who still think this has dual CPUs, it doesn't. It's single CPU and dual GPU.

Upgrading to a 12-core system is probably another $2000 (the E5-2695V2, the cheapest 12-core, is $2336 and the E5-2697V2 is $2614). Add external Thunderbolt storage for about another $500 and you're looking at $5500 for a professional video editing system, and that's with no monitor, mouse, or keyboard.

Apple has taken the Mac Pro, which was already a niche product, and reduced its niche even more. The Mac Pro used to be a high end workstation and its price was even comparable to dual processor workstations with the same hardware. Now it's just a design curiosity. Anyone serious about video editing will go for a faster workstation with dual 10-core processors for the same price as the Mac Pro 12-core. Or if you want to save money get a workstation with dual 6-core processors and save $1000-$2000.

That price is so outrageous I seriously wonder if they'll bundle Final Cut Pro with the system and claim that it's a value since you're getting it for "free." Because at this point there is no reason to buy a Mac Pro unless you are absolutely in love with Final Cut Pro. No wonder Adobe Premiere and Sony Vegas are gaining so much market share compared to Final Cut Pro.
Apple tax can be very high.
 
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:eek: Well I'll Never!!!!!

Not everyone has the same needs so yes someone may need a firepro or two on a mac....
:D I didn't mean it in a bad way, it's just something I notice from time to time - depends on the perspective I guess.

Yes I know there are different needs, but my point is will these cards be used for it's intended purpose. I never bothered with the OS X a lot so I don't know of any programs that would take advantage of them as opposed to the windows environment where it's standard for CAD etc.
 
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:D I didn't mean it in a bad way, it's just something I notice from time to time - depends on the perspective I guess.

Yes I know there are different needs, but my point is will these cards be used for it's intended purpose. I never bothered with the OS X a lot so I don't know of any programs that would take advantage of them as opposed to the windows environment where it's standard for CAD etc.
Not everyone works in the "CAD" industry,
There's applications out there purposely written to run ONLY on/with firepros
(PACS, SPEI, DICOM, gamification, data acquisition & analysis, simulation, etc)
which is quite certainly the type of pros apple is targeting with this machine.

I know people say is better or more cost efficient to build one from the ground up
perhaps even a pre-built one from a large vendor but, there's mission critical deadlines
that you simply dont have the time to be dealing with and/or handling a build, tweak, or troubleshooting.

(HP workstation division is the worse, even if you purchased large scale blade-based infrastructure,.... compare this versus walking to the nearest apple store and simply saying "here... fix this for me or give me a new one") :D