It just confirms what we already know from steam most people don't spend more than $350 on a gpu
not only that but same with most pre-builts as they tend to use GPUs around that price point hence why the RTX3060 started to climb on the STEAM survey and people tossed a hissy fit but pre-built gaming PCs outnumber "ground up DIY" systems
8GB on a 500 usd gpu was ok a half decade ago but gamers should expect more in 2023
I would say yes but more to the point, $500 for an 8GB was ok five years. What Nvidia plans to pass off for $500 in 2023 (if rumors hold true) is ridiculous in terms of performance
Exactly my thoughts. My minimum isn't necessarily the same as your minimum. The resolutions, graphical settings and the games we play differ greatly. Thus, it is impossible to say what "the minimum" is, if there is such a thing.
it's a poor question from the OP and basically a carry over from our other discussion of "24GB worth it for gaming". Really the question that most people here are debating (outside of a few just pushing their agenda) "Are video cards like the RTX3060ti, RTX 3070, (and if rumors are true) RTX 4060/ti worth buying today in 2023 for AAA gaming at 1080p Ultra settings?" and even then that's hard question to answer because we are talking about price, performance, and period of time. First I'm going to toss out two groups of people, 1) those who play at low FPS (under 45FPS) or lower settings and 2) those that play at high FPS 100+ . There is nothing wrong with either group, both are perfectly valid but those people already know what they want or don't want and there is no moving them from their position.
in 2022, games like CoD Modern Warfare 2 those cards gave you over 100 FPS avg with lows in 60-70's
if you look at something like Hoqwarts Legacy, both the 3060ti/3070 were around 70FPS in low and 80FPS in avg in 1080p ultra, obliviously playable and fairly smooth
if you look at something like the last of us part1(a game several people crowed as the death of 8GB cards on this forum) you see 50fps avg for those cards yet lows dropped to the low teens. Clearly not an enjoyable experience yet lowering settings to high you see avg FPS shoot up to the mid 80's and lows in mid 70's so clearly - fairly smooth
so are those cards capable of 1080p ultra settings in 2023, well yes but you are starting to see a game where their performance may be an issue for ultra settings. That game may be a one off for 2023 but we may see a few more in 2024 and by 2025 those cards will still be performing well for a number of games at 1080p Ultra but obliviously a larger number of games are going to need better performance for 1080p.
that brings us to
@oxrufiioxo issue with price; at the rumored $499 cost for the 4060/ti and the current cost of the RTX3070, the pure rasterization performance cost of those cards is ridiculous in 2023. Sure Nvidia will talk about their "added value" but for most gamers they just want smooth game play at native resolution.
so the cards are capable of 1080p ultra settings but expensive and most likely a rather short time
One can also debate the need for ultra settings (as shown by last of us part 1) as opposed to high or very high given the large performance requirements for what some people perceive as little visual value. There is no right of wrong answer for that, playing games at 1440p 144FPS and ultra settings is just as valid as 1080p 60 FPS high settings. It's when one side pushes their agenda onto the other side that annoys me.
(now i know why my 1070 had issue with it 
