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I genuinely cannot understand how a game that runs at 60fps looks somehow better on a 144hz panel than on a 60hz one. Am I missing something ?

We could tell you all day long lower input lag higher refresh rates alone just by the panel makes a different but what i think for you would be the best test, just sit down in front of your 60hz monitor and then do the same game with a 144hz TN 1ms monitor side by side even you will see the difference and feel it.
 
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We could tell you all day long lower input lag higher refresh rates alone just by the panel makes a different but what i think for you would be the best test, just sit down in front of your 60hz monitor and then do the same game with a 144hz TN 1ms monitor side by side even you will see the difference and feel it.

I wasn't talking about response time. The game is updated at 16ms intervals and displayed , still , at 16ms intervals, the monitor doesn't magically reduce that or reduces the input lag. I have gamed on a 144hz monitor , there is obviously an increase in smoothness and response time when you go higher and higher , but the scenario I was talking about is with a game that doesn't come close to 144hz , there should be no extra "smoothness" so to speak , at least I can't find a logic reason for that.
 

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I genuinely cannot understand how a game that runs at 60fps looks somehow better on a 144hz panel than on a 60hz one. Am I missing something ?
It all depends on whether it's vsync locked or not.

Vsync on, 60Hz looks better, off, 144Hz looks better.

On my smartphone now, so can't go into details.
 
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I wasn't talking about response time. The game is updated at 16ms intervals and displayed , still , at 16ms intervals, the monitor doesn't magically reduce that or reduces the input lag. I have gamed on a 144hz monitor , there is obviously an increase in smoothness and response time when you go higher and higher , but with a game that doesn't come close to 144hz , there should be no extra "smoothness" so to speak , at least I can't find a logic reason for that.
Look Budy, i came from an nearly 5 year old tft Monitor with 60hz, i had to run lower 60-70fps with my new Monitor until i got my 10180-1080ti , and even at those lower fps it was a night and day smoothness and response difference, alone the less smearing ghosting holy lord, i thought i would go blind or so but it was only the old Monitor. Well even at lower fps the panel still just has a higher response time instead of your ordinary Monitor like Pixel update wise from the Panel that is difference
 
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It all depends on whether it's vsync locked or not.

Vsync on, 60Hz looks better, off, 144Hz looks better.

On my smartphone now, so can't go into details.

I am well aware of that , but that's simply because with Vsync off you allow those sub 16ms frames to be displayed (and no tearing on 144hz) , you get a similar effect on a 60Hz panel too with Vsync off and something like Fast Sync , it only truly makes a difference if the game consistently stays above 60 fps.
 
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I own a Dell 1440p 144hz GSYNC monitor and games are butter smooth even using a gtx970. Not only is the image always sharp but it puts less strain on my eyes which is good because I am getting old.
 
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Look Budy, i came from an nearly 5 year old tft Monitor with 60hz, i had to run lower 60-70fps with my new Monitor until i got my 10180-1080ti , and even at those lower fps it was a night and day smoothness and response difference, alone the less smearing ghosting holy lord, i thought i would go blind or so but it was only the old Monitor. Well even at lower fps the panel still just has a higher response time instead of your ordinary Monitor like Pixel update wise from the Panel that is difference

I am not negating the use or advantages of a 144hz monitor I already stated it's better , we all know that. You are probably well above 60fps at all times and that card can hold consistent frame times that's why you see than night and day difference. Go ahead and use a low end card that struggles at 1080p60fps and you will see that night and day difference vanishing , with OP's 1070 that's clearly not the case and I would consider a high refresh rate monitor is worth it his case.

My opinion is that if your system can only do 60fps and nothing more, it's just simply not worth spending the money for such a thing.
 

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I genuinely cannot understand how a game that runs at 60fps looks somehow better on a 144hz panel than on a 60hz one. Am I missing something ?

high refresh panels will be guaranteed to have less smearing and ghosting than 60hz panels, even at 60hz.
 

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high refresh panels will be guaranteed to have less smearing and ghosting than 60hz panels, even at 60hz.

This pretty much. If you were to take a 60hz panel and a 144hz panel that had otherwise identical properties, there would be no difference. The fact is that refresh rate is just one surface spec for monitors, and using it as your only metric can confuse things. Sort of like trying to compare the 0-60 times of different cars with just horsepower numbers, there is a lot more going on.
 

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I am well aware of that , but that's simply because with Vsync off you allow those sub 16ms frames to be displayed (and no tearing on 144hz) , you get a similar effect on a 60Hz panel too with Vsync off and something like Fast Sync , it only truly makes a difference if the game consistently stays above 60 fps.
You actually do get tearing with 144Hz refresh. Basically, no vsync = tearing, no ifs or buts. EDIT You get judder too, but it's a lot less noticeable because they're happening faster.

All that happens is that at the higher refresh it's a lot less noticeable since it's much more fleeting and a 60 fps video still looks smooth, with just little judders visible if one looks closely and a bit of tearing at times, too.

I know this from experience too, since I've had a 144Hz monitor for the last 5 years and have looked closely at the images under different conditions.

FastSync works in a different way and shouldn't be compared to vsync on/off. This manages to give you the best of both worlds, but at the cost of making the GPU work harder and more vram use due to those discarded frames. Killer feature in my opinion and well worth upgrading to Pascal for this alone. I'm curious to see if AMD's Vega will have a similar feature.
 
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dont forget frame rate caps, you can get a 144hz monitor with Vsync off, and cap FPS at 143 and enjoy the bliss.
 
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I didn't need a new monitor, but decided to buy a Viotek GN27C 27 from Amazon last night. VA panel, free sync, 144hz, 27" and was $250. It's a new brand but over all ratings from all there monitors are pretty good. Mine is supposed to come in Monday. Viotek also has a 32" for $350. Amazon a good place if don't like or broke for returns.
 
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most high refresh rate monitors come with either freesync or gsync.
provide you have a gpu from matching manufacturer, these are the real killer feature of these monitors :)
 

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most high refresh rate monitors come with either freesync or gsync.
provide you have a gpu from matching manufacturer, these are the real killer feature of these monitors :)

exactly. no point IMO in buying a 144hz monitor unless you are using gsync or freesync.
 

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exactly. no point IMO in buying a 144hz monitor unless you are using gsync or freesync.

I disagree, at least on the budget catagory. Freesync maybe, but gsync has that green premium. Besides, most budget monitors with adaptive sync have very limited range. Freesync that only works between 48-90htz doesn't do you any good if ypu are pulling 100+ frames.
 
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I didn't need a new monitor, but decided to buy a Viotek GN27C 27 from Amazon last night. VA panel, free sync, 144hz, 27" and was $250. It's a new brand but over all ratings from all there monitors are pretty good. Mine is supposed to come in Monday. Viotek also has a 32" for $350. Amazon a good place if don't like or broke for returns.

This damn thread :mad: made me buy the same monitor as you, should get it in a few days. I OCed my asus to 70hz and enabled freesynce[only works at 60hz though] and wow what a difference 10hz makes for eye strain. The real difference was in gaming though where I can actually hit stuff now. I think it's more of a individual thing but 60hz has always bothered my eyes, maybe because I have better than average eye site. Hopefully I won't be stuck in game land after I get it.
 
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I disagree, at least on the budget catagory. Freesync maybe, but gsync has that green premium. Besides, most budget monitors with adaptive sync have very limited range. Freesync that only works between 48-90htz doesn't do you any good if ypu are pulling 100+ frames.

CRU tool lets you adjust freesync range not sure how well it works on any given monitor. You can also use it to enable freesync on a lot of monitors with dvi,dp or hdmi.
 
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