Is it possible to flash the bios of a "non fake" video card with a "fake" video card?

daltanious78 · Aug 9, 2021

Hi everyone, some time ago I bought a video card on a website, thinking it was a gtx 960 4 gb ram unfortunately, but I discovered later that it was a "fake" video card and I would like to know if it is possible to flash the bios of a "not fake" video card on this video card that I bought at the time (if it were also the bios of a gtx 450/550 it would be more than good for what I have to do)

eidairaman1 · Aug 11, 2021

Yes but you need to verify what bios is on the card, so get gpu-z and get a screenshot of it. Then pull the heatsink and carefully clean the gpu die and ram chips Get a pic of the gpu die and the ram chips on front and back of card.

Post screenshot and pics here

siryoink · Aug 11, 2021

You will need a chip programmer to do so. CH341A or equivalent. If you get that one, you want the one with the clip to clip onto the bios chip. They're about $8-$10 at aliexpress or amazon.

eidairaman1 · Aug 13, 2021

siryoink said:
You will need a chip programmer to do so. CH341A or equivalent. If you get that one, you want the one with the clip to clip onto the bios chip. They're about $8-$10 at aliexpress or amazon.

There is a version of NVflash that disables certificates

daltanious78 · Aug 26, 2021

Hi, these are pictures of my "fake" GTX 960 video card. Searching the forum I found that the same video card was also passed off as a GTX 1050.

I wanted to ask a few things before being able to flash the bios

1- how can I safely identify which video card is it?

2 - if I used firmware from a "real" GTX 960 ... would this work or should I use firmware from an older video card (like a GTX 550)?

thanks for all the help you can give me

Keullo-e · Aug 26, 2021

Most likely a GTS 450 like almost every fake card out there (a GTX 550 Ti would have six memory chips). Post a GPU-Z screenshot too.

eidairaman1 · Aug 26, 2021

daltanious78 said:
Hi, these are pictures of my "fake" GTX 960 video card. Searching the forum I found that the same video card was also passed off as a GTX 1050.

I wanted to ask a few things before being able to flash the bios

1- how can I safely identify which video card is it?

2 - if I used firmware from a "real" GTX 960 ... would this work or should I use firmware from an older video card (like a GTX 550)?

thanks for all the help you can give me

We need a gpu-z screenshot

Also what is on the GPU die?

siryoink · Aug 26, 2021

Can you use gpuz to dump the firmware that is on it?

daltanious78 · Aug 28, 2021

As requested I have now published the images of GPU-Z and I think it is a GTS 450

eidairaman1 · Aug 29, 2021

daltanious78 said:
As requested I have now published the images of GPU-Z and I think it is a GTS 450

GF116 is surely 450GTS or 550, 550Ti, depends on what memory is on the card if gddr5 or ddr3...

Its Fermi for sure, not a 750 or 960.

daltanious78 said:
As requested I have now published the images of GPU-Z and I think it is a GTS 450

I see the stenciling was removed.

Are all the ram chips on the card Samsung? What model or ram so i can determine if they are 1 Gibibit, or 2, 4, 8

daltanious78 · Aug 29, 2021

i checked the video card and saw that there are 8 samsung memory chips k4g10325fe-hc04 4 chips per side

eidairaman1 · Aug 29, 2021

daltanious78 said:
i checked the video card and saw that there are 8 samsung memory chips k4g10325fe-hc04 4 chips per side

Your ram chips are 1 Gbit each or 0.125 GByte x8 makes it a 1GByte Card

Your bios version 70.26.26.00.01 came from an Asus branded 450 GTS 1GB.

Verified 450 GTS Bios

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Extensive repository of graphics card BIOS image files. Our database covers submissions categorized by GPU vendor, type, and board partner variant.

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Unverified bios, just ensure any bios you try has 1 VGA, 1 HDM1, 1 DVI port with Samsung Memory in the details.

TechPowerUp

Extensive repository of graphics card BIOS image files. Our database covers submissions categorized by GPU vendor, type, and board partner variant.

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TechPowerUp

Extensive repository of graphics card BIOS image files. Our database covers submissions categorized by GPU vendor, type, and board partner variant.

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550 Ti

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Extensive repository of graphics card BIOS image files. Our database covers submissions categorized by GPU vendor, type, and board partner variant.

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Use this tool to flash.

NVIDIA NVFlash with Certificate Checks Bypassed v5.287 Download

This modified version of NVFlash lets you flash a modified BIOS to your NVIDIA graphics card.

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Or this one

NVIDIA NVFlash with Board Id Mismatch Disabled v5.590.0 Download

This is a patched version of NVIDIA's NVFlash. On Turing cards, NVFlash no longer allows overriding of the "board ID mismatch" message through comm

www.techpowerup.com

Open the tools in a Command prompt with Administrator Privileges/Rights.

Typing nvflash /? or -? Get you the list of commands

daltanious78 · Aug 29, 2021

do I have to install the card to flash the bios ... or can I try with an eeprom programmer?

eidairaman1 · Aug 29, 2021

daltanious78 said:
do I have to install the card to flash the bios ... or can I try with an eeprom programmer?

You can use the flash utility with the card installed, or a spi flasher with the card not installed, your choice.

daltanious78 · Aug 29, 2021

in your experience ... would it be better to use an eeprom programmer or the program?

eidairaman1 · Aug 29, 2021

daltanious78 said:
in your experience ... would it be better to use an eeprom programmer or the program?

You know how use MS DOS. Yes or no

daltanious78 · Aug 29, 2021

yes .. I can use MS DOS .. so do you advise me to use the program ??

eidairaman1 · Aug 30, 2021

daltanious78 said:
yes .. I can use MS DOS .. so do you advise me to use the program ??

Yes use that first

daltanious78 · Aug 30, 2021

unfortunately I think I will have to use the eeprom programmer because I can't flash the rom with neither of the two programs that have been linked to me above

daltanious78 · Aug 31, 2021

as I mentioned in the previous post I have problems flashing with nvflash any command I give to nvflash gives me the error in the image ... so before using the eeprom programmer I would like to know if there is a way to solve this error .

thanks for everything

eidairaman1 · Sep 1, 2021

Nvflash -? Or /? For list of commands

siryoink · Sep 1, 2021

I don't believe nvflash with the certificates disabled works on these cards. Reason being you have to change the device id. Has there been any anecdotal evidence that these cards can be flashed without a chip programmer?

eidairaman1 · Sep 1, 2021

siryoink said:
I don't believe nvflash with the certificates disabled works on these cards. Reason being you have to change the device id. Has there been any anecdotal evidence that these cards can be flashed without a chip programmer?

Witnessed it before on here so yeah. Perhaps i need to suggest the og nvflash tool.

daltanious78 · Sep 1, 2021

since I could not flash with the program I decided to use an eeprom programmer and I used some of the firmware of the asus and dell nvidia that were in the links posted above ... but every time I flash the video card with these bios the result is what you see in the picture ... does anyone have any idea how I can fix it?

eidairaman1 · Sep 1, 2021

Looks like faulty memory, in that instance bin the card

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