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Walmart has a $45 plan with tmobile towers. I bought a used samsung s10+ last month and enjoy prepaid instead of post-paid plans. Unlimited everything, I download alot of stuff, it shows last month I downloaded 464gb, this month I'm going on 3.12tb downloaded over cell towers.
 
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The data caps are literally because Comcast runs on Verizon. You have to pay more for unlimited and it just more money for Verizon.
Hi,
Indeed but verizon/ at&t dumped all their pay by the gig plans and all are unlimited just so they can charge more knowing you don't need or want unlimited data
Phone minutes is still unlimited.
 

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Indeed but verizon/ at&t dumped all their pay by the gig plans and all are unlimited just so they can charge more knowing you don't need or want unlimited data
Phone minutes is still unlimited.
The family data shared plans were causing too many issues with overages and having to keep a certain number of staff to explain this and that. When data is extremely cheap why not cut corners and make it all cheaper?

Talk and text will always be unlimited unless you're out of network or international. That's a given.
 
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Hard to believe this because plans on verizon are as high as at&t's are and xfinity mobole is 25.us a month if you pay by the gig which is great because I don't use data on cell very much at all literally email stuff only anything else is local wifi data.
I looked it up before I posted :) :):toast:
 
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The family data shared plans were causing too many issues with overages and having to keep a certain number of staff to explain this and that. When data is extremely cheap why not cut corners and make it all cheaper?

Talk and text will always be unlimited unless you're out of network or international. That's a given.
Hi,
Think they just throttle speed and get you that way lol
Either way I'd rather save the $$$ for something worth spending it on saving 35.us a month adds up fast thank you xfinity for not being tone deaf :cool:
 
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i buy smartphones in a shop and a seperate contract.

at the moment i have unlimited calls,SMS and 5GB LTE per Month for 6.99€
 
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i buy smartphones in a shop and a seperate contract.

at the moment i have unlimited calls,SMS and 5GB LTE per Month for 6.99€

And you live in Eastern Europe? Like Romania or something?

I pay 12,50 EUR for unlimited calls/sms and 1 GB data.
 
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And you live in Eastern Europe? Like Romania or something?

I pay 12,50 EUR for unlimited calls/sms and 1 GB data.
Germany.
 

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Hi,
Think they just throttle speed and get you that way lol
Either way I'd rather save the $$$ for something worth spending it on saving 35.us a month adds up fast thank you xfinity for not being tone deaf :cool:
They throttle when you go over because there was too many issues with the $15/1GB overages, and they were losing too many customers.

As for Xfinity, we bought our own router and went with the unlimited pack. Technically we're paying only $15 more for data since, well, not paying for renting their hardware.
 
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phone plans are for suckers, just buy a prepaid phone & youre done. no commitment, no monthly phone payments, interest, credit impact.....
i think my families 3 iphones, & 2 samsung galaxy's cost me $1200 outright to buy, & the monthly service fees are $150/month , unlimited everything with 30Gb hotspot on all 5 phones.
 
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And you live in Eastern Europe? Like Romania or something?

I pay 12,50 EUR for unlimited calls/sms and 1 GB data.
I used to pay only minutes that I spoke, but operator became very greedy real fast and now I'm on plan. It sucks to be on plan, but I get 300 minutes and unlimited SMS for 2.89 Euros. That's way more than I need, I would be fine with 20 minutes and 200 SMSs. That's still cheaper than without plan, one SMS is now 0.23 Euro and just year ago it used to be 0.03 Euro. Can't remember how much talk time used to cost and what it costs now, but it also grew obscenely. Basically 3 minutes of talk time can cost more without plan than what plan does. Since I almost never call anyone, after first price raise I though that initial price hike may not affect me much, but when it became really shitty I gave up and am on plan. I sometimes buy data, but only lowest plan, which is 2GB for month. That costs 2.5 Euros per month. Now this isn't too bad, but it used to be better too. I don't really need data, why would I need it if I have WiFi at home? Unfortunately, I spend some time not at home and thus having data is pretty nice and can be handy. I still use it like a monk. I think I only used 0.06 GB in one week, which is really not much. Using Opera Mini with high image compression helps. So in total, I pay 5.39 Euros sometimes. I guess that's low by TPU's standards, but I used to pay a lot less before my operator became greedy asshole. I think, that if they raise prices third time, I will just switch to the last seemingly cheaper operator, but all in all it's not looking great. For what I need, I think that it's unjustified that I have to pay more than 2 Euros per month. If this shit with prices continues and reaches something as stupid as 5 Euros per month just for calls and SMSs, I may for real just stop using my phone and look for alternatives. I ain't no charity for people that I don't like.
 
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I used to pay only minutes that I spoke, but operator became very greedy real fast and now I'm on plan. It sucks to be on plan, but I get 300 minutes and unlimited SMS for 2.89 Euros. That's way more than I need, I would be fine with 20 minutes and 200 SMSs. That's still cheaper than without plan, one SMS is now 0.23 Euro and just year ago it used to be 0.03 Euro. Can't remember how much talk time used to cost and what it costs now, but it also grew obscenely. Basically 3 minutes of talk time can cost more without plan than what plan does. Since I almost never call anyone, after first price raise I though that initial price hike may not affect me much, but when it became really shitty I gave up and am on plan. I sometimes buy data, but only lowest plan, which is 2GB for month. That costs 2.5 Euros per month. Now this isn't too bad, but it used to be better too. I don't really need data, why would I need it if I have WiFi at home? Unfortunately, I spend some time not at home and thus having data is pretty nice and can be handy. I still use it like a monk. I think I only used 0.06 GB in one week, which is really not much. Using Opera Mini with high image compression helps. So in total, I pay 5.39 Euros sometimes. I guess that's low by TPU's standards, but I used to pay a lot less before my operator became greedy asshole. I think, that if they raise prices third time, I will just switch to the last seemingly cheaper operator, but all in all it's not looking great. For what I need, I think that it's unjustified that I have to pay more than 2 Euros per month. If this shit with prices continues and reaches something as stupid as 5 Euros per month just for calls and SMSs, I may for real just stop using my phone and look for alternatives. I ain't no charity for people that I don't like.

that's really cheap consider how much you use, but i think most people use data nowadays.
i guess you are one of those rare individual with a low usage for communication.
If your provider does raise prices, you will see other competition raise similar price but maybe with different price plans to be competitive.
I've seen some countries have plans at $149 dollars per month and people do sign up for it because of perks like.. $600 dollars off phones, spotify premium, netflix, unlimited data, calls, messages. People consume data more than minutes these days, back 15 years ago it used to be all about getting the best deal for call minutes.
I should be more like you and monitor more of my usage so i can plan on saving more money with the right plan.
 
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that's really cheap consider how much you use, but i think most people use data nowadays.
In month I probably only use 5% maybe 10% of my both plans, I wouldn't call that a great deal. I'm really buying a lot more than I need only because that is the most minimal configuration.

i guess you are one of those rare individual with a low usage for communication.
Being partially deaf and since childhood perceiving mobile data as luxury helps. I remember that in dark 00s I was really excited to buy 20MB. Back then mobile internet was only WAP and thus it barely used few kilobytes on basically any site. I remember that JAVA games were 60 kB, maybe with some really uncommon game approaching 100 kB. And surprisingly enough in that tiny amount of space it was possible to fit some rather complex games. I remember there was full Asphalt (maybe 5th) with career mode, many races, different locations. Mind you driving physics were really basic, SNES level at best, but that's still something. There was Gangstarr, GTA close with top down view and full city with missions, cars and obviously car stealing. My phone had too low JAVA version to run that, but other could. I think my Nokia was S30 something. Another impressive titles was College Basketball. A full basketball game with maybe 20 teams, full career mode and probably even team building. The only clear downside of that game was that my phone ran it quite poorly, probably 10-15 fps, so playability wasn't great, but for 60 kB, it's awesome. Today you need 20-30 gB for what is essentially the same game, but with nicer graphics and physics. Speaking of 3D games, I remember there were bunch of Counter Strike 1.6 clones, but those all needed S40 version and were several hundred kB big. It's really impressive what kind of games actually ran on very modest hardware. And I guess that explains why 20MB of data was a lot back then.

If your provider does raise prices, you will see other competition raise similar price but maybe with different price plans to be competitive.
I've seen some countries have plans at $149 dollars per month and people do sign up for it because of perks like.. $600 dollars off phones, spotify premium, netflix, unlimited data, calls, messages
Some people just can't do math. That's literally 4 months of saving up for that same discount and everything else in plan like spotify, netflix is really just shovelware, that carrier probably doesn't even pay a dollar to buy. Unlimited data, calls and SMS sound really cool, until you realize that you only need so much of them and that you are basically paying for something that doesn't truly cost that much or likely doesn't even cost anything. Pandemic has shown that data caps are basically a scam, if carrier says that it's for traffic control or else their network will be overloaded. And I highly doubt that just wireless equipment maintenance costs much. Maybe a dollar or two for each customer if even that much, not just cents. Considering that coverage in US is like 65%, which is not great at all. Here in Lithuania, it is 94-97%. And likely with as much speed as they can provide and as much as your device can receive over LTE.


I should be more like you and monitor more of my usage so i can plan on saving more money with the right plan.
I don't really have any good monitor for such stuff. My own operator's app has almost 1 day delay in measurements and in Opera Mini I only see how much it manages to compress data over all time. If I need entertainment I would rather download videos for offline viewing, same with books. Things like Youtube are WiFi only. I don't use things like Snapchat, Facebook, Instagram or Tik Tok. I don't even know how they all look, except for Facebook. I also disable background data usage on all apps. I have zero auto synchronization, no auto updates, no online only maps. I have disabled some stock bloat and removed some of it with adb. Over data, I try to only use Opera Mini as it compresses websites. It helps, but how much depends on web sites. Sometimes 20%, other times nearly 70%. I use automatic level of website compression and highest picture compression. Now one disclaimer about compression, phone itself doesn't compress any websites it just sends website and user compression settings to Opera server and it sends back already compressed websites to phone, so that could be a privacy concern and if you use manual website compression levels some websites will break. Auto seems to be the best mode, but even then some websites can be broken as Opera Mini is somewhat worse at rendering websites than full Opera.
 
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I have an iphone X and AT&T says I can trade in my phone and pay $100 plus tax then $3/month for 30 months so I can get an iphone 12 which is $900 or so if I buy directly from Apple. I think Apple buyback iphone X at $250. So $250+$100 + $90 payment plan plus tax. Does AT&T really sell phone this cheap or I will see an increament in price in a next bill cycle? Business makes profit and that equation yields a loss. Anyone has an idea?
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Only usable if you have xfinity internet too.


me too lol.
Hi,
I'm full anti at&t so yeah xfinity internet to about 90.us for gigabyte
I cut the cord so all content come off the internet not t.v. subscription so a lot better.
iphone se free and since I don't use a lot of cell service which is verizon monthly cell is only 25.us
That is 40.us less than at&t cell.
 
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Father-in-law donated me a Samsung Galaxy j3 from at&t. Went to straight talk and got the $35 plan. Unlimited talk & text plus 10gb data.
 
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Father-in-law donated me a Samsung Galaxy j3 from at&t. Went to straight talk and got the $35 plan. Unlimited talk & text plus 10gb data.
Nice. With Straight Talk, Ting, Mint, et al., there's good value to be had for those that don't need/want an unlimited data plan.
 
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Never ever i have a plan without a phone for 25€ per month:

Internet Flatrate (did sometimes load 480GB in a Month) (15GB in the EU)
3 000 min (1000 EU wide)
500 sms (250 EU wide)

My Mom with a phone 30€ per month:
10GB (no EU roaming)
3000 min (no roaming)
200 sms (no roaming)

1 min phonecall in the EU it cost her 6,7 cents, 10 MB of datas 8,9 cents
 
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I will only buy a phone outright and get a sim only deal. In the UK they have got so greedy they are using 36month contracts now
 
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I used to think getting a phone with a plan was less painful than buying outright, in a way, that's still true. But when measured over time, I'm paying a fair bit more. Take the time I'd gotten the Samsung Fold 2 (prices quoted are in local currency, prices quoted are as accurate as I could remember):

Paid $2888 outright for the phone, plus bought a $10/mth SIM only plan (for 50GB/mth data). So, IF I were to use the phone for two years, total cost of phone + SIM plan is 2888 + 240 = $3128

Now, had I'd gotten the phone with an $88/mth plan, the phone would have 'entitled' me to buy the Fold 2 at about $1900 (or thereabout). So, 88x24 + 1900 = 2122 + 1900 = $4022

That's about $900 difference over a two year period, hence my preference to buy phones outright. Like the Flip 3 I'd recently gotten, paid outright for it, and got myself same 50GB/mth SIM only plan at $10/mth.

Basically, buying a phone with a plan seems cheaper in that the initial cash outlay isn't as painful as buying the phone outright, but a lot hinges on how fair/unfair one sees the plan to be I guess.
 
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