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Ok so I think i have finally digested all I need to know about VB .net and have started Java:)

But i was wondering if i could have a user interface like i can in vb with buttons and such, i just started it and i don't really have any online use for it.
 

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Thanks! This will help tonnes! Is C# fairly similar to Java?
 

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Eclipse is a great IDE, and you can give a try to Netbeans ( http://netbeans.org/ ) as another Java/C/php/whatelse.

Both of them are very powerful.

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Thanks! This will help tonnes! Is C# fairly similar to Java?

Very very similar to C# - Microsoft pays licence fees to Sun/Oracle for much of the design.

If you want to do VB style drag-drop creation of windows, buttons, etc. look up "Swing" user interface builder, NetBeans certainly features this, and I'm sure Eclipse too. Swing is the standard technology for desktop forms.
 
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Using either Netbeans and Eclipse, Netbeans seems more powerful for GUI design... obviously imho
 
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...No they don't.

You are right, I was misinformed :ohwell:

Gosling and co. have criticised C# for imitating Java, and Microsoft was involved in licensing Sun's JVM and Java, but not with respect to C#. Probably where the confusion comes from.
 
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Gonna give net-beans a try when i get home, looks interesting from what I've read.
 

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I worked in Netbeans for awhile, but I am so spoiled by the VS IDE that it was just not the same. lol
 
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I worked in Netbeans for awhile, but I am so spoiled by the VS IDE that it was just not the same. lol

That's what i was afraid was going to happen, now i regret not going with C# :[ Oh well i guess its next on the list of languages in between F# and C++ :laugh:
 

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So learn both at the same time. If you've got the concepts down all it is, is syntactical differences and different names for the API methods. (shrug)
 
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I's struggling with Java Tbh it just seems illogical compared to VB .net, and i have no use for it what so ever :[ Thinking of learning F# instead
 

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Why learn F#? Just for the fun of it? Any need for it?

VB and C# are so close that one could almost say the only difference between the two is the parsers for the compilers.
 
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But parsers ya mean {} right, oh and F# is just to be original really, not many people bother to learn it.
 

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About the only thing C# and Java have in common is similar syntax but in areas where it counts (delegates, code base, and binaries), they are completely different. VB and C# are the opposite: everything in common except syntax.

F# is a functional language--doesn't make any sense to me but that's probably just because of the way I process information mentally (I think in terms of objects).
 

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But parsers ya mean {} right, oh and F# is just to be original really, not many people bother to learn it.

By parsers I mean ...

C# .... MyMethod (int MyParameter)
VB .... MyMethod (MyParameter as int)

IMO, if you want to be original and stand out, write original code. W1zz stands out for writing GPU-Z, not for writing it in C#F++D--Q^3. :D
 
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