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#1
Okay guys, I'm stumped.

We got a net upgrade to 80/11 speeds from 21/0.9 which is great. My room gets about 30-40mbps and so does the rest of our house. The next door which we share wifi with gets about 5-15 which is fine, they don't do much except for the kid. Besides my issues with him his two consoles, an Xbox 360 and Xbox One screw with the entire network when he gets on. Let me explain.

One example is last night, when I was trying to download a game on my desktop and the other desktop, we can average about 3mb/s on EACH desktop and everything is fine. We can pause and close both downloads and everything is fine. We can watch videos, game, and the rest of the house and next door is fine until one of the two consoles comes online. We go from 3mb/s to 150kb/s download, buffering on videos and/or lower quality, and even to the point of people disconnecting on the network in the same house.

We only really have issues when one or both of the consoles come on and on the previous modem setup, I even went to limiting access to when the kid wasn't home, effectively banning the two Xboxs from the entire network and guess what, shit worked just fine. No issues, even on the horrid 21mbps we could all watch movies/netflix/youtube and play games just fine.

My question is do we just keep the Xboxs off? Is there a way around this? As much as I hate the kid I'm not trying to ban him off completely but we're paying the bill, and if we can't use it because of him well you get the point.

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They run off of the SSID buddy, yet when his consoles come on it actually hurts my part of the network. Again when he's off the entire network runs smoothly so it's not an issue with the layout, just how he connects on. Beforehand the second router wasn't on and they were off the modem. Same issues persisted until I banned him off.

I want it noted that the next door has three consoles, but the only ones causing the issues are in his room. One Xbox 360 is in the parent's room and that is the one that can be ran 24/7 and causes no issues to the network at all.

What do guys?
 
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Rename Wifi and hide the SSID.
 
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I'm not that mean, but that doesn't mean I'm not tempted to.
 
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Also think of what they could be looking up using your shared wifi that would trace back to you. I wouldnt want that.
 
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Oh I know what the kid looks up, I'm the one who had to clean his grandpa's laptop after the kid used it and busted the power jack.

I'll try the QoS.
 
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You should also be able to Schedule/restrict his Connection Times
somewhere in your Router settings
Tried that. The restricted hours is from 9pm to 3pm, but the router goes by military time and "the end must be higher than the start time" which is dumb as hell. I used MAC restricting which banned him off last night, which doing so made everything work again but I have to manually change it.
 

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IN the Router settings
Bind his MAC to fixed IP Address and he getst same ip address all the time
you can then create a firewall rule for the MAC/ip address with the restrictions you need such as bandwidth and connection permitted times
after this i'm out of friendly idea's /advice

@remixedcat is router knowledgeable she may be of assistance and
yes anyone else got any workable non homacidable idea's
 
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IN the Router settings
Bind his MAC to fixed IP Address and he getst same ip address all the time
you can then create a firewall rule for the MAC/ip address with the restrictions you need such as bandwidth and connection permitted times
after this i'm out of friendly idea's /advice

@remixedcat is router knowledgeable she may be of assistance and
yes anyone else got any workable non homacidable idea's
Uh... lemme see if I can do those settings. It's an old router with dd-wrt on it, so I might be able to pull something.
 

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Tried that. The restricted hours is from 9pm to 3pm, but the router goes by military time and "the end must be higher than the start time"
Did You try 2 time settings Restrictions

21:00 to 23:59
then
00:01 to 15:00 ?

Edit/merged post

Fun thing to do

Set up a second router that he can connect to ( But not connected to internet )
leave the rest to you ( like blocking his MAC on original router but not the Dummy you just set up for him
 
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Did You try 2 time settings Restrictions

21:00 to 23:59
then
00:01 to 15:00 ?

Edit/merged post

Fun thing to do

Set up a second router that he can connect to ( But not connected to internet )
leave the rest to you ( like blocking his MAC on original router but not the Dummy you just set up for him
I didn't think of that, let me try it.
 

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We go from 3mb/s to 150kb/s download, buffering on videos and/or lower quality, and even to the point of people disconnecting on the network in the same house.
Symptomatic of router overload. It's being asked to route more packets than it can handle so packets get sent to null.
 
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Symptomatic of router overload. It's being asked to route more packets than it can handle so packets get sent to null.
So basically nothing I can do to fix?
 
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assign Bandwidth limits by MAC address (QOS)
I assign bandwith limits to all the consoles and devices of the children in my home. 15 MB down 3 MB up. PC gets a bit more (be careful to set BW limits to Steam DL, as it will run away with bandwidth if allowed to run on the "no limt" setting) ,but I found that when they download it just saturates the routers bandwidth. My Asus router also has some type of Xbox console optimization option ,which I don't enable ,but maybe it'll help if you .... on the off chance that you do. I also turn off all wireless 5 GHz and run solely on the 2.4 GHz channel. And I run only in wireless N mode. These steps seem to have reduced the amount of strain on the network from consoles and PC (of which there are many). I also create separate guest network just for the children.
 

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Not sure how online gaming on a console can use that much bandwidth, are you sure little bastard Johnny isn't streaming or downloading as well as just gaming on his xbox? I've noticed when using torrent streaming services that unless I limit the upload then it will quickly take all the bandwidth it can thus making the user experience for everyone else trying to do anything online quite horrible, but honestly online game play shouldnt require anything more than 3mbps d/1mbps u regardless of the game and that's being very generous.
 
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Not sure how online gaming on a console can use that much bandwidth, are you sure little bastard Johnny isn't streaming or downloading as well as just gaming on his xbox? I've noticed when using torrent streaming services that unless I limit the upload then it will quickly take all the bandwidth it can thus making the user experience for everyone else trying to do anything online quite horrible, but honestly online game play shouldnt require anything more than 3mbps d/1mbps u regardless of the game and that's being very generous.
I have no clue what the hell he's doing. Honestly as far as I care it makes everything bad if it's even turned on.
 
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You can see what is connected by SSID is there anything else apart from the consoles when he is using the net, cell phone, laptop, tv box etc? I can't see how the xbox's would bog down your connection unless he's using another device for torrents/streaming/ pr0n whatever...

Symptomatic of router overload. It's being asked to route more packets than it can handle so packets get sent to null.
Quite possibly this which would suggest some kind of p2p traffic where lots of sources are overloading the available resources of the router.
 
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Why are you paying for someone else's internet?
 
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You can see what is connected by SSID is there anything else apart from the consoles when he is using the net, cell phone, laptop, tv box etc? I can't see how the xbox's would bog down your connection unless he's using another device for torrents/streaming/ pr0n whatever...



Quite possibly this which would suggest some kind of p2p traffic where lots of sources are overloading the available resources of the router.
Whenever his stuff is on and unblocked, it bogs everything down. Block it or it logs off and everything thing works.

Why are you paying for someone else's internet?
I pay for the house I live in that is providing the service. Next door are good friends besides the kid to me. It's a weird situation but it works.

I get free room, I pay their bills, next door helps and are friends, they can use wifi. Their kid is causing issue.
 

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Not without getting a commercial router.
I don't think a commercial router is necessary. A better consumer grade router might be all that is needed. It sounds to me like he has an old router that just can't handle the connections generated by the kid next door.
 
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His stuff? you need to be looking at all the different device id's connected to the routers and not trusting him when he says he just games on his xbox, som,ething else is going on apart from online gaming

Or perhaps change the WiFi password and you connect any device they want connecting instead of giving them the password and free reign to use/abuse it as they see fit.
 
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