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Whether you think he's the best tech journalist out there or a bit nuts, his articles are usually interesting and he tells it like he thinks it is, without mincing his words. He's gone over the various models of Ivy Bridge and talked about their pros and cons in the article below.

Intel is launching their Ivy Bridge CPU family today with a lot of fanfare, and in many ways the chip deserves every bit. The technical brilliance is however destroyed by some foul marketing garbage and scary anti-user ‘features’.
Ivy Brige, also known as 3rd Generation Intel® Core™ Processor Family, with iSomethingMeaningless and seemingly random numbers and letters prefixed, suffixed, and haphazardly stuck in all over. All the current chips launched today are the same die, a 160mm^2 CPU made on a 22nm tri-gate process that no one in the industry can come close to matching. In total, there are 14 CPU SKUs, eight chipsets, again from one die, and five wireless radios for the silicon side. Wrap all this in purposefully confusing marketing, and you end up with Ivy Bridge.

Then, we have some classic Charlie ranting about Intel Insider and what a terrible thing it is and why it's best to avoid IB. Yes, it is crappy DRM and I'm with him on that, but SB had it too and it can just be ignored by not buying DRM infected content that relies on it:

That last one is Intel Insider, and it is a horrendous step backward for Ivy Bridge, and Sandy Bridge before it. Basically it spends power and time to encrypt everything on the system buses. It is useless work, lessened battery life, and the only reason it is there is to placate the content MAFIAA.

To make matters worse, Intel Insider is not user controllable, it is only controllable by unnamed remote 3rd parties who can now do things to your system that Intel won’t list. Seriously, think about the security implications, you are giving an unknown list of entities that are proven to be hostile to users the right to silently deny you use of your computer. They can potentially put things on your PC, take things off, and do so in a way that you can’t control, avoid, or worst of all detect. This ‘technology’ is actively harmful to the owner, and enough of an issue that I suggest that you avoid Ivy Bridge until it is not just fully documented, but user controllable. Scary on a whole new level.

Scary on a whole new level? Not when SB has had it for the last year. It's perhaps just "scary" at the most.

Read the whole rant: Intel launches Ivy Bridge amid crushing marketing buzzwords
 

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not sure if trolling .... or retarded ...
 

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What me, trolling or retarded? Neither. You?
 

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What me, trolling or retarded? Neither. You?

Having read your post I'd imagine he means Charlie.

CD Must've taken a lot of coke that morning to get so paranoid. Yes, it's not very open but still, it's not like Skynet's taking control.
 

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Having read your post I'd imagine he means Charlie.
Hope so, that'd be great. :)

CD Must've taken a lot of coke that morning to get so paranoid. Yes, it's not very open but still, it's not like Skynet's taking control.

Yes, he's certainly on something. I find that he tends to pick up on issues quite well, but has a habit of coming to wildly wrong concusions. Just looks delusional half the time. :laugh:
 

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CD is a idiot but I was implying both because qubit did his selective copy and paste again ...
 

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CD is a idiot but I was implying both because qubit did his selective copy and paste again ...

Yes, I thought you were having a pop at me. :wtf: Never mind, lol.

Mind you, unless I pasted the whole article, it's a bit hard not to be "selective", isn't it? ;) Charlie D can be good entertainment in a facepalm sort of way, so I thought I'd share this article and that bit about Intel Insider was kinda funny.
 

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Yes, I thought you were having a pop at me. :wtf: Never mind, lol.

Mind you, unless I pasted the whole article, it's a bit hard not to be "selective", isn't it? ;) Charlie D can be good entertainment in a facepalm sort of way, so I thought I'd share this article and that bit about Intel Insider was kinda funny.

It was unfunny ... I need a aspirin after reading that drivel
 

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Ya meth makes one way more paranoid overall mainly due to the lack of sleep and the seriously messed up and things that does to one's consciousness. I speak from plenty of experience with both. Not something I'm proud of, but it's a fact.

Anyway back on topic even though that topic involves CD.
 
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Remember Pentuim chips and the flap about the CPU Identifier? Big brother could look up your rectum with a microscope, or so it seemed.

With MAC addresses and IP providor able to look at all incoming and outgoing traffic, I think there's worse things to worry about. That and your XBox Kinect spying on you.
 

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Yay OneMoar comes to crap in yet another thread :banghead:
 

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remember pentuim chips and the flap about the cpu identifier? Big brother could look up your rectum with a microscope, or so it seemed.

With mac addresses and ip providor able to look at all incoming and outgoing traffic, i think there's worse things to worry about. That and your xbox kinect spying on you.

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Yay OneMoar comes to crap in yet another thread :banghead:

I honestly can't see the reason why qubit would quote charlie into this to begin with. The subject of security etc is interesting but why start it like that?
 

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I honestly can't see the reason why qubit would quote charlie into this to begin with. The subject of security etc is interesting but why start it like that?

I pretty much summed it up in the OP: Charlie can make for an interesting read, so I thought I'd share. I do find those rants funny, especially his OTT conclusion of Intel Insider, lol. And at other times, he can be spot on, including things such as the feature for using an SSD as cache for a HDD, for example.

Not everybody will like the article, but then that's true for anything.
 

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I honestly can't see the reason why qubit would quote charlie into this to begin with. The subject of security etc is interesting but why start it like that?

because he loves to use "sensationalism"
he likes to pretend hes a reporter ... disgusting something I have no tolerance for re-posting is fine making a summery is fine but "selectively cutting and pasting" to grab more attention is annoying and poor sport ..

regardless this Charlie char looks like a grade A crackpot ...
 

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because he loves to use "sensationalism"
he likes to pretend hes a reporter ... disgusting something I have no tolerance for re-posting is fine making a summery is fine but "selectively cutting and pasting" to grab more attention is annoying and poor sport ..

regardless this Charlie char looks like a grade A crackpot ...

You're such a judgmental bugger aren't you? Why don't you stop trolling and crapping my thread, huh?

I've looked through your posts in the control panel and virtually all you ever do is slag people off with personal attacks instead of contributing something useful. Just go away and stop messing up my thread. :nutkick:
 

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You're such a judgmental bugger aren't you? Why don't you stop trolling and crapping my thread, huh?

I've looked through your posts in the control panel and virtually all you ever do is slag people off with personal attacks instead of contributing something useful. Just go away and stop messing up my thread. :nutkick:

stop crapping on the forums with you're bashing and we won't have a problem :shadedshu
I have yet to see ONE post from you that wasn't "toned" to "grab headlines"
you have said it you're self you do it just to get the attention ...
be-careful what you say I remember ... and ill make you remember ..
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stop crapping on the forums with you're bashing and we won't have a problem
I have yet to see ONE post from you that wasn't "toned" to "grab headlines"
you have said it you're self you do it just to get the attention ...
be-careful what you say I remember ... and ill make you remember ..
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So maybe a thought on why this article so derp?

because he does the something qubit does he "torque's" the `truth`
either because he does't understand the subject hes posting on
or because he enjoy's causing a stirr neither of which I have ANY tolerance for
crap like that is whats wrong with the world today ... reporting used to be about bringing the truth and the stuff the public needs to know ... not about bull shiting you're way though something because the "dots are connectable" or because of a personal vendetta
and aside from ... the retarded rant against intels security processor and some glaring errors in math its a generally ok review
 

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stop crapping on the forums with you're bashing and we won't have a problem :shadedshu
I have yet to see ONE post from you that wasn't "toned" to "grab headlines"
you have said it you're self you do it just to get the attention ...
be-careful what you say I remember ... and ill make you remember ..
TPU is not ETtonite ....

You really are something. You don't seem to realize that I don't have to justify myself to you. And you keep personally attacking me with your snidy, judgmental comments. JUST GO AWAY, YOU'RE NOT WELCOME HERE. Got it?

I've reported you.
 

OneMoar

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You really are something. You don't seem to realize that I don't have to justify myself to you. And you keep personally attacking me with your snidy, judgmental comments. JUST GO AWAY, YOU'RE NOT WELCOME HERE. Got it?

I've reported you.

good for you, you sound mad ... shame I don't care ...
I will continue to bust you every single time you pull this shit come hell or high water
 

AlienIsGOD

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you have to be the most annoying and immature member i have ever seen on this site OneMoar. Even in threads where you offer useful advice, you end up insulting the person at one point or another. Personal attacks against fellow TPUers shouldn't be allowed and by your statements you will continue to attack Qubit. for shame, i really hope you get banned from TPU as your idiotry isnt welcomed or needed here.
 
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