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Instead of dragging this thread further[/URL], I've decided to make a new one that will be more on topic.

So I have decided to update to Ivy Bridge. Combing through reviews, I've settled on the following components:

Intel Core i7 3770K
AsRock Z77 Extreme11
Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E

Rest of the hardware will remain as per my system specs; I am aware that my GPU is rather old but I can update that at a later date (read: next paycheck).

Any thoughts on this constellation? I would throw everything into a Corsair 540 case, which seems to barely accept that Thermalright behemoth, clearance wise. Overclocking, intense gaming, benchmarking and crunching will be done. I'm open to suggestions, especially about CPU coolers. WC-Kits like the Corsair H are not an option, as well as custom loops. Not at this time, at least.
 
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i`ve decided upgrade to TeraScale 2
look: Amd radeon hd 5970
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hdd( when ssd came out to the market i`ll definitely get one.
 
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Uh, ok, good for you.
 

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Why not Haswell?
 

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Your current RAM, is it rated for 1.5 volts? SB, IB, and Haswell systems only work with 1.5 volt rated RAM IIRC
 

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maybe bcs not every Haswell is just plug in and run and it's stable?
But every Haswell processor is plug and play. Every processor in existence is plug and play and they are all stable.
If a processor isnt stable from the word go then it needs RMA'ing
 
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Personally, I don't see a problem with opting for the 3770k over the 4770k. Ivy Bridge is a better OC'er, is only 10% slower than Hawell, and Intel is not going the make another socket 1150 CPU that would be worth upgrading to from either the 47770k or the 3770k, just like they didn't with the 2600k and 3770k.
 
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#10
Instead of dragging this thread further[/URL], I've decided to make a new one that will be more on topic.

So I have decided to update to Ivy Bridge. Combing through reviews, I've settled on the following components:

Intel Core i7 3770K
AsRock Z77 Extreme11
Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E

Rest of the hardware will remain as per my system specs; I am aware that my GPU is rather old but I can update that at a later date (read: next paycheck).

Any thoughts on this constellation? I would throw everything into a Corsair 540 case, which seems to barely accept that Thermalright behemoth, clearance wise. Overclocking, intense gaming, benchmarking and crunching will be done. I'm open to suggestions, especially about CPU coolers. WC-Kits like the Corsair H are not an option, as well as custom loops. Not at this time, at least.
you could have kept the Megahalems its a pretty good heatsink or go for the HR-02 Macho Rev.A (its what i use on my Xeon E3-1275v2) from review to review the Macho is not far from the SA SB-E and you can also make it work with dual fan setup or like i do (CF: your PC ATM thread) or even switch the TY-147 for the TY-143 2500rpm of the SA SB-E extreme :roll:

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as for the mobo good choice i have a Z77 Extreme 4 and its pretty flawless atm (if we except the paper thin pcb of the Ex 4 )
 

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Personally, I don't see a problem with opting for the 3770k over the 4770k. Ivy Bridge is a better OC'er, is only 10% slower than Hawell, and Intel is not going the make another socket 1150 CPU that would be worth upgrading to from either the 47770k or the 3770k, just like they didn't with the 2600k and 3770k.
Personally I'd rather have a 2700K than any other i7. But that's just me.
 
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Haswell over Ivy. If for no other reason just incase they keep the socket and there is more to follow and higher ram speeds. As far as cooling get the H100i
 
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Haswell over Ivy. If for no other reason just incase they keep the socket and there is more to follow and higher ram speeds. As far as cooling get the H100i
he wrote no AIO WC ;) also the Z77 chipset handle 2800+ for ram (OC rate from ASRock in fact) isn't that enough atm?

also Ivy eat less watts than what he has actually (i went also from a Bloomfield to a Ivy) and Haswell are prone to overheat afaik (harder to cool by any mean and seen on some review +magazines)

also SA SB-E Extreme is more efficient than a H100i (same cost o_O) but more noisy so the SA SB-E classic should be good and cheaper :)
 
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But every Haswell processor is plug and play. Every processor in existence is plug and play and they are all stable.
If a processor isnt stable from the word go then it needs RMA'ing
well i haven't RMA'et mine and since day one i have battled with it to get stable, and i asked caseking but they never had an issues and i don't wanna buy like 50euro's or something to send it back so i never did it, but mostly i think it's my OS that needs a reinstallation.
 
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Your current RAM, is it rated for 1.5 volts? SB, IB, and Haswell systems only work with 1.5 volt rated RAM IIRC

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Personally I'd rather have a 2700K than any other i7. But that's just me.
Why you think I'm still running a 2600k if I can afford a GTX 780ti. Overall, it's the best generation of the past 3 IMHO.
 
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Your current RAM, is it rated for 1.5 volts? SB, IB, and Haswell systems only work with 1.5 volt rated RAM IIRC
<- I've got 1.65v ram in my system... AFAIK, that restriction was only for SB?

After reading how much more complicated it is to OC Haswell, I'd probably go with a 3770k myself.
 
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Why not Haswell?
Been mentioned. The golden middle, so to speak. Also, moar availability.

Your current RAM, is it rated for 1.5 volts? SB, IB, and Haswell systems only work with 1.5 volt rated RAM IIRC
Yes. Its stated at 1.65V but is also rated for 1.5. No issue there.

you could have kept the Megahalems its a pretty good heatsink or go for the HR-02 Macho Rev.A (its what i use on my Xeon E3-1275v2) from review to review the Macho is not far from the SA SB-E and you can also make it work with dual fan setup or like i do (CF: your PC ATM thread) or even switch the TY-147 for the TY-143 2500rpm of the SA SB-E extreme :roll:

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as for the mobo good choice i have a Z77 Extreme 4 and its pretty flawless atm (if we except the paper thin pcb of the Ex 4 )
I don't think the Megahalems comes close to that Thermalright thing.

I want to make sure you see this post MRCL

Why you think I'm still running a 2600k if I can afford a GTX 780ti. Overall, it's the best generation of the past 3 IMHO.
I did ;) Well as you know the 2600K was my initial target, however lack of availability and high price drove me away.

<- I've got 1.65v ram in my system... AFAIK, that restriction was only for SB?

After reading how much more complicated it is to OC Haswell, I'd probably go with a 3770k myself.
I've read on numerous sites that 1.65 is not a problem, its even under warranty.
 
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I don't think the Megahalems comes close to that Thermalright thing.
i didn't meant that but a i7-3770K do not heat too much even a good OC one, so the middle between a megahalems and a SA SB-E would be the HR-02 Macho Rev.A, cost versus perf also, but if you don't mind the price then go for the SA SB-E (the Macho is also easier to fit in a case, im a bad exemple due to my In Win GR one being a huge case :rolleyes: )
 
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Preference, yes. I quite like having lots of headroom, temperature wise. I always opted for top tier coolers ever since I melted that AMD chip 10 years ago.

Well seems like the setup I picked is a decent one. I may have to upgrade the PSU, too. Cooler Master V series seems rather nice. I like having headroom there, too. And my current one is old, and in almost 24/7 use since a few years. Never hurts to have a healthy, capable PSU.
 
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#20
well it's basically the same setup as i have atm (except for GPU unless by a strike of luck you find a 2nd XLR8 :) ) but with a unlocked CPU and 8gb ram more (E3-1275v2 is a i7-3770k for frequencies without the unlocked multi) and i can say it's a strong one since mine can handle anything i throw at it (actual games crunching and other)
 
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Well lol the 16GB I threw at it were due to Minecraft :laugh: Before that I had four GB. You can never have too much RAM.
 
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#22
i am waiting on Steg/TopD to restock G.Skill ARES 2133 atm :D indeed you never have too much ram
 
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#23
Personally, I don't see a problem with opting for the 3770k over the 4770k. Ivy Bridge is a better OC'er, is only 10% slower than Hawell, and Intel is not going the make another socket 1150 CPU that would be worth upgrading to from either the 47770k or the 3770k, just like they didn't with the 2600k and 3770k.
http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1164

Its less than 10% dude.

No difference really between Haswell and Ivy, Ivy overclocks better, cheaper motherboards. Get a pre binned i7 3770k. The newer batch i7 3770k seem to suck at OC from my experience (2 Costa Ricas at Microcenter). If you can get a binned i7 2600/2700k or 3770k that can do 5.0ghz from a forum member thats the way to go. Then get a Z77x board of your choice. Nice thing about ivy over sandy is you get pcie3.0.


Its just too hard to find a good 4770k from what I've read. Its rare to get over 4.4.
 
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#24
Get a pre binned i7 3770k.
What do you mean by that? Also, how would one go about to check wether its old or new batch? Is that sort of like with the E0/C0 steppings of the old C2D CPUs?
 
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#25
By that I mean find someone elses used CPU that has been proven to overclock well. A lot of people jumped to Haswell here and on Hardforum and other places. Check into Sb/ivy people moving to haswell. If you buy a new 3770k, well the last few Ivy I have bought have sucked. I live near a MC so I can flip em if they suck.

Try to get someone elses gold chip.

The other alternative is Ivy Bridge E and a cheap x79 like the AsRock one.