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Japan Will Release Radioactive Fukushima Water Into The Ocean, And Why That’s O.K.

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And here I thought Tritium was just the fuel source for Doc Ock's fusion reactor in Spiderman 2. Guess you do learn something new every day...
 
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The radiation dose from one quart of this water is equal to four bananas or a family-sized bag of potato chips.

I think the potato chips are more dangerous to your health.
 

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Should send Japanese Del Boy and Rodney down there. They'll open up a new Peckham spring in no time.
 
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I had no idea about tritium. Turns out it's so safe that it's just not possible to get poisoned by it.


Cue the alarmist users that didn't actually read the article in 3, 2, 1... :roll:

Seems the only thing that makes any of this alarming is the scary Fukushima name itself.

As for the critics, it's best to have someone playing devil's advocate but some groups like Greenpeace took the role a little too to heart. Burn coal and they rake you over those same coals. Switch to nuclear and they protest spent fuel storage. Then they'll burn you at the stake for not magically containing 100% of the incident instantly after the accident. Devise a plan for controlled release that makes the best of a bad situation, and they'll lambast you for not "just" expanding the storage tanks, and if you do that they'll just protest the impact to the surrounding land area. May as well just don grass skirts and go live in the forest, except then GP would raise hell about the damage caused to the forest floor-level habitat.

As for tritium I'd imagine they wouldn't be using it for night sights on guns and whatnot if it behaved like radium. If you broke open a vial of tritium and licked it you might be in trouble, but don't see the problem here.
 
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I had no idea about tritium.

fun fact, as a watch guy Tritium is used a lot for the lume, its what gives it "glow" at night.

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whatnot if it behaved like radium
Tritium emits beta radiation, which basically cannot penetrate your skin, or a piece of cardboard, or a few feet of water. The problem like with all beta emitters is if they get inside your body, they can do damage to cells and organs (= chance of cancer)

Given how much it will be diluted it'll be a complete non-issue, that's the most important point, which the article at Forbes seems to miss
 
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I'll tell you why it doesn't matter. The ocean is so polluted it isn't going to make a difference anyways. They just found a half a million barrels of toxic Pcb infused waste in leaking barrels off the coast of California. Mexico and a lot of other countries put raw sewage out in the ocean, Sunken russian subs with reactors rotting, Millions of tons of diesel fuel spilled in the arctic circle earlier this year. Our drinking water all has shit in it. At least the U.S. does. I could go on and on and that is the stuff we know about. This is nothing.
 
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Tritium emits beta radiation, which basically cannot penetrate your skin, or a piece of cardboard, or a few feet of water. The problem like with all beta emitters is if they get inside your body, they can do damage to cells and organs (= chance of cancer)

Given how much it will be diluted it'll be a complete non-issue, that's the most important point, which the article at Forbes seems to miss

To be fair I think he mentioned that drinking 1 metric ton is equivalent to the max annual allowable dose, although a lot of other things also don't exceed that limit. He is a proponent of and insider in nuclear energy though, usually such experts are naturally optimistic. But it is that it's supposedly in line with international nuclear safety standards, so.

The only ones that I can see making a huge deal about it is Global Times and other Chinese outlets threatening to sue Japan (and claiming that the Koreans are of the same mindset, whether Korea actually is I can't tell). I can see why local fisheries would be concerned, but I wonder how many people are aware that Global Times is pretty much the English version of People's Daily.
 
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Quick, someone start making computer chips out of tritium!
 

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And here I thought Tritium was just the fuel source for Doc Ock's fusion reactor in Spiderman 2. Guess you do learn something new every day...

You're wrong dude: tritium is obviously the material of which Stargate SG1's iris is made of.
 
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I suppose my only question would be how do you separate tritium from the other types of radiation (I know nuclear disasters have to emit more than one type otherwise they would not be dangerous at all)... so how do they know it's all tritium as they begin releasing it in mass, are they testing 1 square foot sample sizes before releasing it into the water? or just assuming its all tritium because of the area its found in... but again how do they know small parts of that aren't contaminated... meh I suppose it doesn't matter either way honestly. with climate change we are all doomed within 30 years easy anyway lol
 
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I can see why local fisheries would be concerned
And that explains China's concern, their ghost fleets might also be affected. :rolleyes:
Not that they will admit they are raping the seas globally.
 
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I suppose my only question would be how do you separate tritium from the other types of radiation (I know nuclear disasters have to emit more than one type otherwise they would not be dangerous at all)... so how do they know it's all tritium as they begin releasing it in mass, are they testing 1 square foot sample sizes before releasing it into the water? or just assuming its all tritium because of the area its found in... but again how do they know small parts of that aren't contaminated... meh I suppose it doesn't matter either way honestly. with climate change we are all doomed within 30 years easy anyway lol
They are assuming it's Tritium because it's underwent treatment that removes pretty much everything else.
 
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Given how much it will be diluted it'll be a complete non-issue, that's the most important point, which the article at Forbes seems to miss
Quite correct. Additionally, Tritium is nearly completely neutralized by the salt in ocean water as the salts provide a natural barrier to any beta emissions coming from the Tritium. The ocean is a perfect place for disposal of such a material. No risk to life of any kind, even ocean life.
 
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Quite correct. Additionally, Tritium is nearly completely neutralized by the salt in ocean water as the salts provide a natural barrier to any beta emissions coming from the Tritium. The ocean is a perfect place for disposal of such a material. No risk to life of any kind, even ocean life.
WoW. Just wondering, from this text - what is your degree you mastered?
 

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This is why science gets a bad rap. A pro-nuclear guy rubbishes concerns about Tritiumn because he's a 'nuclear guy'.

Here'a another 'nuclear guy's take.


Of note:

Tritium binds with organic matter to form organically bound tritium (OBT) with long residence times in tissues and organs making it more radiotoxic than tritiated water (HTO). Epidemiology studies indicate increases in cancers and congenital malformations near nuclear facilities. It is recommended that nuclear operators and scientists should be properly informed about tritium’s hazards; that tritium’s safety factors should be strengthened; and that a hazard scheme for common radionuclides be established.

EDIT: I'm also pro-nuclear.
 
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And here I thought Tritium was just the fuel source for Doc Ock's fusion reactor in Spiderman 2. Guess you do learn something new every day...
 
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I honestly thought they have been doing this slow release for years now. They pumped salt water on those cores for a long time.. pretty much until the fuel escaped did they not? I haven't followed for a few years now.
 
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WoW. Just wondering, from this text - what is your degree you mastered?
I respect anyone who presupposes they understand positron emission since it takes just the right mind set to miss it entirely.
 
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WoW. Just wondering, from this text - what is your degree you mastered?
The older you get the more knowledge you can collect. and FYI, I have a PHD in BS, and a BS in TRL.
 
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The older you get the more knowledge you can collect. and FYI, I have a PHD in BS, and a BS in TRL.
Is that tritium research laboratory or telecommunications research laboratory?

You know, these cartoons actually depict quite a real perspective with respect to medical sciences the things these agents can do. My grandfather had a chronic disease. These agents on the other hand are so powerful, they can wipe clean stage 4 diseases. That is almost going back in time level science fiction...

I know you have heard, or might have heard, "gamma-knife" since some of you are from the US. These agents can go and say, "F. gamma knife" and stand correct about it. That is how powerful they are, no exaggeration. Superhero comics level even.

It is sad that we Turks are having such radionuclide shortages. If only the Japanese would be so kind to send it to us, really... all your radionuclides are belong to us.

Uncle Ben was right all along,
  • "With great power, comes a lot of Tritium!"
 
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This is why science gets a bad rap. A pro-nuclear guy rubbishes concerns about Tritiumn because he's a 'nuclear guy'.

Here'a another 'nuclear guy's take.


Of note:



EDIT: I'm also pro-nuclear.
It's the dillution rate here that makes the difference really. Tritium can be dangerous in the right ppm quantity I'm sure.
 
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