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so it's basically become an archive site unless they can find someone good to replace OklahomaWolf.
It is not just about finding someone who knows electronics in general and PSUs in particular. One must have access to the necessary test equipment (scope, PS analyzer, quality volt and dB meters, hot-box, etc), plus the know-how to set-up and use that equipment, and know how to interpret the results. Then they must be able to write up the analysis/report without a bunch of misspellings, grammar errors and of course, without any technical inaccuracies. If the report is full of errors, it will not look professional and it will not be taken seriously.

I used to do a bunch of technical writing. It is always important to "know your audience". But it can be a real challenge to write technical papers when your audience goes from the total newby all the way up to highly educated, highly trained, highly experienced professionals. You don't want to write over the heads of the newbies, but sound totally condescending to the pros (that said, pros need to be aware the writing is not just for them - many seem to forget that! :().

Lastly, and this is often the most challenging, the testing and analysis must be free of personal biases. For example, should a PSU be down-rated because it includes a BERG connector for internal floppy drives? Should a PSU be down-rated because it is hard-wired even though it is not marketed as modular?

In other words, the qualifications and job requirements are pretty stiff.

Sadly, I have seen many reviews that are little more than a re-listing of the manufacturer's published specs. They don't test under a variety of loads, they don't test for ripple, or hold-up times or under rated ambient conditions and more.

I guess this is why it is important to read as many reviews as you can find, and not depend on just one.

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Side gripe 1 - One complaint I have with just about all review sites is they never come back in a couple years to retest the products to see how they have held up after a couple years use.

Side gripe 2 - It would be good if the reviewer could buy the products "off-the-shelf" from Amazon, Best Buy or Newegg just like normal consumers do. But often the test units are provided directly by the maker. These are not supposed to be "cherry-picked" units, or units that have been "tweaked" to shine in specific tests. But there's no way the reviewer can tell. Buying off the shelf eliminates even the appearance of impropriety. But of course, buying test units takes money. And I personally will not pay a site to read their reviews. Oh well.
 

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It is not just about finding someone who knows electronics in general and PSUs in particular. One must have access to the necessary test equipment (scope, PS analyzer, quality volt and dB meters, hot-box, etc), plus the know-how to set-up and use that equipment, and know how to interpret the results. Then they must be able to write up the analysis/report without a bunch of misspellings, grammar errors and of course, without any technical inaccuracies. If the report is full of errors, it will not look professional and it will not be taken seriously.

I used to do a bunch of technical writing. It is always important to "know your audience". But it can be a real challenge to write technical papers when your audience goes from the total newby all the way up to highly educated, highly trained, highly experienced professionals. You don't want to write over the heads of the newbies, but sound totally condescending to the pros (that said, pros need to be aware the writing is not just for them - many seem to forget that! :().

Lastly, and this is often the most challenging, the testing and analysis must be free of personal biases. For example, should a PSU be down-rated because it includes a BERG connector for internal floppy drives? Should a PSU be down-rated because it is hard-wired even though it is not marketed as modular?

In other words, the qualifications and job requirements are pretty stiff.

Sadly, I have seen many reviews that are little more than a re-listing of the manufacturer's published specs. They don't test under a variety of loads, they don't test for ripple, or hold-up times or under rated ambient conditions and more.

I guess this is why it is important to read as many reviews as you can find, and not depend on just one.

*****

Side gripe 1 - One complaint I have with just about all review sites is they never come back in a couple years to retest the products to see how they have held up after a couple years use.

Side gripe 2 - It would be good if the reviewer could buy the products "off-the-shelf" from Amazon, Best Buy or Newegg just like normal consumers do. But often the test units are provided directly by the maker. These are not supposed to be "cherry-picked" units, or units that have been "tweaked" to shine in specific tests. But there's no way the reviewer can tell. Buying off the shelf eliminates even the appearance of impropriety. But of course, buying test units takes money. And I personally will not pay a site to read their reviews. Oh well.

They are production models typically.
 
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Side gripe 1 - One complaint I have with just about all review sites is they never come back in a couple years to retest the products to see how they have held up after a couple years use.

Side gripe 2 - It would be good if the reviewer could buy the products "off-the-shelf" from Amazon, Best Buy or Newegg just like normal consumers do. But often the test units are provided directly by the maker. These are not supposed to be "cherry-picked" units, or units that have been "tweaked" to shine in specific tests. But there's no way the reviewer can tell. Buying off the shelf eliminates even the appearance of impropriety. But of course, buying test units takes money. And I personally will not pay a site to read their reviews. Oh well.

Gripe 1 - It's a money thing as review sites run by a small staff sell their hardware to make ends meet or raffle them off to help increase traffic. In some of his reviews (and forum posts) OklahomaWolf mentioned previous PSU he still used including a corsair CX600 that he used in one of mining rigs that was still going strong after several years with only needing a fan replacement.

Gripe 2 - Some brands like Seasonic send review samples directly from amazon/newegg. Some site like HardOCP buy the products themsleves but over all it becomes a money issue.
 
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I'm sure there are a few that OklahomaWolf finished before retiring still waiting to be released, but what happens after that? Does the site have someone else lined up to do PSU reviews?

Actually, all of the reviews Jeremy wrote have already been posted. Tazz has the equipment and a stock pile of review units to start cranking out reviews. But first he has to get the server migration and move to Wordpress done.

The old site used php-Nuke, which is dated. Wordpress is current so it's easier to keep the back end up to date. So part of the server migration includes a Wordpress migration.
 
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They are production models typically.
That's what the manufacturers claim. And they may be. But if it comes directly from the maker, can anyone be sure? Manufacturers rigging review samples to taint test results is not unheard of.
Gripe 1 - It's a money thing
Of course. But it is also a logistics thing - how does a review site put into real-world use and then track that usage over an extended period of time? It would be a difficult and expensive challenge. I wasn't blaming anyone - just pointing out consumers learning how a product may hold up over the "expected" life of the product is almost impossible.

Some retailers track RMAs but most don't categorize by reason. It could have been the wrong size or color.
 
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Hello, what happens with jonnyGuru's site?
Where have the reviews gone for such a long period?
I can open the random review using the Internet cache, but on the site I see "Oops! That page can not be found."
https://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=489
https://web.archive.org/web/2017090.../modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=489
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Some retailers track RMAs but most don't categorize by reason. It could have been the wrong size or color.

I so miss the behardware site's RMA data ... despite 3 years of HS French, I haven't retained enough of a language understanding to ask why they stopped publishing this. Was no worry about your size / color concerns with their data as only RMAs for products returned after 6 to 12 months of usage were reported. In addition the statistics by brand req'd a minimum sample of 500 pieces sold, those by models on a minimum sample of 100 pieces sold.,,, and when the sample is smaller than 200 pieces, the designation is in italics.
 

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Hello, what happens with jonnyGuru's site?
Where have the reviews gone for such a long period?
I can open the random review using the Internet cache, but on the site I see "Oops! That page can not be found."
https://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=489
https://web.archive.org/web/2017090.../modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=489
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still a lot of reviews missing
 
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still a lot of reviews missing
It's been 3 months since I've written in this thread that this situation is totally unprofessional and was mocked by the likes of you.
And here we are. 2019. Website content vanishing during "DNS transition".
So what do you think now?
 
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So what do you think now?
I think that opinion now is just as naive as when mentioned in post #19. None of us have a clue about any of the circumstances involving the site, their host, the admins and owners or their personal lives. We know that some have retired from the site, others have changed roles. All have outside lives, most likely other jobs, and perhaps families.

Are you a paying subscriber on a service contract? Have you not received what you paid for? Did JG make a promise to you then break it? Or are you someone "entitled", sticking your hand out for more, more and more even though what you got was already free? :(

Reminds me of the kid who threw a tantrum because he was given, for free, a blue bike but wanted a red one.

Would it have been nice to get daily updates? Sure. But besides that taking someone's time, likely volunteer time to do so, we are not entitled to that either.

Me? I'm just grateful to see it come back alive and hope them well.


Edit comment: fixed typos.
 
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@Oklahoma Wolf Can you try to review the Corsair AX850 850 watt titanium soon? I just bought this, its a new PSU that just released from Corsair, I want to know I made a good buy at $199. Was going to roll Seasonic, but i know Corsair is doing some amazing things on PSU front last couple years so I thought I'd try...
 
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The site has been down for almost two weeks, hopefully everything is ok with Taz but sucks to lose a great community of knowledge.
 

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The site has been down for almost two weeks, hopefully everything is ok with Taz but sucks to lose a great community of knowledge.

I used to read PSU reviews all the time, I found it all fascinating. I haven't looked at it almost a year or more, since my setup is complete I sort of lost interest. That does make me sad though, I loved that site, hope everything is alright.
 

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I used to read PSU reviews all the time, I found it all fascinating. I haven't looked at it almost a year or more, since my setup is complete I sort of lost interest. That does make me sad though, I loved that site, hope everything is alright.

They barely did reviews since OklahomaWolf stopped doing them. Last review was in like 2019. I don't expect the site to come back honestly. There were some decent discussions occasionally, but on the whole it was a dying site.
 

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I only went there a few times after Oklahomawolf stopped doing reviews and they moved the site to the new design. They never got all the old content back up as far as I could tell. Most of the old reviews were gone and no good new content was ever added.
 

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They barely did reviews since OklahomaWolf stopped doing them. Last review was in like 2019. I don't expect the site to come back honestly. There were some decent discussions occasionally, but on the whole it was a dying site.


Super niche website so it was to be expected. At least TPU has a reviewer who does hot testing, etc and good reviews of PSU's. I just read one last week on TPU.
 
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Johnny Gerow has been gone from the site for some time, and now works for Corsair.

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Johnny Gerow has been gone from the site for some time, and now works for Corsair.

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ye, we are aware of that.

also here is a link to TPU review of PSU's... @crmaris keep up the good work!!! review my EVGA GD 700w Gold someday!!! this PSU here

 

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It sucks, every PSU that is available to me right now has a review on that site, while other guys don't have certain PSU's listed for review.

Its a real shame.
 

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It sucks, every PSU that is available to me right now has a review on that site, while other guys don't have certain PSU's listed for review.

Its a real shame.

part of that is due to covid, I know @crmaris mentioned before having trouble getting hands on review samples. hopefully that picks up in the coming years, I enjoy reading about detailed PSU reviews. not sure why, just weird I guess LOL
 

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part of that is due to covid, I know @crmaris mentioned before having trouble getting hands on review samples. hopefully that picks up in the coming years, I enjoy reading about detailed PSU reviews. not sure why, just weird I guess LOL
Its not weird buddy.. Its pretty cool stuff to be honest :D

Its been a week since I started and I still cant make up my mind :rolleyes:
 
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I only went there a few times after Oklahomawolf stopped doing reviews and they moved the site to the new design. They never got all the old content back up as far as I could tell. Most of the old reviews were gone and no good new content was ever added.
I'd just browse the site in wayback machine at this point.
 
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