Just Cause 4 is a mess.

[Vario]

Here's an interior shot with my settings at the highest.
Very 90s.
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Are you playing Syphon Filter?

 

[jboydgolfer]

This is the curse of the high-speed Internet age. There was a time, when a developer released their game & that was it, if it sucked ,they lost a lot of money. Nowadays it's almost common for developers to release 10+ gigabyte patches, which means they can announce an IP ,work on it until it's quasi-playable, and then release it while making boatloads of cash ,and fix it over the next six months in the form of "updates". Sadly, it's what gamers asked for, by buying into the pre-order scheme, every person who's ever preordered a game ,has fed this giant "snowball" of crap games ,that slowly gains momentum ,and size the further down the hill it rolls , until you have what we are at now, which is a situation where it's entirely "par for the course", for developers to release a game that is 60% (or less) finished, sell it at premium cost, and they have plenty of time to fix it while gamers put up with it ,because they've already paid for it (pre-order), & they'll almost certainly preorder the next release too. All while playing a buggy, not ready for release game, and defending it too, because to admit it sucks, is to admit they made a stupid decision in pre-ordering it, and we all know there are plenty of people who will stand up for games like fallout 76 ,because they pre-ordered it ,and they don't want to admit they made a dumb decision. It's the same way confidence schemes work, it's just a different product, but the same principle, get a person to buy into a lie...get them invested enough, then it wont matter if they realize its a scheme, becasue they will have to admit they were gullible.

 

[neatfeatguy]

Here's an interior shot with my settings at the highest.
Very 90s.
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What Half-Life mod is that?

 

[arbiter]

JC3 was good game, 4 seems like half arsed attempt at one. Story was very weak and take out the "gotta capture all the area's" crap. The story is only like 3hours long if that.

 

[king of swag187]

Honestly, disappointed by this. JC2 was fun and I felt that after a few months, JC3 with it's DLC matched it or even beat it in some areas (multi-tether's!)
I'm still likely to buy down the line despite it missing CS-Source texture pack install, andd I'll deal with it.
It's just annoying to me that the majority of Developers build their games to the bare minimum for consoles and their terrible bottom barrel hardware (CPU's worse than the newest iPhone and a GPU that could have been something had it not been so cutdown)

 

[Splinterdog]

In the end, I couldn't tolerate the game any longer and patches notwithstanding, I went for a refund for only the second time in my 13 years with Steam. (the other one was Homefront: Revolution, which froze my PC solid and actually turned it off a couple of times.)
For me, the killer was not being able to rebind the movement keys. For vehicles I always use A and Z, forward and backward and the arrow keys for vehicle direction, but rebinding was not possible.
The same applied to the menus, load outs and map, which required so many bizarre key and mouse combinations, that these areas began to resemble puzzles in themselves.
Also, I was damned if I was going to download a third party key mapping program for something which should have been available in the game.
To a certain extent I could have lived with the crappy graphics, but later, on closer inspection, I found that so many aspects of the rendering were simply cobbled together, seemingly using MS Paint.
Big disappointment, all in all.

 

[king of swag187]

Thats one of my main hatred's about JC3, is that the key's are so insanely mapped you have to look up a YT guide on how to map keys
In the end, like most of the games I play I on PC, I just found the experience to be better with a PS4 controller

 

[Flogger23m]

In the end, I couldn't tolerate the game any longer and patches notwithstanding, I went for a refund for only the second time in my 13 years with Steam. (the other one was Homefront: Revolution, which froze my PC solid and actually turned it off a couple of times.)
For me, the killer was not being able to rebind the movement keys. For vehicles I always use A and Z, forward and backward and the arrow keys for vehicle direction, but rebinding was not possible.
The same applied to the menus, load outs and map, which required so many bizarre key and mouse combinations, that these areas began to resemble puzzles in themselves.
Also, I was damned if I was going to download a third party key mapping program for something which should have been available in the game.
To a certain extent I could have lived with the crappy graphics, but later, on closer inspection, I found that so many aspects of the rendering were simply cobbled together, seemingly using MS Paint.
Big disappointment, all in all.

Use a controller, it worked great in JC3. I can't imagine a keyboard is all that great in JC4 either. Someone else pointed this out, but Square seems to be pushing incomplete games out as of late. Deus Ex Mankind Divided was horribly buggy at launch. While mostly fixed now, it still feels like it drags on a bit much without progressing the story enough. Shadow of the Tomb Raider was vastly inferior to the last two games with bad pacing and gameplay issues. JC4 seems rushed both technically and gameplay wise. Likely going to end up the worst of the three.

Shame because I enjoyed these three series. Was looking forward to JC4. I'll likely give it a go but I'd hope in 6-8 months they revamp the game a lot outside of bug/graphic fixes.

 

[Whitestar]

It's also worth noting that the Square Enix forums are completely devoid of any JC4 content. There's not even a tech thread.

Heheh, you ain't kiddin'. I posted this over there.
So far not a beep, nothing! Picture crickets in a forest or tumbleweeds sweeping the streets of a deserted town with saloon doors and window shutters slamming in the wind.

Agree with just about anything in the OP. For me the most visually appalling (that's "appalling", not "appealing") things are:
- Shadow pop in
- Abysmal aliasing (Temporal is not an option because it introduces severe ghosting)
- Lakes and oceans, which actually looked amazing in JC3. Why are they so much worse now?!
- Flickering in certain conditions

And last but not least, a rant about vehicle handling. Oh my god! How is it possible – after 3 games with the same horrendous handling – that it's still just as bad as ever?!? I mean, how hard can it be to just emulate something like GTA4 or 5 in this department? There simply aren't enough facepalms to describe this. Ok, rant over.

The funny thing is that despite all these issues the game is actually pretty fun to play. Cheesy story, sure, but fun none the less. Shooting enemies and things is just more satisfying this time. And blowing stuff up of course.

Btw, I play in 1080p and upped the Hz (with vsync) to 85. That did wonders for the playability. Very smooth and responsive now. If I could just have proper AA, oceans from JC3 and WASD vehicle handling from GTA5 then I would be a happy camper.

 

[Splinterdog]

I also posted a new thread in the SE forum, but it never appeared. I think most people are probably taking their gripes to the Steam forums, to be honest.

 

[Whitestar]

Anyone tested this?
https://square-enix-games.com/en_US/news/just-cause-4-latest-patch-update

 

[Splinterdog]

Anyone tested this?
https://square-enix-games.com/en_US/news/just-cause-4-latest-patch-update

I would, but I refunded the game.
Here's my take on this mess.
Just Cause 4 Is Embarrassment To Gaming Industry

 

[jboydgolfer]

I know its off topic, but just cause 3 xxl is $12 on humble bundle if anyone doesnt have it.

Sorry for the distraction

 

[DR4G00N]

I'm not planning on buying JC4, just looks like JC3 V2.
IMO JC2 was the peak of the series, it was fun to play solo or multiplayer, looked good and ran very well. JC3 was pretty meh to me and I stopped playing it even before I got the wingsuit.

 

[Flogger23m]

I would, but I refunded the game.
Here's my take on this mess.
Just Cause 4 Is Embarrassment To Gaming Industry

Although I liked JC3 and I am sad to see JC4 turn out to be bad it is refreshing to see a game get knocked for it. FFXV has graphics that are even worse than JC4 and performance that is horrific as well as a host of other issues years after release but no one complained about that game. I hope going forward people treat all games like JC4 because it will be better for the industry long term. We'll see less JC4 & FFXV type of games released if people complain enough about it. That being said I think it has more to do with marketing than anything.

Going off topic, but if I told you this was a game from 2016 would you believe me?!

 

[Splinterdog]

JC4 borrowed the water from FFXV by the looks of it.

 

[Whitestar]

Well, color me amazed. It looks like they are actually going to fix most of the graphics issues. I had completely missed this one: https://square-enix-games.com/en_EU/news/just-cause-4-development-update.
We'll see how it turns out, but this is both surprising and positive.

 

[las]

None of those games have kept me busy for more than 30 mins.

I clearly remember Just Cause 2 CUDA water tho, looked very nice.

Maybe the best water I've seen in any game ...

 

[AsRock]

In the end, I couldn't tolerate the game any longer and patches notwithstanding, I went for a refund for only the second time in my 13 years with Steam. (the other one was Homefront: Revolution, which froze my PC solid and actually turned it off a couple of times.)
For me, the killer was not being able to rebind the movement keys. For vehicles I always use A and Z, forward and backward and the arrow keys for vehicle direction, but rebinding was not possible.
The same applied to the menus, load outs and map, which required so many bizarre key and mouse combinations, that these areas began to resemble puzzles in themselves.
Also, I was damned if I was going to download a third party key mapping program for something which should have been available in the game.
To a certain extent I could have lived with the crappy graphics, but later, on closer inspection, I found that so many aspects of the rendering were simply cobbled together, seemingly using MS Paint.
Big disappointment, all in all.

Not having bindable keys is always a killer for me, how ever most game company's car less of the lefty's of the world there fore decided the way around it was with a programmable keyboard many years ago.

i have always like JC2 more than the 3rd, as for the 4th i have not bothered as it just seems like they doing a worse job each time as if they are not learning any thing at all about what gamer's want

 

[Splinterdog]

Now that nearly 18 months have passed since I refunded and have now got the game free off Epic, here are some observations.
They fixed the issue of the key binding, so they can now be edited to the keys of our choice.
The menu system has been partially fixed, but quite why they insist on the backspace key for back, instead of escape is beyond me.
The graphics have been greatly improved and the river water now vaguely resembles what it should be.
The explosions and visuals are as stunning as ever and overall it's great fun stealing choppers, tanks and using the grapple for just about everything.
It's a shame they didn't stick to the liberating of towns, areas and provinces because it's a formula that worked. As it is, JC4 has rather hazy objectives that don't pull you in as much as JC3.
Free is free, but that doesn't make the game good. On the other hand, it's up there in my top five free games from Epic and I'll definitely keep playing it for stealing helicopters if nothing else.

 

[Flogger23m]

Grabbed it myself. Also refunded it way back when it was still an alpha, despite being for sale for months. Will try it. Sounds like it is playable, but still a below average game at best. But I suppose for free the price is right.