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Just ordered watercooling for my conroe. :-) TDX-775

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  1. W2hCYK New Member

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    Heres the part list for my watercooling. Tell me how I did with choices. :)

    http://xoxide.com/xoxide-external-radiator-kit.html External Radiator. :)
    http://xoxide.com/swiftech-mcp655.html Swiftech MCP655 Pump
    http://xoxide.com/danger-den-tdx-775.html DangerDen TDX-775 (ordered the last one in stock)
    http://xoxide.com/primoflex-12id-34od-uvblue.html 5ft of 1/2ID tubing. (Ordered the last 5ft also, i guess, haha)
    http://xoxide.com/5sncl1sy.html Tube clamps. ordered 8
    http://xoxide.com/primoice-nonconductive-fluid-uvblue.html Coolant liquid(Im guessing i fill the whole loop with this?)
    http://www.xoxide.com/12blfangr.html Some nice 120mm fan grills
    http://www.xoxide.com/enermax-marathon-enlobal-fan-120mm.html Frictionless 44cfm, 17dba fans.

    And some miscellanious vibration dampeners, rubber grommets, screws, arctic silver, ect.. All that good stuff..

    Please point out stuff I missed.

    I know I did miss a reservoir. I need a 3.5" one, not a full drive bay. Cant fit in a 5.25", as I use 3 of my 4 drive bays for a 120mm fan intake, and the 4th bay for my dvd burner.

    Im going to get x1900xt's when the price comes down, and I can find them for about $200 each. I'm going to wait to buy DX10 until about 6 months after its release so I can grab some nice cards up for cheap.

    How does this whole cooling loop and setup sound?
     
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    NICE :D

    that pump's awsome man! and the rest of the stuff looks good. I'll be interested to see how that waterblock compares to my Swiftech Apogee. The non-conductive liquid isn't quite as good as distilled water, with some glycol in it (thermal transfer wise) but if your worried about leaks, that stuff will be good for you.

    What reservior are you getting?

    I'm also gonna get an x1900xt soon, they've come down in price a lot! You planning on adding them to the water loop when you get them?

    Looks good mate :)
     
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  3. W2hCYK New Member

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    Yep! im going to add it to my loop, with dangerden heatsinks and watercooled mosfets

    I do worry about the fact of the distilled turning crappy and gooking up, and having the loop leak. I know to leave it sit for about 2 days to check for leaks, but thats not going to prevent any leak in the future. I got these clasps that you need to close with pliers, that hug the tubing to the attachments.

    Not sure about what res. im going to get. I may actually get something that I can mount to the inside of my case also. We'll see.

    How many feet of tubing should I need for a watercooling setup?

    btw. $297 for everything listed above. :)
     
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    NICE. 6 ft of hosing should get you by, but you should take estimates and multiply by 1.5 ;) . Shutoff clamps are GREAT idea as well - I have those plus quick-disconnects which have come in very handy - when swapping out stuff. I have a block on my CPU and one on MY GPU - they've been in and out a few times, plus the mobo.

    Leaks? I haven't seen a drop in two years. If you are good with the clamps (the nylon ones with teeth you got are great), you won't see any leaks.


    Here's what my disconnects look like - I have three of them Pump -> Disonnect -> CPU -> Disconnect -> GPU -> Disconnect -> Radiator.

    http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/pr...=USPlastic&category_name=6917&product_id=8429

    Here's the tubing shutoff clamps (and they work):

    http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/pr...=USPlastic&category_name=2659&product_id=2622

    You could also consider these high-flow quick disconnects that include shutoff:

    http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/pr...=USPlastic&category_name=6917&product_id=7497
     
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  5. W2hCYK New Member

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    the disconnects keep the water in the system when you pull them off the part, right? like if you took off your video card for instance. It would enable you to take out a section of your loop, and replace with another, if needed?

    Also, I bought 5ft, but I dont have a video card in the loop, is that going to be a problem?
     
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    Having too much tubing is never a problem!

    The disconnects with the automatic shutoff do that, but you'd stull have a few thimblefulls of fliud at the ends so always cover stuff with a towel before unhooking.... What I have are the non-shutoff type, but I put shutoff clamps (second link), so I can clamp the hose then disconnect. A little residual fliud will drip out, so again, I just cover everything with a towel.

    The hardest part from that site is actually figuring out exactly what to order - they had great customer service (at least two years ago!).
     
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    When I had water-cooling I would use the clamps you use for underground sprinkler systems. never got a leak with those ;) But I did get a couple of leaks with the nylon ones.
    I think Swiftech or ThermalTake make those, not sure...
     
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    Someone said I spent too much on this, and should have gotten phasechange for $100 more..

    opinions?
     
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    a phase change is way too big and loud ;P

    but i dont like your choice the to my mind comes a pretty system with small tubes yours a way too big
     
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    I dont care about tube size, bigger is better (more waterflow, and more water in the block @ once to remove heat), and it looks more bad ass looking imo. :-D

    I dont have a window either, so no need for looking in. Maybe soon I'll mod the side pannel and change tubing, but I really doubt I'll go smaller.
     
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    more water or not isnt affecting the cooling performance^^
    it doesnt matter
     
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    Differences are minimal in tubing lenth,

    IMO, you should have gone for a Swiftech Storm waterblock, the pump is good (very good), but I would have taken a 18W Laing DDC w/Alphacool top.

    I would use a T-line instead of a reservoir.
     
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    I was actually thinking of getting the dangerden fillports, and mounting them ontop of the case, leading to a T-line. :)

    $50 TDX vs the $80 storm wasnt in my budget.

    and what am I going to do. I already ordered the 1/2", and I'm not going to throw it out to buy 3/8".. I like 1/2" anyway :)

    What are the benefits of 3/8" over 1/2"? I dont see a difference other than size. :p


    ***I forgot to mention in the first post that $300 was my budget, and I almost matched it perfectly.
     
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    why didnt you just get it all off dangerden.com? or maybe a swiftech kit? basicly the same stuff for cheaper
     
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    7/16" Tygon or Masterkleer (I think that's what its called) is used quite often, it is between 3/8" and 1/2", barely restricts flow when compared to 1/2", yet kinks much less easily...

    If you got your blocks with perfect seal 1/2" fittings, then you probably won't be able to fit anything but 1/2", but I'm not too sure about that... if you can get DD's high flow fittings, get those instead.
     
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    i have 1/8 in my case and i guess my water cooling is a good as yours
     
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    Tubing under 1/2" ID is a waste of time, money and effort. Those pretty little kits with 1/4" ID tubing are no better than air. Some of them are not even that good. W2hCYK, you made the right choice. Going smaller makes no sense in a no bones water loop.
     
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    you mean this tubes arent cooling well?

    [​IMG]
     
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    wait.. 1/8" is like.. pencil sized. or close, right? :p

    If i was to buy everything on DD.com, I'd go over my budget by $20. If I bought a swiftech kit, it would be too expensive to compare to what I bought, with what I need in it.

    after looking @ those 2 things, i think I did very well with sticking under budget. :)
     
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    yeah probably you are right
    but its just the fact that bigger isnt better and in my eyes big tubing is just ugly

    but have fun while ocing youre conroe :D
     
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    You can only take advantage of big inner diameter tubing if you have a high flow pump. Like the Swiftech MCP655, which W2hCYK is getting, so i'd recommend not going below 1/4" minimum.
     
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    larger ID tubing allows for higher flow rate which directly affects cooling capacity.
     
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    I'd rather performance than looks. Im getting a conroe, and when you get a conroe, its all about performance!!! w00t! :)

    Everything should be here tomorrow, but I'll still be short a motherboard.

    idk if I should get a P5W DH Deluxe, or a P5WDG2-WS Pro. $50 difference. Not sure what is better though.
     
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    decided on the P5WDG2-WS. I think its a good choice. :)

    tomorrow! cant wait! should be fun setting it up and drilling holes in my case! w00t! :-D

    gives me an excuse to bring up the air compressor and blow out all the crappy dust in the case. :)
     
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    yeah look at this:
    http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/380

    for me it looks like OMG who put that snake in that case

    no matter i like the case but the tube is just too big and a bit ugly


    to cpu coolers:

    there are different types of cpu coolers
    1: you have a heavy cooper block and the water is flooding around it. in this case more water= same performance, faster water=same performance, a eheim 1046 is perfect for this
    2:you have a cooper base and a very flat cooler, you have about 1 milimeter-3milimeter
    between cooler base and plate, so here the water gets very fast by itselfs so you need a good pump there but small tubing is okay, a eheim 1048 is perfect
    3:you have a block where some crosses or something like this:http://xoxide.com/danger-den-tdx-775.html

    look at the rills drilled in it. on this cooler you need a good flow of water, but no matter what
    1/2 tubing is just for your e-penis :D (shouldnt hurt you) and brings you not up with better performance, so for this cooler i would say a laing would be good



    all this cooler depend on the way cooper takes heat and can give it to the water i dont know the numbers for this exactly, but some waterflow for this is barely enough


    but all in all a nice watercooling system
     
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