Kaby Lake Es bios ?

[alucasa]

In general, ES chips run off spec. The most noticeable deficiencies are unstable turbo clocks and malfunctioning Intel-VT. The latter doesn't concern a lot of end users though.

Most of ES will run fine on any 3rd party mobo with exception of the OEM branded motherboards (Dell, HP, and the likes).

The old myth of ES OCing better is long gone though. I have my own share of ES chips.

 

[Dvorski]

In general, ES chips run off spec. The most noticeable deficiencies are unstable turbo clocks and malfunctioning Intel-VT. The latter doesn't concern a lot of end users though.

Most of ES will run fine on any 3rd party mobo with exception of the OEM branded motherboards (Dell, HP, and the likes).

The old myth of ES OCing better is long gone though. I have my own share of ES chips.

Which gen do u use?

 

[eidairaman1]

In general, ES chips run off spec. The most noticeable deficiencies are unstable turbo clocks and malfunctioning Intel-VT. The latter doesn't concern a lot of end users though.

Most of ES will run fine on any 3rd party mobo with exception of the OEM branded motherboards (Dell, HP, and the likes).

The old myth of ES OCing better is long gone though. I have my own share of ES chips.

Might aswell have Xeons at that point

 

[cadaveca]

Yeah like that one, did it work on a regular z270 mb? And ik it's not safe and it could be broken but the site that's selling them has a one month warranty and a full refund if it's broken or not working and it's like 30% of the price here In Croatia so I can't pass if I know they will work on a normal mb

As alucasa said above, for me, these ES CPUs work perfectly fine in retail Z270 motherboards, for sure. They do not work in OEM PC motherboards sometimes, since the BIOS on those boards are generally limited to specific CPUs. But for boards that you buy alone, from ASUS, MSI, ASRock, etc, no problems.

Yet, Most of my ES CPUs have lost stability in a short period of time; even my 7700K in use in Z270 for motherboard and memory reviews is now starting to have some weird issues on one core specifically, at voltages that most would consider "safe". I'm not even running high clocks...

I am very gentle on my CPUs. I do not use excessive voltages ever; since I use these CPUs to do reviews they are nothing more than a delicate tool that helps me get my review job done, and should I need a replacement, getting one might be rather difficult, and that would make doing reviews difficult as well. For me, getting ES CPU before launch is easy, but after launch is quite hard, since the companies that supply me with these ES chips tend to get a limited number, and after a while they no longer have a CPU to send to me. If this chip dies, I'll have to buy a retail one, and like you, I cannot afford it.

 

[alucasa]

Which gen do u use?

I haven't used Skylake and Kabylake ESes.

Might aswell have Xeons at that point

Currently, that's the only place where I feel ES chips belong. There are some killer deals on Xeon ES chips. But they are server-oriented chips (Low clock, many number of cores, and low TDP).

You can find 8core/10core Xeon V3/V4 for like 100 ~ 150 USD.

 

[eidairaman1]

I haven't used Skylake and Kabylake ESes.




Currently, that's the only place where I feel ES chips belong. There are some killer deals on Xeon ES chips. But they are server-oriented chips (Low clock, many number of cores, and low TDP).

You can find 8core/10core Xeon V3/V4 for like 100 ~ 150 USD.

Considering people were taking 771 modesl and modding them to support 775 boards, they may have a low initial clock and ydp but they tend to be better binned than even Extreme parts, thats how opterons were then too.

 

[Dvorski]

okay so ur saying that if i get one i should keep it stock or low voltage? and which are the code names for the haswell ones if i may ask

 

[alucasa]

OP, you are overcomplicating things. ES chips are nothing special. Just use them as you would like normal chips.

 

[eidairaman1]

Its socket dependent, as Haswell desktop was 1150, Sky/Kaby Desk are 1151.

Intels HEDT were 2011, 2011-3.

Look if you're so worried just buy a PIB and call it a day.

 

[Dvorski]

OP, you are overcomplicating things. ES chips are nothing special. Just use them as you would like normal chips.

sorry but i dont wana invest into something just to find out it doesnt work =/

 

[alucasa]

They work. Otherwise, the sellers wouldn't be selling them (Check their feedback history tho). I've never had an ES chip not work and I've tried over 10 of them in my life so far.

They are cheaper for reasons. Their specs are off and CPU features might not work.

 

[eidairaman1]

Use discernment where ever you purchase from.

 

[Cvrk]

Yet, Most of my ES CPUs have lost stability in a short period of time; even my 7700K in use in Z270 for motherboard

I am very gentle on my CPUs. I do not use excessive voltages ever;

Do you think a normal retail 7700k will have same instability problems ?
Is taking the 7700k from 4,2Ghz to 4,4 worth any significant difference ? And if not what would be the point that you will actually consider significant ?

I do intend to get a 7700k. So why get one if your not gonna OC (i ask myself). And why OC if your not gonna hit the point where it actually matters.