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KabyLake (and Skylake) runing on Z370 mobo

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Core i7-7700K (KabyLake) on Z370 mobo CPU-Z:love:
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ASUS / MSI / GIGABYTE / ASRock / Colorful Z370 mobo can support KabyLake and Skylake.
this picture from here.
 

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If it were english I'd understand it better. Guess I gotta wait for the bootleg translation.
 

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Why is that a surprise, someone from ASUS confirmed it officially that they could update Z270 to make CFL work on it, but Intel obviously banned it & so Z370 would be no different.
Anyway why would you want the older KBL for Z370 in the first place?
 

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I'd much rather see 8th gen CPU's running on Z170.....
And that M$ still offering windows updates to pre windows 10 OS's....

One can only dream...:ohwell:

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It doesn't really matter, it would've been interesting to see it work the other way...Z270's to work with Coffee Lake
 

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The processor is also an ES so that might have something to do with it working since it might have different microcode.
 
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I don't see how this is a big deal. When you know what they really changed in the socket, this isn't a surprise at all. It also isn't really important, because no one really wants to put an older processor in Z370, especially when Z370 doesn't really offer anything over Z270.

Coffee Lake on Z270/Z170 is more impressive, but also dangerous.
 
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It was already stated by Intel they were backwards compatible, but it would not be workable..............As above why would you do it?
 
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It also isn't really important, because no one really wants to put an older processor in Z370, especially when Z370 doesn't really offer anything over Z270.
It supports 8th gen, and that's enough. Being able to upgrade from a cheap celeron/pentium to a 6core would be a real thing for many.

The processor is also an ES so that might have something to do with it working since it might have different microcode.
CPU microcode gets injected depending on cpu's stepping. This particular ES has the same stepping as retail cpu.

Would reveal the identity of the leaker, with a unique serial number, assuming Gigabyte themselves didn't want want to leak it & this is of course legit.
That's the serial number of memory modules, not the motherboard.
I guess it's a general paranoia of censoring every possible serial number - same with HDD for example.

Funny thing is, GB & Asus motherboards already have sky/kaby microcode present in their UEFIs.
 
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Why don't you post something you know, not what everyone else is posting?
 
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So congrats on a pointless exercise, because why on earth would you buy a new board to pair it with an old CPU?

Its the same sentiment as people pissing on Intel for their socket iterations, even though less than 3% of the market would ever consider doing anything with it.

Why is that a surprise, someone from ASUS confirmed it officially that they could update Z270 to make CFL work on it, but Intel obviously banned it & so Z370 would be no different.
Anyway why would you want the older KBL for Z370 in the first place?

Right, and actual reviews confirmed that Z370 has a different pin layout, which makes total sense if you want to feed more cores.
 

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It supports 8th gen, and that's enough. Being able to upgrade from a cheap celeron/pentium to a 6core would be a real thing for many.

Sure that will be nice, and it will be possible with Coffee Lake once Intel releases the rest of the line-up. But they were forced to push up the launch to compete with AMD, so the stock on the lower dual-core processors isn't enough to launch them yet. Yeck, they are struggling to keep the high end processors in stock right now.

This is an odd time where you can't buy a cheap Z370 processor, but it will be a short time and not the norm. So you either wait to do a build if you have to buy one of the cheap processors, or you scrape enough money together to buy the $130 Coffee Lake processor that is on the market.

That's the serial number of memory modules, not the motherboard.
I guess it's a general paranoia of censoring every possible serial number - same with HDD for example.

But if the memory was provided to them by a motherboard manufacturer to do the testing, then that serial number could be used to ID the person leaking the screenshots.
 
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Right, and actual reviews confirmed that Z370 has a different pin layout, which makes total sense if you want to feed more cores.
And Asus confirmed they could make Z270 compatible with CFL, even with the higher/more stringent requirements to feed more cores.
bit-tech: Can you go into more technical detail about why the new CPUs are not backwards-compatible with Z270 motherboards?
Andrew: Actually, it depends on Intel’s decision.
bit-tech: So it’s not a physical limitation? Intel said it was to do with power delivery.
Andrew: Not really. It [the power delivery] makes a little bit of difference, but not much.
bit-tech: So what are they referring to – the 20 or so unused pins from before?
Andrew: Yes.
bit-tech: So if you wanted and Intel let you, you could make Z270 compatible?

Andrew: Yes, but you also require an upgrade from the ME [Management Engine] and a BIOS update. Intel somehow has locked the compatibility.
https://www.bit-tech.net/features/tech/motherboards/asus-interview-andrew-wu-rog-motherboard-pm/1/

So yes pissing on Intel is totally justified, doubly so if they make a Z390 to screw current CFL or KBL owners!
 

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And Asus confirmed they could make Z270 compatible with CFL, even with the higher/more stringent requirements to feed more cores.

Making it work and making it work reliably and safely are two different things.

If they made Coffee Lake work on Z170/270, and sockets started melting like back in the P55 days, it would be a worse PR disaster than if they just play is safe and limit the new processors to the new socket with the extra power pins.

And I know the next argument that will be made is "well at least they could have made the quad-core and lower Coffee Lake processors work on Z170/270". But that creates confusion, they tried that with Socket 775, and it didn't work out well. That isn't a mistake they want to make again.

And that is the thing, Intel has made the mistakes in the past already, and learned from them. They aren't making these decisions to simply screw people into buying new motherboards. They are making them based mistakes they've made in the past that they don't want to repeat.
 
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Making it work and making it work reliably and safely are two different things.

If they made Coffee Lake work on Z170/270, and sockets started melting like back in the P55 days, it would be a worse PR disaster than if they just play is safe and limit the new processors to the new socket with the extra power pins.

And I know the next argument that will be made is "well at least they could have made the quad-core and lower Coffee Lake processors work on Z170/270". But that creates confusion, they tried that with Socket 775, and it didn't work out well. That isn't a mistake they want to make again.

And that is the thing, Intel has made the mistakes in the past already, and learned from them. They aren't making these decisions to simply screw people into buying new motherboards. They are making them based mistakes they've made in the past that they don't want to repeat.
They could make it work on the high(er) end boards like ROG Maximus, Apex et al. But they're saving it for the much better z390 & the upcoming i9 octa cores.

Not all boards had to be CFL compatible & not everyone had to buy a z370 even for locked CFL chips, but obviously this is all on the motherboard makers.
 

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They could make it work on the high(er) end boards like ROG Maximus, Apex et al. But they're saving it for the much better z390 & the upcoming i9 octa cores.

Not all boards had to be CFL compatible & not everyone had to buy a z370 even for locked CFL chips, but obviously this is all on the motherboard makers.

Explain your reasoning why it would magically work on higher end boards.
 
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Explain your reasoning why it would magically work on higher end boards.
No I'm saying it need not work on lesser boards. There's also no good reason for forcing the buyer, someone who picks an i5 8400, to get a z370 even for a locked processor.
 

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No I'm saying it need not work on lesser boards. There's also no good reason for forcing the buyer, someone who picks an i5 8400, to get a z370 even for a locked processor.

No, you said they could make it(meaning coffee lake on z170/270) work on higher end boards, like the ROG Maximus. I'm asking how you believe that just because the z170/270 motherboard is a higher end board it would be possible to make coffee lake work reliably and safely. Explain that to me. Why does the z170/270 board being higher end make it able to safely run a 6-core coffee lake processor.
 
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