Kubuntu installation headaches

zekrahminator · Feb 10, 2007

Okay, so I decided Windows XP had been giving me enough crap for too long, and shoved Kubuntu on there as a secondary OS. It's pretty, it's easy to use, and it only took minor configuration. I was happy. And then, I decided I wanted things like Firefox/Gaim/Flash Player. Now, I know the story about compiling in linux (or at least FreeBSD). You download source code, and you "make install". However, I try running "make install clean" in a "Konsole", and I get nothing. It can't even find the command. I try to run "install" and it gives me all sorts of various errors. Meh, I can't figure this out...how do you compile in Kubuntu?

zekrahminator · Feb 10, 2007

Argh, I should have RTFM, I don't have a compiler installed at the moment :roll:

zekrahminator · Feb 10, 2007

Forget it, Kubutnu + wireless internet = bad. I don't know how to compile in Kubuntu, it won't let me fix it according to their own handbook, I have to restart wireless internet every time I log on manually, basically I'm screwed. If you guys ever wonder why you paid so much for Windows, try a Linux distro.

gamer210 · Feb 10, 2007

you might want to try using ubuntu or xubuntu. I've always had problems with kubuntu. I don't know why, but that's just it works for me.

zekrahminator · Feb 10, 2007

I'll wait until my headache goes away, then I'll think about it...Fedora Core 5 looks good if I ever bother to buy some blank DVD's

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BXtreme · Feb 10, 2007

zekrahminator said:
I'll wait until my headache goes away, then I'll think about it...Fedora Core 5 looks good if I ever bother to buy some blank DVD's .

federa core 6 is here btw

zekrahminator · Feb 10, 2007

Errrr yeah that's what I meant

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Wile E · Feb 10, 2007

I ran Kubuntu up until about a month ago. It doesn't have a true root, so compiling can be a pain if you're not careful, not to mention getting full 3d acceleration to work with an ATI card can be a real PITA. I would suggest one of the other flavors of Linux if you're more than just a beginner and want to install things other than what's in their repository. I've been considering Fedora myself. .rpm's can make life so much easier. lol

Solaris17 · Feb 13, 2007

suse 10.1 FTW worked on my wireless great

PVTCaboose1337 · Feb 14, 2007

Solaris17 said:
suse 10.1 FTW worked on my wireless great

Same. But Kubuntu is fine. It works fine. The desktop enviorment on both are the same (if you see suse to kde) KDE enviorment is just a little bad. GNOME ftw.

gamer210 · Feb 14, 2007

If your going to use fedora, I would stick with core 5. I've had lots of issues with core 6 regarding Gnome, but YMMV.

Wile E · Feb 14, 2007

PVTCaboose1337 said:
Same. But Kubuntu is fine. It works fine. The desktop enviorment on both are the same (if you see suse to kde) KDE enviorment is just a little bad. GNOME ftw.

What makes you say KDE is bad? It's not any worse than Gnome at all, plus it just plain looks better, imo.

zekrahminator · Feb 14, 2007

Methinks it's just an opinion thing, both are beautiful (I like Gnome a bit better though...could just be the FreeBSD version I used with games built in).

Wile E · Feb 14, 2007

zekrahminator said:
Methinks it's just an opinion thing, both are beautiful (I like Gnome a bit better though...could just be the FreeBSD version I used with games built in).

I use both Macs and Linux, you think I would get along with FreeBSD? How much like linux is it?

PVTCaboose1337 · Feb 14, 2007

Wile E said:
What makes you say KDE is bad? It's not any worse than Gnome at all, plus it just plain looks better, imo.

KDE has a flawed enviorment at time. I like how it looks, but it reminds me of windoze. The GNOME enviorment is more refined.

zekrahminator · Feb 14, 2007

Wile E said:
I use both Macs and Linux, you think I would get along with FreeBSD? How much like linux is it?

FreeBSD is wonderful, just make sure you are installing it using a box with a wired connection

(and good luck getting flashplayer to work).

Wile E · Feb 15, 2007

PVTCaboose1337 said:
KDE has a flawed enviorment at time. I like how it looks, but it reminds me of windoze. The GNOME enviorment is more refined.

Like Zerk said, I guess it's just down to personal preference. I've never had an issue with KDE(or Gnome, for that matter). And, if by refined, you mean plain, then I agree.

j/k

DIBL · Feb 15, 2007

Boy, as a Kubuntu user for 3 or 4 months now, I'm seeing some serious confusion here. Maybe I can help a little.

1. No need for compiling anything listed, Zek, as far as I know. You just install it as "packages" from the "repos", aka repositories. Here's the Kubuntu forum link -- lots of people asking questions and getting help with stuff like ATI cards and wireless connections:

http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php

2. KDE vs Gnome vs Xubuntu -- it's all the same, underneath. It's Ubuntu. There are 2 released versions (6.06 and 6.10) available. The differences between Kubuntu (Ubuntu with KDE integrated) Gnome (native Ubuntu GUI) and Xubuntu are just the "desktop environments" -- there are no differences in the Linux guts of them. So if there's a problem with a piece of hardware, that problem will be the same regardless of the GUI.

3. Doesn't have a true root? I'm not sure what is meant by "true root" -- Ubuntu uses something called a Super User, and lets you (the PC owner/operator/installer) use the same password for Super User as for your own user account IF YOU WANT TO SET IT UP THAT WAY. But "./" is there in the system, and can be just as tightly password restricted as any other *nix OS, as far as I know.

4. ATI card issues -- yep, they're fairly challenging. But I was a total noob 4 months ago (and no CS degree around here!) and I was able to set up Kubuntu 6.06 on my Radeon -- it was quite a learning experience, to be sure. When I built my new system I bought an Nividia card, which is easier to deal with.

5. (K)Ubuntu vs. BSD vs. SUSE vs. Fedora -- hey, they're all fine as far as I know. It's just a matter of picking one and learning to work with it.

I hope this is at least 95% true, and clears up some of the factual concerns.

Edit: p.s. -- Windows is "user friendly", but Linux is "expert friendly". That's more important to know than the fine points regarding differences between different Linux distributions.

Zedicus · Feb 15, 2007

ubuntu and ubuntu based distros rely on sudo... ive never been fond of that aproach.

ubuntu and ubuntu based distros break compatibility with debian, ive never been fond of that aproach.

ubuntu and ubuntu based distros HEAVILY mod gnome and KDE in ways i dont like, ive never been.... u get the drift...

personally i like debian pure, if u want something nice simple and awsome config tools try Elive linux at http://www.elivecd.org/ its based on an compatible with debian pure and has the best gui for linux ive came across...

wazzledoozle · Feb 15, 2007

It's funny how Ubuntu is supposed to be "Linux for humans" yet they cant collaborate enough to stick with one distro.

DIBL · Feb 16, 2007

Why would all humans want only a single distro???

gamer210 · Feb 16, 2007

Just use Slackware

PVTCaboose1337 · Feb 16, 2007

wazzledoozle said:
It's funny how Ubuntu is supposed to be "Linux for humans" yet they cant collaborate enough to stick with one distro.

Good point. Also guys, I'm not saying KDE is bad, but it is less refined than gnome. Gnome is more functional. KDE is for people used to windoze.

MrW · Feb 16, 2007

PVTCaboose1337 said:
Good point. Also guys, I'm not saying KDE is bad, but it is less refined than gnome. Gnome is more functional. KDE is for people used to windoze.

I agree. Every time someone new to linux uses my computers, they get confused by gnome but easily pick up on kde.

PVTCaboose1337 · Feb 16, 2007

Ya, KDE is for learning. GNOME is for veterans.

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