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Laptop Drive problem - help please

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#1
Short version:


I have a HP DV6304TX laptop. the primary sata port is dead, and no power goes to a hard drive in that slot.


the DVD drive works fine however, to launch an OS or bootable CD/DVD.


What i've done is acquired an adaptor to let me put a 2.5" HDD in the ODD bay and used a USB stick to install windows 7 - and it worked fine.

the problem is that the laptops BIOS refuses to see the hard drive as bootable in the DVD bay.


Now it DOES have an SD card slot, so if i can get the bootloader onto that, i can use that as the boot device and load the OS off this hard drive. does anyone know how to do that?
 
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#2
Howdy Mussels, long time no see. I see your avatar hasn't changed much :D

Could you use something like plop boot manager?

You might be able to get it to load from an SD card using plop boot instructions:
Download the current boot manager [64]plpbt-5.0.10.zip. Extract it to
get the floppy disk image plpbt.img.

DOS: You can use [65]diskimg.com with diskimg -d a -w plpbt.img

Windows: Write the disk image with the program [66]rawwritewin to the
floppy disk

Linux: dd if=plpbt.img of=/dev/fd0
Dunno if it'll work, but it is easy to try.

Personally I'd grab a soldering iron and get to fixing the primary drive connection. ;)
 

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#3
the primary port has no visible damage, so i cant fix it. its just that the damned BIOS wont see a hard drive in the DVD bay, while it shows the DVD drive itself fine. stupid limitations.


turns out the SD reader isnt bootable, but a regular USB stick is. so thats the plan for now.


will try your suggestions.
 

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Assuming you can later mount the HDD drive connected on the ODD slot, how about installing GRUB on the USB flash drive and set it to chain load the Windows install on the HDD?
that could work, i'm just new to alternate boot loaders. the one streetfigher linked to is umm... complicated. i'll see how grub goes.


edit: the links from that page dont seem to work, and they mention files from other sources without links or even naming them.
edit 2: theres ANOTHER link down lower, for windows users XD
edit 3: and that method requires you to boot into windows, which i cant do.
 
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that could work, i'm just new to alternate boot loaders. the one streetfigher linked to is umm... complicated. i'll see how grub goes.
It's not that bad, but I've never tried it with loading onto a USB or SD so I don't know if it will work.

Just follow the instructions here. In brief:
  1. Format USB drive as fat32
  2. Download zip
  3. Copy plpbt.bin to the FAT formatted drive.
  4. Run "plpmkboot" with the USB drive letter, ie:
    Code:
    plpmkboot F:

Let me know if it works :D
 

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#7
It's not that bad, but I've never tried it with loading onto a USB or SD so I don't know if it will work.

Just follow the instructions here. In brief:
  1. Format USB drive as fat32
  2. Download zip
  3. Copy plpbt.bin to the FAT formatted drive.
  4. Run "plpmkboot" with the USB drive letter, ie:
    Code:
    plpmkboot F:

Let me know if it works :D
step 4 is what throws me off. where/when do i run that? is there an exe or batch file i do that with?

edit: found the exe hiding in a folder. will figure it out.


edit 2: it loaded, but god is this a weird manager. half the time it sits on a blank screen with a blinking A, and a menu flashes up. so far no luck booting windows from it.

edit 3: well duh, i formatted the drive earlier and didnt install windows on it. no wonder it didnt load into windows XD doing that now.
 
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#8
It's not that bad, but I've never tried it with loading onto a USB or SD so I don't know if it will work.

Just follow the instructions here. In brief:
  1. Format USB drive as fat32
  2. Download zip
  3. Copy plpbt.bin to the FAT formatted drive.
  4. Run "plpmkboot" with the USB drive letter, ie:
    Code:
    plpmkboot F:

Let me know if it works :D
it worked! bahahaha. the USB shows as "HDA" while the drive is "HDB" so all i need to now is automate it loading from Hard Drive B.
 

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#9
bumping because i got around to repairing the CPU fan, and now this laptop works just fine ;)