Discussion in 'Linux / BSD / Mac OS X' started by LegacyOS, Apr 19, 2014.
Keep doing your thing Legacy, lots of supporters here too!
If you want to make those old machines fly, load OS/2 (or better yet ecomstation)...
...Seriously in a slightly more helpful comment (though I was only half kidding), gentoo builds rock.
I realize it's probably thankless work most of the time, but I'm appreciative that you've gone to the trouble...I used to be quite wealthy, but I'm now extremely poor and have had to resign myself to the use of older equipment. These simpler distros have been a Godsend for me.
People tend to be subjective, once again numbers tend to be objective, so I prefer them for thinks like measuring performance. It's like me going to the Ubuntu forum and asking the same question, you're likely to get more people who support Ubuntu and Debian-based distros who defend it. This isn't a matter of "how much someone likes it". That's not being disputed, there are clearly plenty of people who enjoy using it, but that isn't the question I've been asking. Is it *actually* faster? The one person who posted who had used Xubuntu used a much older version 6.06LTS (!!) and folks over at Ubuntu have made improvements on performance with almost every release. So once again, numbers with latest builds will sell me on that topic.
You also posted that post yesterday and got two responses, one of which was irrelevant to the question since he didn't even really answer your question.
All in all, I'm asking a question that requires an objective answer but I've only been getting subjective responses. That's my frustration. Thanks for at least replying though, I do appreciate it even if I come off as a bit of a dick.
I wish I had an old p2 rig I could install this on! Keep up the great work OP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To my surprise when reading the June copy of "Linux Format" today they've included the release of Legacy OS 2.1 LTS in their Magazine. Back in October 2012 they Included Legacy OS 4 Mini on their second Distro DVD.
Looks like they also think Legacy OS has a place in the world of computing.
Congratz LegacyOS with that article in the magazine ^^
How do you measure such performance anyway? The feel of things is very subjective.
I will probably try this on the netbook (Atom ftw), it's got slitaz now.
Legacy OS 2.1 LTS won't run on you netbook, sorry! Gve Legacy OS 4 Mini a try. Works on the EeePC 900A Model.
Grab it here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/legacyoslinux/files/Legacy-OS 4 Mini-iso/
lol, just the other day I opened a box i had and found some P2s and 3s
time to upgrade the old beige Compaq.
Not sure if....
Eh? Why wouldn't it? It's an N270, should be faster than a P3 running at 800Mhz.
considering P3 and ATOM are X86 parts, i see why not, less the atom is purely weak, but its bound to be a lil faster than a P3
The core system of Legacy dates back to before the introduction of the EeePC the first Netbook. With Legacy OS 2.1 LTS I updated a number of Applications like Opera 12 Web browser, Flashplayer, Codecs, Java to versions released after the Netbooks but the core remains back in 2006. So it's a bit like taking Windows XP SP1 and getting Windows Explorer from Windows 7 working on it. I can tell you Windows XP SP1 runs fast on a P3 running at 800Mhz. I know this because one of my daughters is using such a laptop. Through experience once you start updating XP to SP3 add antivirus software etc that same Laptop becomes unusable. This is why that Laptop will never be allowed to connect to the internet. OK using the same idea with Legacy's core in that we stay with an early Linux base from the P3 / P4 era and not update the system to newer versions developed with dual cores in mind but add newer applications were possible to make the old Legacy System usable for todays needs hence the name "Legacy OS" because it really is an old system and that's why it's not going to run properly on your Netbook. Legacy OS 2.1 LTS doesn't support the screen resolution of 1024x600 required by your netbook (Legacy OS 4 Mini does) Legacy OS 2.1 LTS won't support your Sound card. (Legacy OS 4 Mini should) Legacy OS 2.1 LTS won't support your WiFi card. (Legacy OS 4 Mini should). What makes Legacy OS 2.1 LTS fast on P3 / P4 computers is it believes it's still 2006 when these processors were in use. Check out this Youtube review from a happy user
Uploaded to the SourgeForge repo is Wine 22.214.171.124 which brings amazing possibilities for Legacy OS 2.1 LTS
Once install make sure you're connected to the internet as Wine will try to install Mono and Gecko for you.
Once installed you'll be able to install the Windows versions of Firefox 28 and Thunderbird 24.4
Based on your system specs and your own experience, how does this wine version of firefox28 behave ? (ram consumption wise, speed wise) ?
Also, what happens when you browse flash or java pages ?
Hello blobster21, It appears hit and miss on different Hardware. I think users will have different experiences depending on what their running. One Laptop I have is very usable with Firefox and Thunderbird installed. Flash plays, It is a P4 spec machine. Another P4 Firefox lags with Flashplayer crashing. Experimenting with other Windows Apps is hit and miss. Still to offer any extra usability for a user is worth something.
I used Windows for several years without any problems what so ever!!!
It is a bad joke. Right?
Yes it is a bad joke... why? Because I know nothing about linux and I had bad internet.
Once I got 15 mbps internet connection I got to download many linux distros and then I realized Linux --->1 Windows ---> 0.
Windows is bad ass.
Linux is simply awesome.
The only bad thing is Windows has more games more softwares.
Linux is free and every linux distro is one of a kind.
I used several linux distros and I am never an expert and could not tell which is best but felt that one linux distro is better than the other.
Recently I came to know about Puppy Linux and fell in love with it. The Puppy Linux website tells us all the advantages of puppy linux. I am using it on usb and I ordered a new external hard disk. Once I get my ext. hdd I will dump all data into it and install puppy linux on my desktop and laptop.
Today I came to know of this another amazing linux distro Legacy OS.
I like this legacy os guy already.
I've a mind disorder known as Schizophrenia and I hallucinate and dellude of being a creator of many things and these kinds of OSs are one such things.
Guess what this guy is for real and my false imaginations are real in an imaginary world.
Legacy OS guy "You are amazing" I wish I could know all about Legacy OS. What apps does it have. What games does it have. Can I run it on Pentium Dual core Desktop. Pentium Dual core 3rd gen laptop?
Should I try puppy linux or Legacy OS? Does Legacy OS run from RAM similar to puppy? Is this a puppy type os?
I don't know why some guys keep complaining instead of promoting this amazing Lagacy OS. I guess they feel as if they are experts.
I fell in love with Lagacy OS by simply reading these forum posts. Please let me know if Legacy OS is any better than Puppy Linux.
In one way Legacy OS is better than Puppy. Preinstalled apps and games.
I know there are 200 games in 2013 legacy edition. What about 2014 edition? Any games preinstalled?
Please describe Legacy OS as they (Puppy Linux) did on their website.
What are the goals of Legacy OS and what did it accomplish? One thing is clear it is tailor made for older hardware and no need to worry about internet while installing the os.
My only question to Legacy OS guy:::: Should I use Puppy slacko 5.7 latest or Legacy OS latest? Thanks a lot to my new linux hero friend "The Legacy OS" GUY. The real guy, not some imaginary guy in my head.
Can you please make a review on Legacy OS 2014 LTS? How many apps does it have? What apps? How many games does it have? What games? Youtube video.
if you _need_ to run stripped down os then your machine just needs to go in the trash
sorry but this is reality there comes a point in everything where its quiet simply not worth it anymore pentium III fall into this cat
don't use this disto I won't / should not need to explain why but no self respecting user should be caught dead with this on his box even if it is a pentium 3
What about puppy linux?
avoid puppy puppy is a dead project its been dead for years grab the latest Debian package or linuxmint-mate/xfce both will run fine in pentium era hardware old kernel is old old kernel is broken old broken kernel is SLOW
What @OneMoar is trying to say is just use a decent modern distro that can run on older hardware. Running old software for old hardware is ludicrous when modern distros can run, in many cases, just fine. Maybe not with all the bells an whistles, but to expect that would be ludicrous as well.
I run debain jessy on a celeron M 1.6Ghz with 512mb of ram and intel 915 video for those that don't know 915m is as bout as terrible as you can get with intel video of that era
a newer kernel mainly from 3.0 up has lots of performance fixes for eldery intel video that 2.6 does not have to say nothing of the various xorg patches and mesa driver patchs that improve performance by something to the order of 20%
the system cold boots to linux in about 30 seconds and I have hardware acceleration for flash and can watch a 480p highbitrate mkv without issue try that with puppy based distos
and yes if I wanted I could zip over to http://dengine.net/build1212 install the lastest doomsday engine and play doom on it
I have Debian running on my gateway/nas/server all-in-one box. It uses 100MB of memory on boot which includes a mdadm RAID-5, bind, dhcp, iptables, and samba. I also have Debian in a VM on my tower that I use with VMWare Workstation's Unity with Fallback Gnome 3.4.2 for development because putty is a poor excuse for a terminal, which also barely uses 200MB of memory when it's booted and I'm using it. So all in all, Debian is lean enough to run on older hardware and it has a much more up to date and rich package repo than many other distros. I don't see what there is to complain about.
sorry, still meaning to test this out and give report, ill do it soon. i have friends who would like this if it works....
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